Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[Lia]

Probably too early to call the ramifications of that pick trade. Tom Morris running with the snooze you lose line is a complete joke when we are apparently losing when missing out on a scenario of trading pick 14 for a midget.

 

[SSSSSS]

Yep it’s why Sam doesn’t really believe he needs a new fullback. Chasing of significant player was not out of need. Just out of fun.

Well ain’t funny now.

It's the cherry on top. Not a need.

Our defensive structures have held up well. We were one of the best defensive units for the second half of the season.

TB is obviously a quality addition and we are looking to add more A-graders but I don't think we're going to be in any strife if the deal falls through (it wont).

 

[stallon]

Pick 14 was always going to go to the tigers for Baker anyway so 14 is irrelevant if tigers are happy with a F1 instead

14 for Baker in a straight swap is a terrible deal that id like to think we werent on board with.
14 for Baker + a 2024 2nd rounder id settle for.
If the Tigers are happy with a f1 for Baker + a 2nd rounder then sure

 

[ghostbat12]

Probably too early to call the ramifications of that pick trade. Tom Morris running with the snooze you lose line is a complete joke when we are apparently losing when missing out on a scenario of trading pick 14 for a midget.

It’s a future first still a first round pick?

I’d say Richmond wouldn’t mind having one in 2025.

 

[stallon]

I don't understand this thinking? Will your premiership window have closed in 12 months? Will you no longer want/need draft picks?

Why would a first be worth the same as a better first and a decent 2nd?

This years picks are worth far more to clubs than next years, this draft is seeming like its much stronger.

Theres a reason Carlton paid what could be pick 14ish + a 2nd rounder for pick 14 this year

 

[Spod]

Putting the carry on aside, this probably all just means the trade will involve an F1 + other bits instead of 14 and all the carry on is over not much. Surely Richmond would ultimately be okay with an F1 for Baker and if not then Eagles bank it for a Warner play.

 

[SSSSSS]

14 + F2 with a F3 coming back. That's what I predicted our offer would be.

Puts TB's value at roughly pick 10-11.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

This years picks are worth far more to clubs than next years, this draft is seeming like its much stronger.

Theres a reason Carlton paid what could be pick 14ish + a 2nd rounder for pick 14 this year

That reason is that they are in their window and they want Dan Houston.

Nothing to do with the strength of the drafts, which are always wildly inaccurate 12 months out.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I wonder if this is a way for Eagles to get back into the draft again without having pick 14 to give Richmond.

We could be heading towards Hawks future 1st + F2nd + 26 for Pick 6 and 41 type deal

 

[dean33]

Putting the carry on aside, this probably all just means the trade will involve an F1 + other bits instead of 14 and all the carry on is over not much. Surely Richmond would ultimately be okay with an F1 for Baker and if not then Eagles bank it for a Warner play.

I doubt we’d want a future first in a weaker draft from a potential top 4 team. Time to get creative west coast.

 

[HeHateMe]

All these pick trades must be leading to something. Could it be something like this crazy hypothetical...

Haw: Barrass
WC: Baker, 20
GC: Rioli, F1(Carl), F2(Carl)
Rich: 6, 12, F2nd(Haw)

 

[ghostbat12]

It's the cherry on top. Not a need.

Our defensive structures have held up well. We were one of the best defensive units for the second half of the season.

TB is obviously a quality addition and we are looking to add more A-graders but I don't think we're going to be in any strife if the deal falls through (it wont).

Hahaha a cherry on top. Pay him 900-$1m for a cherry on top.

First time ever a full back has been described as a cherry on top.

Onya.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Ralph opening his eyes one tweet at a time

 

[bradfisher14]

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Thanks for spicing it up Hawks, must have been as bored as the rest of us

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Ralph opening his eyes one tweet at a time

That is unbelievably unbias from Ralph, who stole his twitter account

 

[stallon]

14 + F2 with a F3 coming back. That's what I predicted our offer would be.

Puts TB's value at roughly pick 10-11.

No it doesnt lmao.
your f2 is likely to be at 38ish, our f3 is likely to be at 44ish.
Youd get 38 in a trade with 44+47(roughly)

Your offer was 14+essentially a future pick 47ish

Just insulting

 

[Come back Cyril]

All these pick trades must be leading to something. Could it be something like this crazy hypothetical...

Haw: Barrass
WC: Baker, 20
GC: Rioli, F1(Carl), F2(Carl)
Rich: 6, 12, F2nd(Haw)

No chance we pay more than we were willing to offer for Barrass (14 and F3). We'll be looking to turn Carl F1 and F2 in Barrass, depends on what Rochmond willing to accept for Baker I guess (if its Carl F1? then WC gets Baker and a F2 for Barrass, what they have been aiming for).

 

[HR Roughnstuf]

I hope WC keep him.

Hawks just signed Battle for free. Barrass is surplus to needs. Is a luxury not a need.

Barrass and F2 for Carlton F1.

 

[stallon]

No chance we pay more than we were willing to offer for Barrass (14 and F3). We'll be looking to turn Carl F1 and F2 in Barrass, depends on what Rochmond willing to accept for Baker I guess (if its Carl F1? then WC gets Baker and a F2 for Barrass, what they have been aiming for).

We wouldve been aiming for something back with 14 for Baker

 

[Spod]

All these pick trades must be leading to something. Could it be something like this crazy hypothetical...

Haw: Barrass
WC: Baker, 20
GC: Rioli, F1(Carl), F2(Carl)
Rich: 6, 12, F2nd(Haw)

Yeah maybe a few late picks to balance things up here and there but could see something like this sorting it out.

 

[Da Game]

I think it could now be Carlton F1 + Carlton F2 straight up for Barrass.

For Hawthorn it will be Pick 14 for Barrass equivalent.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Vic media in tatters over West Coast not accepting to their two Vic club reaming by taking Hawthorn's pick and immediately giving it to Richmond for Baker.

Proud of my club for standing their ground. They made it known from the start they wanted two first rounders for a former club bnf winner two has two years left on his deal. This is incumbent on the Hawks to make it work, not West Coast.

 

[Come back Cyril]

We wouldve been aiming for something back with 14 for Baker

Which might be the play. If Rich accept Carltons F1, then we still have Carlton's F2 to give up - but also very possible WC would want more, in which case it's probably a stalemate. Interesting..

 

[Barrybran]

14 + F2 with a F3 coming back. That's what I predicted our offer would be.

Puts TB's value at roughly pick 10-11.

If we can get pick 10 for Barrass I'd be happy with that

HAW
OUT: F1, F2 (alternating teams to hedge bets)
IN: Barrass, 67

WCE:
OUT: Barrass
IN: 10

FRE
OUT: 10, 67
IN: F1, F2

I can't see that happening but Freo could offload an F1 + 18 for Bolton and keep 11 for Bo Allan. Richmond fans won't be happy but that would be in the middle of the current offers.

F2 for Baker

Hawthorn gets their man while preserving their 2024 and 2025 draft hands (which has been well played)