Traded Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[Tony_Clifton]

He's probably mad he's on the same coin as Gaffy, that Darlings getting paid a touch more and McGovern significantly more.

You better keep that career ending back injury on the down low. Easier to fleece the Hawks if they dont know.

 

[Barrybran]

Barrass could play in a flag at Hawthorn, he won't play finals again at WC. A break up suits all imo

He could play finals again with us. Just not many and likely not a preliminary final. The only reason this has come up is to provide better security for Barrass. Basically, making the most of what time he has left. But he could certainly win a flag with a contender that he won't with us, nor will (should) we entertain improving the contract he already has in place for another three years. It's all business but Tom has been and will continue to be well looked after by us should a trade not eventuate.

 

[pantskyle]

He's probably mad he's on the same coin as Gaffy, that Darlings getting paid a touch more and McGovern significantly more.

You better keep that career ending back injury on the down low. Easier to fleece the Hawks if they dont know.

Everyone know he has a back issue.

 

[Tony_Clifton]

Everyone know he has a back issue.

Oh. And they still want to give two first rounders? Start the car!

 

[pantskyle]

Oh. And they still want to give two first rounders? Start the car!

Who's offered two first rounders?

 

[Tony_Clifton]

Who's offered two first rounders?

Well i guess nobodys offered anything really. Its only just become August.

any idea what fair value would be?

 

[pantskyle]

Well i guess nobodys offered anything really. Its only just become August.

Yeah does seem a tad early.

 

[Tony_Clifton]

Yeah does seem a tad early.

What if Sam Mitchell wasn't interviewing Tom Barrass but was a back channel to make Sam an offer he couldn't refuse because the soft cap doesnt really exist if you can pay the fine. Ah, what then?

Tom's not testing the waters, he's on the job.

 

[pantskyle]

What if Sam Mitchell wasn't interviewing Tom Barrass but was a back channel to make Sam an offer he couldn't refuse because the soft cap doesnt really exist if you can pay the fine. Ah, what then?

Tom's not testing the waters, he's on the job.

OH MY LORD

 

[Tony_Clifton]

This thread is tagged speculation so im all good.

Last year Barrass was speaking to Sydney. And by speaking to Sydney I mean Dean Cox

Dean Cox

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43

Ht

203cm

Wt

107kg

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F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.9

4star

K

8.9

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

5.3

5star

T

1.5

3star

G

0.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

5.8

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.8

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1.4

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0.0

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Notice how it's mainly about hawthorn and not the bulldogs? I dont blame you guys. I dont rate Bevo either.

 

[Elite Pete]

Mitchell wants to overpay for a KPD. Which is why he went after McKay and Esava.

Seems eagles will the the beneficiary of his chase.

It’s not like I have any say in the matter.

Im not sure how closely you’ve watched the Eagles and TB but trust me he is a needle mover and you won’t be disappointed.

If we could keep TB and get your first and future 2nd (my thoughts on what it will cost) we’d clearly do it. But different stages of the reboot and a 29yo makes more sense for you then us.

If it falls through and TB decides he wants to stay in WA, it’s not the best result for our rebuild but the spine is pretty settled for 4-5 years to get the other things in order. As long a HEdwards then doesn’t decide he doesn’t want to be 3rd man up for the next 2 years.

 

[Barrybran]

What if Sam Mitchell wasn't interviewing Tom Barrass but was a back channel to make Sam an offer he couldn't refuse because the soft cap doesnt really exist if you can pay the fine. Ah, what then?

Tom's not testing the waters, he's on the job.

Welcome back West Coast Eagles legend, Sam Mitchell

 

[pantskyle]

Welcome back West Coast Eagles legend, Sam Mitchell

Won a Brownlow with us.

 

[eagles rule]

We don't need to do either

I know but we aren’t slimy scum like those Geelong dicks ..


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[lordbob]

Luckily for Cats supporters the Geelong recruiting team didn't agree with your strategy when they paid plenty to trade in a 29 year old Cameron.

A massive part of their last premiership.

Brian Lake......remember how that story ended?

cameron was about 27 when he went to the cats. he was also one of if not the best key forward in the game. Had won 2 all australians and a coleman with GWS. Considering how many first round busts that year had, they paid a very low price for him in hindsight.

Players picked with what geelong paid:
Tom brown (2021 future first traded with richmond) - 18 games
Ryan Angwin - 16 games
Conor Stone - 9 games

 

[triple treat]

850k

Doesn't trigger first round

Will be a Hawk
As will Barrass

You seem pretty confident in this BIGHAWK23, may i ask where your getting your info from?

I hope we do get both by the way.

 

[triple treat]

If Tom Barrass is too old then the argument can be made that James Sicily should be traded for more first round picks.

i Haven't read the whole thread but where has it been said he is too old?
I read too old for multiple 1st round draft picks however.

 

[triple treat]

Hawks knew what the price would be when they came knocking and sent a coach over trying to convince him to come over.

Silly logic on why Eagles fans are happy to trade him.

So do you think that Mitchell just went I think ill go over to the west and knock on Barrass door and see if he would like to come play for the Hawks next year? I would say that Barrass would off ( with the blessing of the Eagles ) given the green light to go over for a chat.
Just like Battle and the Saints would off given the green light for those talks to happen as well.

 

[garlic munchers]

So if Barrass shopped himself to Sydney last year and then after courting them backed out and is now happy to entertain offers whilst under Contract, WC should feel comfortable being as mercenary as they can in shipping him off for picks.

 

[eaglespremiers]

You better keep that career ending back injury on the down low. Easier to fleece the Hawks if they dont know.

Either way the club trading for him will do their due diligence. Then they will either be satisfied that his back will stand up or they won't.
This won't affect any trade for him as it's a threshold question, not a currency question.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Luckily for Cats supporters the Geelong recruiting team didn't agree with your strategy when they paid plenty to trade in a 29 year old Cameron.

A massive part of their last premiership.

Brian Lake......remember how that story ended?

Brian Lake came into the best side in the league that had just choked in the Grand Final. There was only one piece missing in the side and it was a strong KPD.

Never has there been a trade that fit the needs of the side so perfectly. He also wasn't going to cost a first round pick, minimum (or so it seems).

It's just not the same scenario. Granted this changes if we somehow make the Grand Final and it becomes evident that Frosty (who is having a career best year) is not cut out for high pressure games.

Also, Cameron wasn't 29 when Geelong traded for him, and he didn't have the potential career ending injury spectre looming over him.

 

[Elite Pete]

So do you think that Mitchell just went I think ill go over to the west and knock on Barrass door and see if he would like to come play for the Hawks next year? I would say that Barrass would off ( with the blessing of the Eagles ) given the green light to go over for a chat.
Just like Battle and the Saints would off given the green light for those talks to happen as well.

Of course TB would’ve green lighted it. In his position he would 100% be listening to offers and weighing it up and so he should if he feels like he’s been screwed over by the Eagles.

Still doesn’t mean he is 100% locked into moving but with an unlikely extension coming I think he will now go down that path.

 

[Mofra]

I do wonder if the handshake deal behind the scenes is we let English walk as a FA, offer those dollars to Barrass, and WCE trigger band 1 and get that pick for Barrass with a "floor" so if that pick is too late the Bulldogs stump up an extra pick.

In cap terms we'd be paying Barrass instead of Tim so no change to our cap. West Coast effectively get an extra first rounder and Tim English for Barrass.
We ruck Lobb/Darcy next year.

 

[Elite Pete]

I do wonder if the handshake deal behind the scenes is we let English walk as a FA, offer those dollars to Barrass, and WCE trigger band 1 and get that pick for Barrass with a "floor" so if that pick is too late the Bulldogs stump up an extra pick.

In cap terms we'd be paying Barrass instead of Tim so no change to our cap. West Coast effectively get an extra first rounder and Tim English for Barrass.
We ruck Lobb/Darcy next year.

Makes a lot of sense but need it to be a 3 way handshake with TB and like you said depends where that pick ends up with your current form. I reckon Garcia would be thrown in if he agrees

 

[Barrybran]

Makes a lot of sense but need it to be a 3 way handshake with TB and like you said depends where that pick ends up with your current form. I reckon Garcia would be thrown in if he agrees

Where does a band 1 pick for the Dogs land when they don't have a first round pick available? There's enough of a difference between pick 11 and pick 19.