Tippett's Gone - READ RULES BEFORE POSTING

[Cap]

I guess the best way for you deal with it, is to hope that they have actually learned from it.

I know in my Industry, people who have cocked up big time more than often are accepted back in similar roles becaue, we you don't make the same mistake twice.

 

[The Karma Bus]

You know what. I don't care.

The club were wrong and no one will convince me otherwise.

I worry about things and people at the club - no players, coaches or administrators at different clubs.

You can't seem to understand, they were ALL wrong..
You are always so shit scared that if people say Tippett or his manager were partly to blame, the club gets away with it and no one will be mad at them..

They all have an obligation to know the rules and follow them.. You're in dreamland.. His manager had an obligation to get the best deal for his client you say? Wtf? No, his manager has an obligation to follow the rules while getting the best deal possible for him.. And Tippett has an obligation to make sure it was all ok, not signing stat dec's that there is no other contract or agreements..
Hence the little thing that was Tippett being suspended also..

 

[Sanders]

You know what. I don't care.

The club were wrong and no one will convince me otherwise.

I worry about things and people at the club - no players, coaches or administrators at different clubs.

And this is why you are who you are

No one ever said the club wasn't wrong, its your inability to follow a basic line of logic that disputes this

The club was wrong, no one disputes that. The Tippett's were also wrong.

What many fans care about is one particular bit of that, how Tippett behaved in his exit.

You can keep arguing in monochromatic tones, but someone arguing he's a bit of tosser is not saying the club is right

Ps you are short aren't you?

 

[Cap]

You can't seem to understand, they were ALL wrong..
You are always so shit scared that if people say Tippett or his manager were partly to blame, the club gets away with it and no one will be mad at them..

They all have an obligation to know the rules and follow them.. You're in dreamland.. His manager had an obligation to get the best deal for his client you say? Wtf? No, his manager has an obligation to follow the rules while getting the best deal possible for him.. And Tippett has an obligation to make sure it was all ok, not signing stat dec's that there is no other contract or agreements..
Hence the little thing that was Tippett being suspended also..

Didn't the AFL make a point about Tippetts behavior? or did I dream that up?

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

You can't seem to understand, they were ALL wrong..
You are always so shit scared that if people say Tippett or his manager were partly to blame, the club gets away with it and no one will be mad at them..

Fine - he was partly to blame but how does that change anything?

How does that make the club open its eyes abd demand significant changes are made?

By saying Tippett is partly to blame, allows the club to say - ok, we only actually need to change these areas (X, Y & Z) instead of changing everything from (A to Z).

They all have an obligation to know the rules and follow them.. You're in dreamland.. His manager had an obligation to get the best deal for his client you say? Wtf? No, his manager has an obligation to follow the rules while getting the best deal possible for him.. And Tippett has an obligation to make sure it was all ok, not signing stat dec's that there is no other contract or agreements..
Hence the little thing that was Tippett being suspended also..

As a school teacher, I take 100% responsibility to everything that happened with the students.

I can not lay any blame on the parents as it's my duty of care to understand the process and procedure required during the day.

The buck stops with me. I can not turn around and say, you are 50% to blame so that removes my responsibility.

The buck had to stop with the club, they have to step up and look after the best interest of the club, for their members.

Blame Tippett all you like but that won't help the Crows any. Not anymore. It won't make us better or improve our processes or procedures.

I'm choosing not to as that ship has sailed and want the best for the club in the now and future. Not the past.

 

[Sanders]

Fine - he was partly to blame but how does that change anything?

Its not either / or

His being a being a tosser isn't meant to change anything

How does that make the club open its eyes abd demand significant changes are made?

It doesn't and it doesn't have too

What we did is our shit to clean up, being pissed at Skirt is separate again

By saying Tippett is partly to blame, allows the club to say - ok, we only actually need to change these areas (X, Y & Z) instead of changing everything from (A to Z).

Of course it doesn't. Relying on him not to be dumb as buggery, doesn't change what we did wrong. He sure didn't help himself or us though

As a school teacher, I take 100% responsibility to everything that happened with the students.

I can not lay any blame on the parents as it's my duty of care to understand the process and procedure required during the day.

The buck stops with me. I can not turn around and say, you are 50% to blame so that removes my responsibility.

Presumably that doesn't include their grades?

Teacher are not exactly the high water mark in the community when it comes to accountability

The buck had to stop with the club, they have to step up and look after the best interest of the club, for their members.

And it does. What part of that don't you understand.

Blame Tippett all you like but that won't help the Crows any. Not anymore. It won't make us better or improve our processes or procedures.

For the millionth time, irrelevant.

I'm choosing not to as that ship has sailed and want the best for the club in the now and future. Not the past.

Nothing to do with the player and his exit

 

[Sanders]

Didn't the AFL make a point about Tippetts behavior? or did I dream that up?

No, we all had the same dream

 

[alex_is_on_fire]

Its not either / or

His being a being a tosser isn't meant to change anything



It doesn't and it doesn't have too

What we did is our shit to clean up, being pissed at Skirt is separate again



Of course it doesn't. Relying on him not to be dumb as buggery, doesn't change what we did wrong. He sure didn't help himself or us though



Presumably that doesn't include their grades?

Teacher are not exactly the high water mark in the community when it comes to accountability



And it does. What part of that don't you understand.



For the millionth time, irrelevant.



Nothing to do with the player and his exit

Fine - I give up with you.

You win. Not arguing with you anymore.

BTW - what do you do, other than sell fast food. Then I can extract the urine out your job by saying you have no accountability and socially irresponsible.

 

[jackster83]

I'm more upset with Tippett entering into an illegal agreement in the first place than him leaving the club.

Must be a massive FIGJAM to want to go behind your team mates backs and sign on to something that they know nothing about or can't get access to themselves. As a team mate that would hurt.

 

[The Karma Bus]

Fine - he was partly to blame but how does that change anything?

How does that make the club open its eyes abd demand significant changes are made?

By saying Tippett is partly to blame, allows the club to say - ok, we only actually need to change these areas (X, Y & Z) instead of changing everything from (A to Z).



As a school teacher, I take 100% responsibility to everything that happened with the students.

I can not lay any blame on the parents as it's my duty of care to understand the process and procedure required during the day.

The buck stops with me. I can not turn around and say, you are 50% to blame so that removes my responsibility.

The buck had to stop with the club, they have to step up and look after the best interest of the club, for their members.

Blame Tippett all you like but that won't help the Crows any. Not anymore. It won't make us better or improve our processes or procedures.

I'm choosing not to as that ship has sailed and want the best for the club in the now and future. Not the past.

It just simply makes no sense when you say the club was 100% to blame, that Tippett and his manager did nothing wrong.. You're using that as a tool to give the club no "out" of the situation.. You don't need to.. They are wrong for their part in it, that's all that matters when you analyse it from the clubs perspective..

It's not hard to separate the actual situation that took place from our angle on it and how it impacts us, what we should do about it etc.. So, now you can stop using that as justification to tell people to leave poor Tippett alone.. You want all vitriol to be directed at the club, we know.. But some of us can compartmentalise..

I'm amazed that you can care enough about a few people on the webz being passionate footy supporters and giving Tiprat some shit that you can turn it into this, but keep fighting the good fight

 

[Tex200]

Geez I go out for one night and this thread explodes .

Sanders - in a sentence - WTF was all that about?

 

[Elite Crow]

I'm more upset with Tippett entering into an illegal agreement in the first place than him leaving the club.

Must be a massive FIGJAM to want to go behind your team mates backs and sign on to something that they know nothing about or can't get access to themselves. As a team mate that would hurt.

The worst part is he wanted a clause that meant when he left the club was weakened by receiving inadequate compensation. Who does that? Not excusing the club for being stupid enough to oblige.

 

[redhorse]

I'm more upset with Tippett entering into an illegal agreement in the first place than him leaving the club.

Must be a massive FIGJAM to want to go behind your team mates backs and sign on to something that they know nothing about or can't get access to themselves. As a team mate that would hurt.

Agreed! Dog Act

 

[Moonwatcher]

Well I paid $60 for a good Tippett V Carlton clash and was let down

 

[GROTTO]

Didnt watch the game, but it appears another fine performance in a big game. Regardless if he was injured.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Took an epic mark and kicked a point from dead in front. Would have monstered Carlton tonight.

 

[GROTTO]

You know what. I don't care.

The club were wrong and no one will convince me otherwise.

I worry about things and people at the club - no players, coaches or administrators at different clubs.

Your sounding like a knob. Chill out and take 5.

 

[GROTTO]

Well I paid $60 for a good Tippett V Carlton clash and was let down

How $60 ?

 

[Moonwatcher]

I'm in Sydney so I thought I would go out and see ANZ Stadium. Didn't have a lot of atmosphere, perhaps because the game was over midway through the 3rd.

 

[GROTTO]

I'm in Sydney so I thought I would go out and see ANZ Stadium. Didn't have a lot of atmosphere, perhaps because the game was over midway through the 3rd.

True. This happens with any game in fairness.

 

[Sanders]

Fine - I give up with you.

You win. Not arguing with you anymore.

BTW - what do you do, other than sell fast food. Then I can extract the urine out your job by saying you have no accountability and socially irresponsible.

I run a school

 

[Sanders]

Geez I go out for one night and this thread explodes .

Sanders - in a sentence - WTF was all that about?

Alex is telling everyone he is morally better than them because he is above criticising Kurt.

 

[rodkimble]

Jeezeeeeee.... I last posted here in October 2012 and its still going hahah

 

[jackster83]

The worst part is he wanted a clause that meant when he left the club was weakened by receiving inadequate compensation. Who does that? Not excusing the club for being stupid enough to oblige.

Seriously, whoever is captain next year (even if it is VB) needs to let him know about it. Make no mistake, he committed treason against his team mates back in 2009.

 

[Sanders]

Seriously, whoever is captain next year (even if it is VB) needs to let him know about it. Make no mistake, he committed treason against his team mates back in 2009.

That's going a bit far

He left like a jerk, but don't forget he could have just signed with GCS back then