Strategy Trade and List management Thread Part 6 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Ash1337]

Pretty sure I flagged it earlier in the year about Noble looking for opportunities elsewhere, shame his chosen the Suns, understand family connections and all but he’d be a very solid JJ replacement.

Although it seems like that’s what Bramble has developed into. I’d still like one more pacy HBF on our list, if Dale goes down (and JJ retires) we don’t have many other options.

Maybe Baker will be trialed there next season?

 

[Cudi]

It speaks to the quality of personnel at that club. When they won the premiership, it papered over the cracks. When their Deenysty failed to eventuate, the paper peeled off again. Glen Bartlett is probably feeling justified and horrified.

Yep this Demon downfall was very predictable. Their issues with culture have always been very public and well known but when they were winning and won a premiership no one cares. It isn't until you start losing and internally start turning on each other that it all blows up. Papering over the cracks as you said.

They were so arrogant to just keep head in the sand and ignore because they had a really good team and didn't want to break it up. Let it fester and here we are.

Makes me appreciate Bevo even more with decisions on players like Stringer and Hunter.

 

[RWnBluey]

Yep this Demon downfall was very predictable. Their issues with culture have always been very public and well known but when they were winning and won a premiership no one cares. It isn't until you start losing and internally start turning on each other that it all blows up. Papering over the cracks as you said.

They were so arrogant to just keep head in the sand and ignore because they had a really good team and didn't want to break it up. Let it fester and here we are.

Makes me appreciate Bevo even more with decisions on players like Stringer and Hunter.

Yep the Stringer one was a hard pill to swallow at the time. Receiving unders for arguably our second best player seemed nuts and most of us were pissed but in hindsight was absolutely the right call.

 

[The City Boyz]

Yep this Demon downfall was very predictable. Their issues with culture have always been very public and well known but when they were winning and won a premiership no one cares. It isn't until you start losing and internally start turning on each other that it all blows up. Papering over the cracks as you said.

They were so arrogant to just keep head in the sand and ignore because they had a really good team and didn't want to break it up. Let it fester and here we are.

Makes me appreciate Bevo even more with decisions on players like Stringer and Hunter.

Tbf I believe the Hunter exit was player driven (Smiley Boy?), Bevo was less off him than most of the players were

 

[Doggy]

Noble AND Rioli for GC is going all out on half backs

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Tbf I believe the Hunter exit was player driven (Smiley Boy?), Bevo was less off him than most of the players were

I'm not sure if the Hunter stories will ever come out but my "leak" is that I can say that it was multifaceted. The rumours you hear from others it was entirely true, but probably isn't the whole story, there were fundamental professionalism-based trust and behaviour issues with the teammates and players above and beyond just the poor person and poor culture stuff.

It's quite illuminating that there's multiple posters here over the years that have hinted to Hunter stuff saying "if you knew what I knew you would have had no hesitation trading him out" while that poser themselves probably only knew half of the bad stories going on.

 

[Iamspock]

Tbf I believe the Hunter exit was player driven (Smiley Boy?), Bevo was less off him than most of the players were

Which shows that our player leadership group, and player group in general, have put the club first, aren't covering for 'mates', helping make the hard decisions to be made. A strong culture has allowed this to happen.

 

[Doggy]

Which shows that our player leadership group, and player group in general, have put the club first, aren't covering for 'mates', helping make the hard decisions to be made. A strong culture has allowed this to happen.

Is that one of the reasons Bailey Sniff might want out?

 

[CDBulldog]

ok that makes four

I think he may be of Lebanese background.

 

[Dog 36]

Is that one of the reasons Bailey Sniff might want out?

Would like to know why Bailey wants out and why club is happy for him to go.

Where has the relationship breakdown stemmed from?

 

[Iamspock]

Is that one of the reasons Bailey Sniff might want out?

Hmmm maybe. I get the feeling that being team-based is the priority.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

I think he may be of Lebanese background.

Indeed he is.

 

[The City Boyz]

I'm not sure if the Hunter stories will ever come out but my "leak" is that I can say that it was multifaceted. The rumours you hear from others it was entirely true, but probably isn't the whole story, there were fundamental professionalism-based trust and behaviour issues with the teammates and players above and beyond just the poor person and poor culture stuff.

It's quite illuminating that there's multiple posters here over the years that have hinted to Hunter stuff saying "if you knew what I knew you would have had no hesitation trading him out" while that poser themselves probably only knew half of the bad stories going on.

Honestly, the fact that it appears that two rather forgiving clubs have been forced to banish him to the sidelines make me think he has some severe, severe personal demons that will require an enormous amount of time and effort to get him back on track in life

Was it always this bad? Did he have these issues when he was younger?

 

[The City Boyz]

Just incredible that this was a B+F winner and vice captain that’s come to this

 

[Dog 36]

Just incredible that this was a B+F winner and vice captain that’s come to this

And sad

 

[Mojorisin]

Looks like we can cross O’Driscoll off the list. Originally was only getting a one year offer from the Dockers and was looking elsewhere but after returning to the main team the last couple of weeks he has re entered talks with them, they're obviously more inclined to offer him a longer term deal now.

Jon Ralph running with Dogs should throw their hand into the ring for Dan Houston

I believe I said last week the dogs had shown some interest.

 

[Mojorisin]

Pretty sure I flagged it earlier in the year about Noble looking for opportunities elsewhere, shame his chosen the Suns, understand family connections and all but he’d be a very solid JJ replacement.

Although it seems like that’s what Bramble has developed into. I’d still like one more pacy HBF on our list, if Dale goes down (and JJ retires) we don’t have many other options.

He was definitely asked the question by alot of clubs but at the time focused on regaining his spot in the 23. I think the choice to leave has come very late and is purely family based as opposed to the usual family rea$on$.

 

[JohnnySteel]

Houston would make us better. Rotating through midfield and half back. Weapon.

We should definitely have a look if Smith leaves.


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[Dogsfan1]

What about James Borlase from Adelaide ?

 

[dergert]

What about James Borlase from Adelaide ?

Very very very slow.

 

[Bulldogs85]

Looks like we can cross O’Driscoll off the list. Originally was only getting a one year offer from the Dockers and was looking elsewhere but after returning to the main team the last couple of weeks he has re entered talks with them, they're obviously more inclined to offer him a longer term deal now.

I believe I said last week the dogs had shown some interest.

Not the worst thing in the world but it Looks like it will be a quiet trade period for us

 

[Mojorisin]

Not the worst thing in the world but it Looks like it will be a quiet trade period for us

It isn't a bad thing and there are always other avenues to improvement but it is disappointing to miss out on targets especially considering how proactive we were earlier on in the season.

 

[JohnnySteel]

It isn't a bad thing and there are always other avenues to improvement but it is disappointing to miss out on targets especially considering how proactive we were earlier on in the season.

Good draft to load up on IMO.

Especially with tassie coming in.


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[Norm De Guerre]

Tom Barearse

 

[Foxman98]

Houston, Dale and Richards feeding Darcy Marra and Naughts feels a bit unfair for the rest of the comp but I wouldn’t say no if it’s essentially for Baz