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[Sir_Rancelot]

It's still a very common belief there that the more pain and suffering is caused to an animal, the better it tastes. That's why the tiny cages, tormenting, slow killing etc. - everything they do 'makes sense' (I use the term advisedly) once you understand that's the thought process behind it.

In more rural areas skewering and blow torching a still live dog in the streets is like a marketing exercise - 'hey, check out all the suffering, gonna taste amazing!'

I always wondered that if this was proven to actually be true, would it change the way people in the West eat? Foie gras would suggest that a certain group of people would happily pay a premium for extra flavour from suffering.

The difference is if any of us skew or blow torch a animal in Australia we will most likely be charged by the police.

 

[roacheee]

The difference is if any of us skew or blow torch a animal in Australia we will most likely be charged by the police.

Spot on.

Now the rest of the world should demand this sort of animal cruelty and the wet markets etc need to be banned, for all our sakes and mostly for the animals

 

[6ixesAND7evens]

It's still a very common belief there that the more pain and suffering is caused to an animal, the better it tastes. That's why the tiny cages, tormenting, slow killing etc. - everything they do 'makes sense' (I use the term advisedly) once you understand that's the thought process behind it.

In more rural areas skewering and blow torching a still live dog in the streets is like a marketing exercise - 'hey, check out all the suffering, gonna taste amazing!'

I always wondered that if this was proven to actually be true, would it change the way people in the West eat? Foie gras would suggest that a certain group of people would happily pay a premium for extra flavour from suffering.

my mates old man was a butcher and when choosing the cattle he would pick the calmest, that it made for better meat. Surely if they’re skewering an animal and blow torching it it’s stress levels would be through the roof and therefore the meat wouldn’t be as good.

 

[Dusty0004]

my mates old man was a butcher and when choosing the cattle he would pick the calmest, that it made for better meat. Surely if they’re skewering an animal and blow torching it it’s stress levels would be through the roof and therefore the meat wouldn’t be as good.

I for one definitely do not want to know the difference between quality dog meat and not

 

[RFCGloryJC]

Local Chinese officials took bribes, turned a blind eye to toxic market.
Best and most expensive beef in the world is Japanese marbled wagyu.
They are raised in open paddocks, hand fed apples, have massages.
Impossible to claim stressed animals are better.

 

[6ixesAND7evens]

I for one definitely do not want to know the difference between quality dog meat and not

nah I don’t care to know that either, but from what was said their “logic” is that the more pain the animal is in the better it tastes, doesn’t add up. The whole situation is ****ed tho and I don’t think much “logic” is used in these markets

 

[SumTingWong]

The WHO are to blame as well. They declared on Jan 14 that according to Chinese officials there was no evidence of human to human transmission. Absolutely ****ing clueless and corrupt organisation. Next time someone tells me a denier or nuts for doubting/questioning the "experts" they can go and get ****ed!!

 

[JackNah_8]

I thought places could still work though ?

I have to work from home, not looking forward to it

 

[JackNah_8]

Harvey Weinstein poz.

Is that his excuse to escape jail??

 

[Nostradumbass]

nah I don’t care to know that either, but from what was said their “logic” is that the more pain the animal is in the better it tastes, doesn’t add up. The whole situation is f’ed tho and I don’t think much “logic” is used in these markets

They're disgusting people. ****ing scum.

 

[Dusty0004]

Anyone know a good Moonshine recipe

 

[SumTingWong]

Reported in the The guardian, South China Post that the Chinese government records show that it's first case was on November 17

The WHO and CDC offered help to China but it was refused.

The WHO knowing these things, then condemned the initial travel bans on China publicly claiming that they were not needed to beat the China virus (reported by Reuters).

The WHO members should face capital punishment for their action during this crisis.

 

[SumTingWong]

As reported in the New York Post:

China officials knew of coronavirus in December, ordered cover-up, report says
By Sara Dorn
February 29, 2020 | 3:45pm | Updated









Chinese scientists knew about the coronavirus and its deadly effects as early as December — but were ordered by government officials to suppress the evidence, according to a report.
In late December, several genomics companies tested samples from sick patients in Wuhan — the center of the coronavirus outbreak — and noticed alarming similarities between their illnesses and the 2002 SARS virus, the Sunday Times of London reported, citing Chinese business news site Caixin Global.
The researchers alerted Beijing of their findings — and on Jan. 3, received a gag order from China’s National Health Commission, with instructions to destroy the samples.
Rather than hunkering down to contain the virus, Wuhan officials went ahead with their annual potluck dinner for 40,000 families.
The alleged cover-up continued when representatives from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Jan. 8 visited Wuhan, where officials intentionally withheld information that hospital workers had been infected by patients — a telltale sign of contagion.
News of the virus’ highly contagious nature didn’t surface publicly until Jan. 20. Wuhan was locked down and a mass quarantine ordered three days later.

 

[Rayzorwire]

The difference is if any of us skew or blow torch a animal in Australia we will most likely be charged by the police.

Yep, thankfully.

my mates old man was a butcher and when choosing the cattle he would pick the calmest, that it made for better meat. Surely if they’re skewering an animal and blow torching it it’s stress levels would be through the roof and therefore the meat wouldn’t be as good.

That's always been my understanding of butchering too, but I suppose we're talking about flavour - not potential toughness of meat. If it's being spit roasted with all organs still inside maybe toughness isn't an issue? Gruesome topic.

When my mate who does a lot of traveling through China (his wife has family there and they work in both countries) told me how common it was in the areas he traveled through and we discussed it a bit, I started to think that surely there's gotta be some truth in it...can so many millions of people delude themselves over thousands of years to that extent?

He's almost entirely a vego (and was not about to eat street dog to test the theory!) so it's not like he could say either way. FWIW, his wife's older family members certainly believed that it does improve flavour, but they didn't endorse the practice.

 

[Punt rd end]

Big lines outside Centrelink, whoda thought

 

[6ixesAND7evens]

Yep, thankfully.




That's always been my understanding of butchering too, but I suppose we're talking about flavour - not potential toughness of meat. If it's being spit roasted with all organs still inside maybe toughness isn't an issue? Gruesome topic.

When my mate who does a lot of traveling through China (his wife has family there and they work in both countries) told me how common it was in the areas he traveled through and we discussed it a bit, I started to think that surely there's gotta be some truth in it...can so many millions of people delude themselves over thousands of years to that extent?

He's almost entirely a vego (and was not about to eat street dog to test the theory!) so it's not like he could say either way. FWIW, his wife's older family members certainly believed that it does improve flavour, but they didn't endorse the practice.

Ahh yep sorry you were talking flavour not tenderness of the meat. Like your mate I wouldn’t be interested in finding out if the flavour is “better”. Also I’m quite happy with cooked chicken/beef and their flavours and aren’t interested in one being skewered alive in front of me and blow torched to find out if it improves the flavour. I typically feel “each to their own” on most subjects but I have a lot of trouble with the cruelty side to the practise here.