Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[Hobdog]

Rumours swirling re: Zak Butters

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Zak Butters

Age

24

Ht

181cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.3

4star

K

7.7

3star

HB

6.7

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

14.7

4star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.9

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.1

3star

D

17.0

5star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

. Watch this space.

That he’ll join Collingwood, Carlton, Hawthorn, Geelong or North Melbourne?


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[King Harold]

Rumours swirling re: Zak Butters. Watch this space.

Cats board been spruiking him to them for a couple of weeks.

 

[WB_]

Rumours swirling re: Zak Butters. Watch this space.

Not to get ahead of ourselves, but unless a player is included, would we have the necessary trade capital to satisfy port with current/future picks?

 

[Foxman98]

They give themselves a chance at least. We can’t even get top 4

Fagan didn't get top 4 this year and won the flag,

You'd have to be delusional to think Bevo is under more pressure than Voss, Goodwin and Hinkley at a minimum next year

 

[Pencil case]

If North do offer up a second for Caleb I think we would take that and run.

Their second rounder is 20 right? In what world would North offer pick 20 for CD.

 

[King Harold]

Their second rounder is 20 right? In what world would North offer pick 20 for CD.

There is no world in the known universe!

 

[TiAn_]

I’m hoping that if Daniel decides to leave we get that trade done early so we can just sit there waiting for the Saints on Macrae.

 

[Unorth]

Their second rounder is 20 right? In what world would North offer pick 20 for CD.

Merely reacting to what was proposed in the article posted previously.


Not likely but they are hardly a competent organisation.

I’m not sure if we’re actively pushing Caleb out and they may have to overpay if they do really want him.

 

[Golden_6]

Their second rounder is 20 right? In what world would North offer pick 20 for CD.

The one where we don’t need to offload a contracted player that they have chased.

Also a world where they gave up similar picks for Dylan Stephens & Zac Fisher.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Daniel had a more down than up year but he's a player who has already reinveinted himself like four time in his career. With his dedication, hard work, and the fact that he can still kick and run well, means that there might be a spot for him somewhere on the field.

The one where we don’t need to offload a contracted player that they have chased.

Also a world where they gave up similar picks for Dylan Stephens & Zac Fisher.

This is the rub - they paid a pick 44 and pick 25 to 19 upgrade (not insignificant) for a Stephens that is still barely getting a game, for an already bad North.

Fisher + a 21 to 17 upgrade went for pick 25

He's not worth pick 20 but North need players who have provably been part and contributed to wins in their team ... to help them get future wins. Daniel has over 100 wins in his AFL career, not many can show that.

 

[VitalDread]

Sam Power​

As the Dogs' list boss, Power has plenty ahead over the next three weeks. There's the Bailey Smith trade talks, with the midfielder keen to get to Geelong but a deal not expected to come in the early stages of the period. Then there's Jack Macrae, who has three years left on his deal but wants to join St Kilda. The Dogs also have Caleb Daniel assessing his future, with North Melbourne keen on him. Midfield replacements are being eyed by Power and coach Luke Beveridge, with GWS pair James Peatling and Xavier O'Halloran in their sights, while the Dogs have also been keen on Port star Dan Houston but don't have the trade capital of other teams in the mix for the two-time All-Australian.

 

[CarnTheScray]

Fagan didn't get top 4 this year and won the flag,

You'd have to be delusional to think Bevo is under more pressure than Voss, Goodwin and Hinkley at a minimum next year

They have finished in or just outside the top 4 for the past six seasons.

 

[Mr. Walker]

The Dogs also have Caleb Daniel assessing his future, with North Melbourne keen on him. Midfield replacements are being eyed by Power and coach Luke Beveridge,​

I know it’s all my fault but every time I read these types of posts with “Power” mentioned I’m like “bloody Port Adelaide sticking their noses in our deals again”. For the less intelligent amongst us he should change his name to “Sam P” for the duration of trade week.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I’m hoping that if Daniel decides to leave we get that trade done early so we can just sit there waiting for the Saints on Macrae.

Especially since it blows away any idea that it's a salary dump if Caleb's already off the books.

I imagine that the salary relief from one of them leaving would be welcome but from the sounds of things it's not desperately needed by any means, and certainly not both of them. I wonder if either of them being traded adjusts our desire to keep the other. I'd be wary of losing too much experience.

 

[Foxman98]

They have finished in or just outside the top 4 for the past six seasons.

And didn’t win it hence top 4 finishes are nice but if you’re not winning it they’re irrelevant,

Bevo is under pressure no doubt but to suggest he’s even remotely number 1 let alone “clearly” is an absolutely laughable take

 

[Philthy1]

Their second rounder is 20 right? In what world would North offer pick 20 for CD.

It could be a pick they don’t currently have. If the other deals involve pick swaps…

 

[DiamondDogs8]

Genuinely believe the thing holding us back is our form at our ‘home ground’ Marvel. Has been pretty poor in the past few seasons.

Does anyone know the dimensions of Whitten Oval in comparison? Desperately need to figure out how to take advantage of our home games.

If Collingwood land Peatling and XOH stays at Giants I really fear for our prospects in this trade period. Considering scratching my eyes out so I don’t have to worry about it.

 

[VitalDread]

Genuinely believe the thing holding us back is our form at our ‘home ground’ Marvel. Has been pretty poor in the past few seasons.

Does anyone know the dimensions of Whitten Oval in comparison? Desperately need to figure out how to take advantage of our home games.

If Collingwood land Peatling and XOH stays at Giants I really fear for our prospects in this trade period. Considering scratching my eyes out so I don’t have to worry about it.

Edit:

Whitten: Arena Dimensions
160 x 130m

MCG:
Arena Dimensions
173.6 x 148.4m

Marvel:
Arena Dimensions
159.5 x 128.8m

 

[Foxman98]

Genuinely believe the thing holding us back is our form at our ‘home ground’ Marvel. Has been pretty poor in the past few seasons.

Does anyone know the dimensions of Whitten Oval in comparison? Desperately need to figure out how to take advantage of our home games.

If Collingwood land Peatling and XOH stays at Giants I really fear for our prospects in this trade period. Considering scratching my eyes out so I don’t have to worry about it.

Oh no we don’t win the trade period then I wish we could be like the bombers and win it every year instead we will just have to hope on natural progression from Darcy Ugle-Hagan Richards Naughton Busslinger Weightman Sanders O’Donnell West Freijah

 

[bobs head soup]

They give themselves a chance at least. We can’t even get top 4

Would a guy like Hinkley swap all his top 4s for 2GFs and a flag?

 

[CDBulldog]

Rumours swirling re: Zak Butters. Watch this space.

This is what I term a heartache inducing post!

 

[CDBulldog]

Their second rounder is 20 right? In what world would North offer pick 20 for CD.

In the land of the kangaroos, anything is possible, no matter how stupid or foolish it seems!!!! Hahaha

 

[Hobdog]

So we’ve had two posts (Peatling and Butters) thrown in here with zero context.


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[cherrypie]

So we’ve had two posts (Peatling and Butters) thrown in here with zero context.


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Don’t need context for some things. Matt Eagles

 

[Mojorisin]

22 is definitely on the table for Daniel but not as a straight swap. Likely 22 and 40 for 32 and Daniel.