Confirmed Tom Barrass & 2025 F4 (WCE) traded to Hawthorn for 2025 F1, F2 & F3 (all Haw)

[BIGHAWK23]

They have all slinked back

 

[Delisted]

I always knew there was somthing about Owies. He always puts a smile on your face.

 

[Philhawk]

stallon will you accept a F3 for Barrass now?

 

[CharacterFirst]

WCE need this guy to give them a hand when dealing with the Hawks.

Last time he dealt with the Mayblooms they completely went to water.

 

[Philhawk]

Personally, I hope they keep Barrass now after all the idiotic posturing last 2 weeks.

To confirm,

They could have kept pick 3 and then traded 14 from Hawks for Baker?

Instead, they’ve valued Mitch Owies (a guy deemed below average in most of his stats in 2024) and pick 12 as worth Pick 3.

Amateur hour. Looking forward to receiving their F1 and Barrass for DGB and our F2.

 

[John Wayne II]

Personally, I hope they keep Barrass now after all the idiotic posturing last 2 weeks.

To confirm,

They could have kept pick 3 and then traded 14 from Hawks for Baker?

Instead, they’ve valued Mitch Owies (a guy deemed below average in most of his stats in 2024) and pick 12 as worth Pick 3.

Amateur hour. Looking forward to receiving their F1 and Barrass for DGB and our F2.

Our terrible trade with Carlton decouples Barrass from Baker, so it weakens your hand.

It'll be 2 F1s and some pick swaps, or F1 + F2.

 

[Snoref]

Clarke is obsessed with making hawks over pay that he let's other clubs bend WC over...based on that I would walk away

 

[CobberRodgers]

Our terrible trade with Carlton decouples Barrass from Baker, so it weakens your hand.

It'll be 2 F1s and some pick swaps, or F1 + F2.

You’re not getting 2 firsts.

You never were, and you certainly aren’t now.

 

[Philhawk]

Our terrible trade with Carlton decouples Barrass from Baker, so it weakens your hand.

It'll be 2 F1s and some pick swaps, or F1 + F2.

F1 and F2 is fine.

It’s what everyone suggested all along (14 + F2), but the vast majority of Eagles fans in this thread insisted “wasn’t enough”.

It’s still a massive win for us. We turned a single pick this year into what’ll likely be the entire deal for Barrass, with a pick coming back our way.

 

[John Wayne II]

F1 and F2 is fine.

It’s what everyone suggested all along (14 + F2), but the vast majority of Eagles fans in this thread insisted “wasn’t enough”.

It’s still a massive win for us. We turned a single pick this year into what’ll likely be the entire deal for Barrass, with a pick coming back our way.

You offered 14 + F2 for F3, which was rejected. 14 + F2 was never offered, as confirmed by Twomey today.

 

[Philhawk]

You offered 14 + F2 for F3, which was rejected. 14 + F2 was never offered, as confirmed by Twomey today.

So even if it is F1 and F2 and no F3 back, we have still won out considering we achieved it by trading 14 to Carlton alone.

As stated, you should have accepted the original deal then you wouldn’t have had to do the idiotic pick downgrade.

 

[John Wayne II]

So even if it is F1 and F2 and no F3 back, we have still won out considering we achieved it by trading 14 to Carlton alone.

As stated, you should have accepted the original deal then you wouldn’t have had to do the idiotic pick downgrade.

Yes, but that offer wasn't there without the trade, so you made a move to make it happen.

14 was unders, an F1 + F2 is probably closer, so Carlton overpaid slightly on that pick swap. We just grossly overpaid on another one in isolation.

 

[THE_GUN]

You offered 14 + F2 for F3, which was rejected. 14 + F2 was never offered, as confirmed by Twomey today.

Looking like the eagles over valued Barrass
Hawks offer was spot on and they should have taken the #14 + F2 for Barrass + F3
F3 is a nothing pick that get thrown around all the time specially in next years draft

Looks like barrass & Bolton are the same value
Out: Barrass
In : Baker

 

[Snoref]

My absolute ceiling would be F1 and f2 for Barrass. If they did that trade with Rich and Carl then they have no right to demand 2 first for Barrass.

 

[John Wayne II]

Looking like the eagles over valued Barrass
Hawks offer was spot on and they should have taken the #14 + F2 for Barrass + F3
F3 is a nothing pick that get thrown around all the time specially in next years draft

Looks like barrass & Bolton are the same value
Out: Barrass
In : Baker

F2 and F3 means a small pick slide for Hawks given they are 3rd favourite and we'll likely finish 2nd to last.

So no, it's not a nothing pick.

 

[HairyO]

You offered 14 + F2 for F3, which was rejected. 14 + F2 was never offered, as confirmed by Twomey today.

What does Twomey think of trading pick 3 for 12 and Baker and a late F1, when you could have had 3 and Baker.

3 is worth 12 and a late F1?

 

[Philhawk]

Yes, but that offer wasn't there without the trade, so you made a move to make it happen.

14 was unders, an F1 + F2 is probably closer, so Carlton overpaid slightly on that pick swap. We just grossly overpaid on another one in isolation.

You’re missing the point.

Even if 14 and F2 wasn’t offered, you should have accepted 14 alone.

You could have done the deal with the Blues yourself and found a way to make it include Owies.

Instead you’ve stupidly downgraded now for no reason at all.

 

[John Wayne II]

What does Twomey think of trading pick 3 for 12 and Baker and a late F1, when you could have had 3 and Baker.

3 is worth 12 and a late F1?

Twomey is defending the Eagles pick split, I disagree with him.

 

[Lia]

Would be feeling a lot more confident as a Hawf supporter today.

 

[John Wayne II]

You’re missing the point.

Even if 14 and F2 wasn’t offered, you should have accepted 14 alone.

You could have done the deal with the Blues yourself and found a way to make it include Owies.

Instead you’ve stupidly downgraded now for no reason at all.

We shouldn't just accept 14 just because you really want it.

 

[John Wayne II]

What does Twomey think of trading pick 3 for 12 and Baker and a late F1, when you could have had 3 and Baker.

3 is worth 12 and a late F1?

It'll be a different story if it is F1 + F1 For Barrass and F2, but right now we obviously cooked our swap with Carlton.

 

[Philhawk]

We shouldn't just accept 14 just because you really want it.

Sigh.

How are you not getting it?

You don’t like the deal you’ve done with Carlton because it’s a stupid downgrade.

I’m saying clearly Carlton wanted 14. It’s not stupid to say they would have traded their F1 and F2 to you for 14. You could have thrown in your own F2 for Owies.

Guess what, you’d have ended up with 3, Owies, Baker plus Carlton F1 and F2.

Instead you’ve stupidly downgraded AND missed out on future picks.

 

[John Wayne II]

Sigh.

How are you not getting it?

You don’t like the deal you’ve done with Carlton because it’s a stupid downgrade.

I’m saying clearly Carlton wanted 14. It’s not stupid to say they would have traded their F1 and F2 to you for 14. You could have thrown in your own F2 for Owies.

Guess what, you’d have ended up with 3, Owies, Baker plus Carlton F1 and F2.

Instead you’ve stupidly downgraded AND missed out on future picks.

Yes, we cooked the deal with Carlton in isolation.

But we did the right thing by rejecting your unders offer for Barrass. The two things are ultimately connected but two wrongs wouldn't have made a right.

 

[THE_GUN]

Even just doing a straight swap Barrass for Baker and having pick #3 would have been better than this
But i really cant understand why the eagles wouldnt just do Baker + #10 for pick #3 with Richmond without Carlton being involved. Owies would have been a delisted free agent anyway

Maybe Tigers not interested in #3 is the only thing that i can think of

 

[HR Roughnstuf]

Wow, all the WC apologists have vacated this thread.

Only the most rusted on delusional nuffies left.