Strategy Trade and List Management thread 2.(...the waiting for the hammer to fall edition)

[Sentinel]

You can make an argument that he is worth a 2nd rounder. Multiple BOG performances, top handful in the Brownlow for the Dogs, coming into his prime and bolstering an area that Saints are shallow in.

You could probably more reasonably argue however that rather than coming into his prime he's regressed and is now depth after being best 22 at the start of the year. We'd be doing very well to get anywhere above a third rounder.

He could be a very handy pickup for the Saints, or he could continue to stagnate. That's why they wouldn't want to give up much for him.

 

[Dogsman16]

I dare say we'll be offering our 3rd round pick this year with our future 2nd to be used on Steele

Any players you'd consider for a swap, (that you might want to offload).

 

[TommyD13]

i reckon like some other people have said, Koby Stevens and our 2017 3rd for a Saint Kilda 2017 2nd

 

[AliPud]

Stevens for around Pick 40 would be reasonable. Given Saints trajectory would back in future 3rd Round Pick as Fronk said to be around that mark

 

[Boristown]

You could probably more reasonably argue however that rather than coming into his prime he's regressed and is now depth after being best 22 at the start of the year. We'd be doing very well to get anywhere above a third rounder.

He could be a very handy pickup for the Saints, or he could continue to stagnate. That's why they wouldn't want to give up much for him.

He was injured mid year, wasn't he? Prior to that he had 6 votes in the Brownlow and was firmly in the best 22. Struggled to come back from injury but did finish the year well, with 29 touches in the VFL GF.

He also has another suitor in Essendon, suggesting he has market value. But of course, once the player nominates a single club, it's all over. **** this player power.

 

[66sainter]

Any players you'd consider for a swap, (that you might want to offload).

Not really for the same value as Stevens, we have players like Templeton and Murdoch but i doubt you guys would be interested in them

 

[TommyD13]

Any players you'd consider for a swap, (that you might want to offload).

shenton or templeton maybe?

 

[Dogsman16]

Not really for the same value as Stevens, we have players like Templeton and Murdoch but i doubt you guys would be interested in them

I would look at Webster. Not sure you'd give him up though or contract status.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

shenton or templeton maybe?

 

[Golden_6]

shenton or templeton maybe?

Yuck.

 

[fronkalicious]

i reckon like some other people have said, Koby Stevens and our 2017 3rd for a Saint Kilda 2017 2nd

They'll give their 2017 2nd for Steele.

 

[Sentinel]

He was injured mid year, wasn't he? Prior to that he had 6 votes in the Brownlow and was firmly in the best 22. Struggled to come back from injury but did finish the year well, with 29 touches in the VFL GF.

He also has another suitor in Essendon, suggesting he has market value. But of course, once the player nominates a single club, it's all over. **** this player power.

Yeah, but his votes were in big wins against Carlton (1), Brisbane (3) and GC (2). He had a couple of months where he was right in the 22, but other than that he's been borderline VFL-AFL at the Dogs in recent years (he played 12 games in both 2015 and 2016), and finished the year out of the side. That's not going to get you much on the trade table - for comparison, we got him for pick 44 at the end of 2014 after he'd played a handful of games at the Eagles and was drafted at pick 22. I wouldn't think his value is much higher than at the time of that trade.

 

[Barking Mad]

We will get bugger all for him as he's out of contract. 3rd rounder at best with maybe a 4th rnd upgrade.
If Hamling wants to go I wouldn't expect more than a 3rd either for the same reason.

Comparing free agency guys and the stupid returns they are getting (and rather high contracts)is pointless. The only reason they are getting such picks is the destination clubs front end contracts high to push value up.
In coming years more and more players will be moved on with a year left on contracts to gain fair value. anyone coming out of contract drops a draft round IMO

 

[TiAn_]

Stevens will be the Saints second or third best mid. Think about that.

He's a good player. Strong chance many here will have to eat their words next year.

 

[gangsta deluxe]

Stevens will be the Saints second or third best mid. Think about that.

He's a good player. Strong chance many here will have to eat their words next year.

I'd personally like him to do as well as Steven.

And then I can say that they've got even Stevens.

 

[Simon Phoenix]

They'll give their 2017 2nd for Steele.

It doesn't look like the Saints have anything of value they can offer us. If that's the case, I'd rather Stevens walked to the PSD for nothing.

 

[jdz101]

Stevens will be the Saints second or third best mid. Think about that.

He's a good player. Strong chance many here will have to eat their words next year.

Hes a brute no doubt...not a great kick of the footy though.

A good sign for our club that we saw the potential in jong over stevens.

Older school football brains probably would have gone the other way.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Stevens will be the Saints second or third best mid. Think about that.

He's a good player. Strong chance many here will have to eat their words next year.

I think he has copped a bit of a raw deal from a bunch of people here but at the same time he just hasn't really progressed. Every time he plays a good game he cops an injury or has a poor one the next week. Think he's a good pickup for the Saints but don't think he'll be their second or third best mid.

 

[BRWB]

Stevens will be the Saints second or third best mid. Think about that.

He's a good player. Strong chance many here will have to eat their words next year.

Yep Saints getting a bargain IMO.

 

[JTCWBFC]

Can we seriously get in Billings ear and get him to request a trade to the Dogs now.

I really don't want him but just to see Bigfooty explode.

 

[Northern Dogs]

Any chance of Saints Pick 10 for Stevens & Pick 18 ( with possible 4th round sweetener for Saints)?

 

[Rookie]

Would love to swing something like pick 18 + Koby + ??? for the Sainters first. Pick 50 is not going to be much use for us.

 

[TBOW]

We should throw down a challenge to St. Kilda.

Koby & our 2017 first for their 2017 first.

If they say no we just call them chickens and make clucking noises till they agree..

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Where's the pick 50 talk coming from? I would've thought a second round pick would be about right- they're offering him 450k for 4 years. We gave up pick 26 for crameri when we paid him that much, and that was said to be unders. Free agents being paid that much have netted second round picks. Honestly, if it was pick 50 on offer, I'd make him walk to the PSD- pick 50 is barely worth anything anyway. I'm pretty sure they'd end up giving a second rounder rather than missing out on him.

They are what?!?! $1.8M over 4 years for Stevens...you sure about that??

 

[Bodicifer]

Were always going to lose one of Jong or Stevens, similar players, Bevo went with Jongy.