Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[JTCWBFC]

If sanders can take libbas spot In time, we need the capital we get back for Baz to get us treloars replacement. Ironically that’d be Baz if he stayed but oh well

 

[TiAn_]

I think the five-six games is enough of a sample size of woeful performance that English had when he was a non-factor to prove the point. E.g our narrow loss in R23 against Port where English did basically nothing as a key forward (0FF, 9 disposals, 2 goals fair but from 1 contested mark, which was not inside 50).

Our our 71-point thumping of Port where Martin returned to 1st ruck, but English somehow conspired not to take either a contested mark, mark inside 50 or kick a goal despite the fact we kicked 17 goals as a team and well, ran over the top fo them.

But keep in mind we have our priors that English isn't a forward and is a ruck. We're not going into English forward with an open mind that he could or couldn't be a good forward and thus we should judge him on the games and it's a small sample size, it's on the basis that English isn't a forward so he needs to play well to prove us that a change of position is justified. 5-6 games of poor play simply confirms our priors.

Charlie Curnow averaged 10 disposals, 1 mark inside 50 and 1 goal across his three finals last year. Probably a bit harsh to judge him on that. I’d give some credit to English’s play as a forward during the H&A season that year.

I think the point is our alternatives at the time, once Bruce was out for a year, were pretty miserable. Zaine Cordy as a CHF/ruck in 2022 was an utter debacle, and why we chased Lobb so hard. I’m personally pretty confident rucking Sweet and playing English forward/ruck would have been better than what that Cordy CHF stint produced (I.e. almost nothing: 2 goals, 4 marks I50 and 3 contested marks in 7 (!) games forward). But that is 2-3 years in the past now.

It’s all a moot point because Darcy is twice the player English is so where we play Darcy will largely dictate where we play English. Hopefully that means English majority rucks and floats around the defensive half for the foreseeable future, while Darcy clunks marks and kicks goals for fun.

 

[PurpJuice]

I think you and I have heard the same thing re Dan Houston

Was wondering if we’d go for Houston, but I can’t see the logic behind it.

Can he play midfield or wing?

 

[Bulldogs85]

Just finished up a lunch with my usual source and came to post about Bailey. He has met with hardwick and already done a medical. A switch of preferences is well and truly on the cards. Tigers will not par with Rioli and Suns are desperate to bring in mature talent.

The Trade will get done in the first day if Bailey picks the suns

 

[Dog 36]

The Trade will get done in the first day if Bailey picks the suns

It may get done but will not be announced till last minute to maximise B Smith name been highlighted for max period

 

[Dogs Rule]

Just finished up a lunch with my usual source and came to post about Bailey. He has met with hardwick and already done a medical. A switch of preferences is well and truly on the cards. Tigers will not par with Rioli and Suns are desperate to bring in mature talent.

Geelong now...

 

[Mojorisin]

Was wondering if we’d go for Houston, but I can’t see the logic behind it.

Can he play midfield or wing?

Both. Would be beautiful kicking into the forwardline from the wing.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Can't believe we missed the Suns as the home for Smith. Perfect fit.

Having said that, he'll have plenty of competition on Cavill Ave

 

[ossie_21]

Smith to Suns would give us a more accurate compensation for what he’s worth.

Package up what we get for him + next years 1st + Caleb (Neal-Bullens spot) for Petracca

Don’t @ me

 

[Mojorisin]

Smith to Suns would give us a more accurate compensation for what he’s worth.

Package up what we get for him + next years 1st + Caleb (Neal-Bullens spot) for Petracca

Don’t @ me

Houston instead of trac?

 

[AFDogs]

Imagine the floaters Baz will be kicking on the slippery, humid Gold Coast.

His turnovers are going to triple.

 

[dergert]

Tom Morris & Mitchell Cleary to steal the Baz to GC news from here in 3.... 2... 1...

 

[The Inbetweener]

It may make the rumours of wanting Lukosius off their books make sense given he is on $1M.

 

[PurpJuice]

Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

, our second rounder, Adelaide’s second rounder (tied to CD trade)

For

Suns pick 5

Who says no?

 

[Golden_6]

Bailey Smith, our second rounder, Adelaide’s second rounder (tied to CD trade)

For

Suns pick 5

Who says no?

Probably us.

If he nominates the Suns then I'd be looking for pick 5 straight up. Gold Coast are desperate for a big fish and may be willing to pay a premium for Smith. They have our first rounder to work with as well so they may be more willing to let it go. It's slight overs for us but you look at the Cerra trade a few years ago so there's precedence.

 

[bobs head soup]

Gold Coast is a hot-spot for instagram influencers in Australia.

Bailey's DM's as soon as he announces it

Baz has already taken some photos at the Gold Coast. Didn't turn out too good though

 

[ossie_21]

Houston instead of trac?

I don’t think I rate Houston as high as a lot of others, but I also don’t watch many Port games at all

 

[JohnnySteel]

If Baz chooses Suns we’ll absolutely get two firsts from them (as we should). They have the capital to get the trade done.


On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

Bailey Smith, our second rounder, Adelaide’s second rounder (tied to CD trade)

For

Suns pick 5

Who says no?

I suspect we would ask for pick 5 straight up and the Suns ask for our first in return for possibly a future first. It would probably land somewhere like what you've suggested here I'd imagine.

 

[RWnBluey]

Tom Morris & Mitchell Cleary to steal the Baz to GC news from here in 3.... 2... 1...

Like clockwork. But best news breakers in the game and all that

 

[PurpJuice]

I suspect we would ask for pick 5 straight up and the Suns ask for our first in return for possibly a future first. It would probably land somewhere like what you've suggested here I'd imagine.

Fair enough. What I suggested is probably too much from our end.

I’d be stoked with Baz and our second for pick 5, considering the nature of this year’s draft being so even for the first 10. Not to mention they are mostly midfielders which we need.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Suns don't end up being that much of a better option if they have to trade for a contracted Rioli.

They have 5, 13 and 20 atm.

I'd even be happy enough with 13 and 20 given the depth of the top 20 odd this year.

 

[RWnBluey]

Bailey Smith, our second rounder, Adelaide’s second rounder (tied to CD trade)

For

Suns pick 5

Who says no?

Initial thoughts from a points perspective sounds like significant unders for us

 

[Struggle]

Bailey Smith, our second rounder, Adelaide’s second rounder (tied to CD trade)

For

Suns pick 5

Who says no?

Adelaide

 

[bobs head soup]

GC have Lombard as an academy pick rated in the 8-15 bracket, so holding 5 makes sense for them.

I reckon 10+20 for Baz, 30 + 46 would be about right.

2 top 20 picks in this draft would be strong