You’re preaching to the converted. He’s a gun. But he’ll also be 29 with back issues and wants out due to false promises. You won’t be getting 2 1sts and I’ll happily take that to the bank.
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Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027]
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You’re preaching to the converted. He’s a gun. But he’ll also be 29 with back issues and wants out due to false promises. You won’t be getting 2 1sts and I’ll happily take that to the bank.
Taylor
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We should do that.
Dangerfield, free agent, traded because it would get slightly better return than compensation.
Dawson, traded for a later first because Adelaide could take him for nothing in the PSD
May - contracted but having cultural issues, moves as part of the Hogan deal (injured and depressed)
Neale, Gibbs, Lever might be better examples.
Are the Eagles chasing draft points? No.
Those examples don't include unknown future picks. The clubs knew what they were getting at the time of those trades.
And future picks are discounted to a degree as you get zero benefit for the first 12 months.
2024 pick 11 slides to 13.
Next years draft is one of the most compromised to date. Say 2025 Hawks pick is 14. That likely slides to 17 to 20.
Can see the Eagles adding a future 2nd or 3rd.
Lever a great one.
Melbourne received a 2nd and 3rd back in exchange for their 2 1sts (10 and 18).
Making the total deal worth, in terms of draft points, the same as … a 1st and 2nd.
Iceman!
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West Coast can set whatever price they want, he is contracted. I am just suggesting our use of one asset doesn’t have to mean we value him the same with the other.
West coast only think he is worth 750 over 3 years, should that lessen what they value him at?
How many of those blokes had 3 years to run on their contract?
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So you wouldn’t trade two late firsts if it meant instantly improving your list with an AA calibre player in the position you need most?
Decent chance at least one of those picks doesn’t make it to 200 games.
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Points grading is worth **** all when there isn't a FS/Academy tied to it.
Just because pick 24 and 32 equal pick 12 (no I didn't do the math I could be off there) doesn't mean they are equal.
Dubious. 1x AA squad nomination in his career and 0 team selections. Can count on one hand the number of times he's finished top 10 in the John Worsfold Medal.
Taylor
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The ladder positions are different for the team losing the player since Adelaide's second round pick was at the end of the round compared to WC's being right at the start.
But having the trade follow as:
#11 and Future 1st for Tom Barrass and future 3rd is about the same.
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We offered him 4 years but he wants 5 is a part of the impasse we are at.
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I can see 2 firsts working.
Our first this year and us and eagles swap f1’s next year for Barrass or keep your future 1st and throw in a Harley instead…
Our first this year and us and eagles swap f1’s next year for Barrass or keep your future 1st and throw in a Harley instead…
So we give you Barrass and 3 ( or Harley) for say 10 & 12.
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What do you think he is being offered?
H00t
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Sounds good to me. Eagles still winning the trade slightly but we can take the hit to help you guys out.
Your username checks out haha
So much posturing, I love it.
I personally wouldn’t. 1 1st, yep. Barrass has played an average of 17 games a season across last five years and I wouldn’t expect that number to increase over next 5. If we could get 80 out of him, I’d be happy. But it’s not worth 2 1sts.
I personally wouldn’t. 1 1st, yep. Barrass has played an average of 17 games a season across last five years and I wouldn’t expect that number to increase over next 5. If we could get 80 out of him, I’d be happy. But it’s not worth 2 1sts.
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If I was to guess it would probably be wrong but would have to be less than our captain at the very least.
Predicting ladder positions is fraught with danger. It’s fun to assume Hawks will rise, but Pies did that and their pick swap with us will now actually be a downgrade for us.
Only reasonable measure is to assume picks remain as is.
A third rounder is a pick in the 40s, not 30s.
Based on picks this year at present, not including picks pushed back
10 + 10 for Barrass + 42 puts Barrass at worth pick 3.
Too much.
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I love the hypocrisy to then include a season where he gets tunnelled and misses the rest of the season and also the Covid season where he played 18 games. Which was every game. Take out his single season ending injury courtesy of Jack and he’s actually been pretty durable. You’re getting a fantastic player and a sharp mind on and off the field too.
It might sound appropriate, I’m just saying it will never happen. It’d be arguably the biggest trade in afl history based on draft pick worth.
10 + 30 puts Barrass worth at pick 8 which is far more reasonable, which is where I think it’ll land.
