Strategy Trade and List Management Thread Part 7 (opposition supporters - READ posting rules before posting)

[doggie dog]

The outcome remains the same.

The fans get some kind of weird schadenfreude satisfaction.

The club gets **** all.

Its not about getting **** all, I think there a few fans that have a right to question how much an illegal deal has been struck by Cotton On, who sponsor Geelong, to acquiring Bailey.

Most doggy fans, and a good % of opposition supporters knew this deal with Geelong started well over a year ago.

If this deal goes down, what to say Cotton On starting a side deal in place of Marra when his next contract comes up?

 

[Dog 36]

Who knows.

Keep in mind that there's two discussions here. Standard playing contracts and the collective bargaining agreement suggest one thing. We can't preventing him from having reasonable access to club staff and medial things that are a directly related to his fitness etc, but we're under no obligation to invite him to the club B&F - that's not written into player contracts (though obviously it's taken as expected that the club would invite every contracted player except possibly in these scenarios).

We should invite him and he should attend to sell the raffle tickets and draw the winner for the hamper

 

[_Mike_]

FYI

we have a 2024 NAB Draft & Trade tracker thread, stickied.

Tag me when we have a confirmed trade/draft and I will update the thread accordingly

 

[grassman75]

Can't see Baz with us at the end of the trade period. If deal isn't done with Cats, he'll have to consider other options, which may work out ok for us.

Get him to the Gold Coast….fits him like a glove

 

[grassman75]

I'm much more worried about structurally getting enough tall timber in especially with Jones and Lobb both older than 30, Jones' form dropping off in the second half of the year, Lobb being no guarantee to be a star there given the limited sample size and the fact he still may be needed in the ruck or up forward.

Midfielders are a bit more malleable. I'm a lot more confident if we were just to say "stuff it, throw Freijah on the ball for half a season and see what happens" then trying to nickel and dime which of Gardner, a young Buss or whatever plays down back.

We saw Garcia and West take it up to Sydney during the season in the mids

Could easily move Freijah, Weightman in there and find a small forward or hope Jones / Clarke come on.

You cannot say no to SDK because we have Lobb and Jones and Buss coming through. It’s too good to refuse if he isn’t cooked in some way

 

[Mr. Walker]

I think people are forgetting about Richards, Sanders, West, Poulter, Garcia, Weightman, Joel, Gags, and Williams. Any mix of these guys can provide the coverage we need for the next year or two.

You lost me at Poulter.

 

[Mr. Walker]

hmmmmmmmm

My you are in a”hmmmm” mood today aren’t you.

 

[LondonBulldog]

Torquay local SDK and a fantastic bloke.

Go hard dogs.

 

[CarnTheScray]

My you are in a”hmmmm” mood today aren’t you.

He is becoming one of those things from the Dark Crystal.

 

[Dannnnnnnnnn]

He is becoming one of those things from the Dark Crystal.

Add "skeksis reference" to the things I never expected to see on the list management thread

 

[Northernsoul74]

I suspect the Oliver to Geelong thing very quickly ends up in the too hard basket for all concerned.

 

[CDBulldog]

Ideal scenario would be that he pivots to a different team, and they are more able/willing to satisfy us

Gold Coast pls. Suits him and works for us.

 

[King Harold]

He is becoming one of those things from the Dark Crystal.

He’s essence deficient

 

[ScottyDogg]

You lost me at Poulter.

You clearly weren’t watching him around stoppage against the blues, cats and swans. Kid is going to make it. Not as an inside mid but can definitely pinch hit around stoppage.

 

[Dogs 13]

We saw Garcia and West take it up to Sydney during the season in the mids

Could easily move Freijah, Weightman in there and find a small forward or hope Jones / Clarke come on.

You cannot say no to SDK because we have Lobb and Jones and Buss coming through. It’s too good to refuse if he isn’t cooked in some way

Second half the first time we played Swans we went with Rhylee, Ryley and Riley for a centre bounces and it looked pretty good.

 

[ossie_21]

How would people recommend we address our midfield issues if SDK ends up being involved in a Smith trade?

I'm a big fan of his, I just don't know that it's the best use of our assets.

I believe the “midfield issues” are a bit overblown. Sure, we need a better pipeline and better options to run through there on occasion, but KPD spots are the hardest to fill and you need to jump at the chance to fill them when the opportunity is there.

Midfielders are easier to find & replace, though it may need to wait a little longer. There are options out there, even if it means taking a stop-gap state league player if concerned about it. Otherwise it just speeds up the development of Sanders & Gallagher in particular, who we played on ball at times during the year.

I’d much rather take something like SDK/Peatling over 1/2 draftees that will be years away, if we can’t land a bigger fish to replace Smith this year.

 

[willofwest]

hmmmmmmmm

All these hmmmmmmmmm VD, I’m not sure whether to be excited or not. I’m hoping it’s got legs.

 

[House_of_Dahl]

Baz is out of contract whereas Oliver is in contract.

If the Oliver to Cats deal happens, we're going to be left with crumbs aren't we?

Except in this situation Oliver's contract is a negative to Melbourne

 

[House_of_Dahl]

So what is the expectation for BnF?

Pretty sure it was reported that Baz has been told he is welcome to attend. Doubt he does though

 

[Dogs 13]

Pretty sure it was reported that Baz has been told he is welcome to attend. Doubt he does though

As my dear wife used to say “someone has to be the grown up”.

 

[Dogs Rule]

Pretty sure it was reported that Baz has been told he is welcome to attend. Doubt he does though

There's always a chance. I've a feeling he can hear a camera click from 20 miles away. He'll be over there like Grease Lightning.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

Think he'd be more of a chance of showing if he played this season

Considering he hasn't played and doesn't seem to care about leaving the club on good terms, I don't think he shows

 

[HK_Bulldog]

If we get SDK, I would put Lobb on the table for a decent draft pick. His value is probably as high it’s ever going to be.

 

[bulldogs54]

Unless we fall in a massive hole next year, Butters would cost 25 and 26 1sts and we'd be getting a bargain

As of next year the future pick trading extends out another year. So they'll be asking for 3x 1st rounders.

 

[doggie dog]

Does Cotton On do a line of safety wear? Just say a certain player does go through to the draft, and that player is a Cotton On ambassador and the club that player gets drafted to has a deal with RSEA and that club has requirements on the gear the players wear in photo shoots while the Cotton On deal requires different brand clothing to be worn, contractually would opening that Pandora’s Box reveal a real can of worms?

Massive conflict of interest for players that have sponsorship contracts across 2 companies.
I thought this got dealt with by the AFL after Judd -Visy and Carltank.