Recommitted Tim English [signs 5 year deal]

[adogsfan5]

Yeah he's quite good at directing a hitout to his teams advantage...when he wins one. The problem is he doesn't win that many given how many ruck contests he attends

His hit out win percentage is below (and only including actual rucks) Darcy, Cox, O'Brien, Witts, Sweet, Nankervis, Gawn, Goldstein, Grundy, Soldo, Meek , Xerri, Moyle, Visentini, McInerney, Cameron and Reeves

I'm not doubting he's a good player, his ideal role would be tall fwd/backup ruck imo. But he's not the sort you pay up big dollars for imo and I reckon more and more are realising it

He’s not worth anything above a mil, I agree with you there for sure. I’d be disappointed if our offer is above that.

 

[cecil]

He kicks most of his goals while in the ruck. Other than a short period at the start of 2021 he's been unconvincing as a forward

 

[Vindicater]

Still think he leaves, but boy has his paycheck been hit.

 

[Doggy]

Still think he leaves, but boy has his paycheck been hit.

You're going against the grain with that call

 

[Vindicater]

You're going against the grain with that call

 

[PurpJuice]

Still think he leaves, but boy has his paycheck been hit.

As a dogs supporter who is indifferent if we can get a low first round pick for him, I would be very, very surprised if he leaves.

 

[kane249]

 

[rye]

he has a decent hitout to advantage % when he does win the hitout

think dogs need him more than their supporters would like to admit. does a bit of work letting them play effectively only 2 key defenders a lot of the time as english will drop back to intercept... almost like stanley for geelong in 2022. his value for other teams would be comparatively less.

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Cameron is 31 and can play forward. Gawn is the same age and have been trying to rest him forward when possible. Grundy couldn't rotate with Gawn because Grundy was poor in the forward line while Gawn was rucking. He had to be rotated on the bench and that made things difficult for the Dees.

I think Draper has still more to give but he's been put out because Scott is playing favorites with Goldy atm and Wright is playing that fwd/ruck role. Draper can improve with goldy rucking like English did when Martin was bought in. Dons don't need to sell the farm for English. They just need to develop Draper.

As for Forcing a trade. It would be better if dons traded out players like Parish, Bryan &/or Draper to other clubs then on trade their picks for a good first round and maybe Baldwin if Reid is untouchable.

Darcy Cameron is 28.

 

[The Nostradamus]

thought something would’ve got done during their bye this week

But radio silence so far

 

[Foxman98]

thought something would’ve got done during their bye this week

But radio silence so far

The issue here is more on his end then ours,

He has been fairly average at best this year hence our offer isn't what he wants however all his other offers have dried up as well

 

[cakewalk06]

It’s unfortunate for English but I reckon clubs won’t want to offer him a long term deal given his concussion history. There is not enough clarity around salary cap implications for career ending concussions. I hope he plays out his career without issue but any sort of doubts make it a tricky trade.

 

[bzparkes]

Eagles have no interest, according to the HUN article today. No other clubs poking around either, apparently.

 

[kaiserchief13]

Eagles have no interest, according to the HUN article today. No other clubs poking around either, apparently.

Make it make sense. He's far superior ruck to any on Eagles list and he's a FA

 

[RWnBluey]

Make it make sense. He's far superior ruck to any on Eagles list and he's a FA

He’s actually a bog average ruckman. Soft in the contest. It’s his work around the ground that sets him apart. Like an extra tall midfielder that can drift forward or back.

 

[Bald]

I don't really understand why other clubs aren't keen.

Tom De Koning

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Tom De Koning

Age

25

Ht

201cm

Wt

102kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

2star

HO

1.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

5.0

4star

CL

0.5

3star

HO

1.5

5star

is having a terrific year, but statistically this is how he compares to Tim English this season.

 

[bzparkes]

Make it make sense. He's far superior ruck to any on Eagles list and he's a FA

He really isn't.

 

[bzparkes]

I don't really understand why other clubs aren't keen.

Tom De Koning is having a terrific year, but statistically this is how he compares to Tim English this season.

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Might be his concussion history? He also wants $1mil per year for 6 years

Apparently Dogs have a 5 year contract in front of him.

 

[mattwa]

He really isn't.

Are you serious? Your ruck division is terrible. Please don't tell me Matt Flynn is better. Then you've got Bailey Williams who is also not very good and more suited as a forward/2nd ruck.

English would be in your top 5 players if he came to west coast

 

[bzparkes]

Are you serious? Your ruck division is terrible. Please don't tell me Matt Flynn is better. Then you've got Bailey Williams who is also not very good and more suited as a forward/2nd ruck.

English would be in your top 5 players if he came to west coast

He doesn't really solve the hitout and ruck contest issue.

Plus we have too many talls on the list as it is.

 

[mattwa]

He doesn't really solve the hitout and ruck contest issue.

Plus we have too many talls on the list as it is.

Hes miles ahead of all your talls. You delist the deadwood and upgrade..

 

[bzparkes]

Hes miles ahead of all your talls. You delist the deadwood and upgrade..

Not really. He's good around the ground but he's not that much chop in the actual ruck.

Don't really want the club chasing a ruckman that gets bullied at stoppages and pays him over $1mil per year for the privilege.

 

[Bald]

Might be his concussion history? He also wants $1mil per year for 6 years

Apparently Dogs have a 5 year contract in front of him.

Yeah potentially. I reckon clubs would be lining up to pay De Koning one mill per season so I assume it is the concussion concerns.

 

[kaiserchief13]

He’s actually a bog average ruckman. Soft in the contest. It’s his work around the ground that sets him apart. Like an extra tall midfielder that can drift forward or back.

Not ideal, but he's better than what WC currently have and they have the cap space so why not use it? Unless they are locked in on using the cap space on the likes of Warner and Baker, where else is it going to be spent?

 

[BlueJet]

I don't really understand why other clubs aren't keen.

Tom De Koning is having a terrific year, but statistically this is how he compares to Tim English this season.

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TDK's game has gone up a notch or two over the past handful of games - season averages probably don't align with what people are now talking up.