Speculation Tom Barrass [UFA 2027]

[bzparkes]

Ok, just the First this year and a 3rd next year

Pleasure

Nope.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Nope.

Ah well

It's not like you are the list manager

 

[RCAB]

It's his hamstring mate, not his vertebrae.

So it's back, concussion and now add a hamstring. Is there anything else we can add to this soon to be 30 year old player?

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

So it's back, concussion and now add a hamstring. Is there anything else we can add to this soon to be 30 year old player?

Poor bloke...

 

[H00t]

Nope, he's 3 years younger and on a long contract.

Just over a year and a half younger. (1 year and 7 months).

Lake is going to end up 5+ years older at this rate according to Eagles supporters.

 

[bzparkes]

Just over a year and a half younger. (1 year and 7 months).

Lake is going to end up 5+ years older at this rate according to Eagles supporters.

So he'll be 2 years younger than Lake when was when he played his first game for Hawthorn(29 vs 31)?

Got it.

 

[HeHateMe]

Trade period will probably play out like this:

• WC will ask for 11 + F1st for Barrass + F2nd
• Hawthorn will offer 27 + F2nd for Barrass + F3rd
• WC will say no and ask for a 1st Rd pick to be included.
• Hawthorn will offer either 11 or F1st.
• WC will ask for 27 or F2nd to be included as well.
• Hawthorn will offer 11 + F3rd.
• WC will counter 11 + F2nd.
• Hawthorn will put final offer 11 + F2nd for Barrass + F3rd.
• Will drag out till finals minutes of trade deadline with threats from both sides of walking away.
• minutes before trade deadline closes
• Hawthorn offer 11 + F2nd
• WC accept, paperwork lodged.

 

[H00t]

So he'll be 2 years younger than Lake when was when he played his first game for Hawthorn(29 vs 31)?

Got it.

It’s still just a year and a half age difference in real terms and Lake was significantly more durable and without a bad back,

Also you said 3 years. Which is double the actual age difference.

 

[bzparkes]

It’s still just a year and a half age difference in real terms and Lake was significantly more durable and without a bad back,

Also you said 3 years. Which is double the actual age difference.

So he'll be 29, compared to 31 when Lake played his first game?

 

[Lia]

It’s still just a year and a half age difference in real terms and Lake was significantly more durable and without a bad back,

Also you said 3 years. Which is double the actual age difference.

Well Lake missed most of 2011 with injury and various surgeries but go on.

 

[bzparkes]

Well Lake missed most of 2011 with injury and various surgeries but go on.

He was also 31 before he played his first game for Hawthorn.

Barrass will be entering his third season for hawthorn by the time he's 31.

 

[H00t]

Well Lake missed most of 2011 with injury and various surgeries but go on.

Lake played at least 20 games the previous six years before that and the two seasons directly after 2011 also played 20+ games something Barrass has yet to do in career.

 

[H00t]

So he'll be 29, compared to 31 when Lake played his first game?

Still only a year and a half apart in age compared to 3.

 

[eaglespremiers]

25 year old darling v a 25 year old Gunston
Ill take Jack Gunston every day of the week

This is so completely besides the point of this thread but you do know that in early 2018 (i.e. when Darling was 25 years of age) he was arguably the best player in the comp in the first half of the year before injuries.
And then he had his best season and won AA honours in 2019.
That's not to say you wouldn't take Gunston over his entire career (I wouldn't, but I see the argument), however, your arbitrary age would definitely be favourable to Darling.

 

[ArdentEagle]

Trade period will probably play out like this:

• WC will ask for 11 + F1st for Barrass + F2nd
• Hawthorn will offer 27 + F2nd for Barrass + F3rd
• WC will say no and ask for a 1st Rd pick to be included.
• Hawthorn will offer either 11 or F1st.
• WC will ask for 27 or F2nd to be included as well.
• Hawthorn will offer 11 + F3rd.
• WC will counter 11 + F2nd.
• Hawthorn will put final offer 11 + F2nd for Barrass + F3rd.
• Will drag out till finals minutes of trade deadline with threats from both sides of walking away.
• minutes before trade deadline closes
• Hawthorn offer 11 + F2nd
• WC accept, paperwork lodged.

Nailed it!

 

[THE_GUN]

This is so completely besides the point of this thread but you do know that in early 2018 (i.e. when Darling was 25 years of age) he was arguably the best player in the comp in the first half of the year before injuries.
And then he had his best season and won AA honours in 2019.
That's not to say you wouldn't take Gunston over his entire career (I wouldn't, but I see the argument), however, your arbitrary age would definitely be favourable to Darling.

OK lets change it to 26 if that better

 

[eaglespremiers]

OK lets change it to 26 if that better

Again, Darling kicked 59 goals and was All Australian in 2019 when he was 26. So I think at that age he was elite.

 

[Lia]

Unless another team bobs up (or the Eagles about-face and renegotiate with Barrass), the Eagles are looking at the Hawks first or the Cats first (via Dogs) as the primary component.

I think they’ll have done very well if on top of that they manage to do something like upgrade their F3 to the Dogs/Hawks F2. That would be a great result for them.

If the Hawks pick ends up 12, I think they’d have reasonable grounds to say that’s enough for Barrass. And I think the Eagles will be hard pressed to hold out for too much more in the circumstances.

12 plus some horse trading for sundries will probably be about right, I'd like a second rounder but we will have to see.

 

[Farang83150]

true they would definitely lie about the guy who had a serious back injury struggling with his back just before he was about to request a trade...

....before

 

[Hawker399]

Least things have calmed down here with respect to Barrass trade value. Seems like pick around 12 is getting grudging acceptance. In the end a pick value of about 18-20 will probably be the outcome.

 

[The Golden Glenferrie]

Least things have calmed down here with respect to Barrass trade value. Seems like pick around 12 is getting grudging acceptance. In the end a pick value of about 18-20 will probably be the outcome.

Extremely fair.

 

[Phas]

Hawk's R1 for Barrass to play for the Hawks in 2025.

Pies R2 or Hawk's F2 for WC to pay for Barrass to play for the Hawks in 2025.

 

[THE_GUN]

Sounding more and more like the relationship between TB & Eagles has seriously deteriorated and hawks 1st rounder where ever it lands will get the deal done.

 

[stallon]

Least things have calmed down here with respect to Barrass trade value. Seems like pick around 12 is getting grudging acceptance. In the end a pick value of about 18-20 will probably be the outcome.

Pick 11/12 + a 2nd rounder is the deal bud.
If you win too much then your F1 comes into it

 

[Hawker399]

Hawks 1st and 2nd for Barrass and WCE 2nd. Index value pick 19.