Charliebrow16
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I don't think we need O'Keefe and I hope that we go for picks instead of 28 year olds.
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Trade: Andrew Lovett
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I don't think we need O'Keefe and I hope that we go for picks instead of 28 year olds.
Not all plyers are done and dusted once they turn 30. Look at Crawford. His final series was sensational. Harvey ended up finishing 5th in the Saints B&F.
O'Keefe is 27 and he has at least five good years left in him. He's missed one game in five years, and even then, he was just rested before the finals.
In saying that, I would hope that we dont do a deal for Lovett that involves O'Keefe.
Charliebrow16
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I'd be happy with that.
What do you think it'd take to get pick twelve, from a Sydney perspective?
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I have gone off getting O'Keefe. We should only trade for daft picks. We need to take advantage of this great draft.
Sydney need Lovett more than they need O'Keefe. Your midfield is slow. McVeigh is your only player with genuine pace, Bolton and Kirk are aging and are by no means quick.
O'Keefe, as good as he is, is simply a HFF, we have a plethora of forwards.
I'd do pick 12 for Stanton, but that's not going to happen. Stanton is a way better and more consistent player than Lovett, hence, pick 12 would be considered for him IMO, but even then, it may not be enough.
The Swans were very keen on Stanton but you guys got him with a few picks before us.
Guys, here's another scenario which has been born out of the latest developments which may see O"Keefe heading to Hawthorn for pick 16 and a player (possibly Boyle).
You get picks 16 and 46? (our 3rd rounder)
We get Lovett and pick 23 (your 2nd)
You lose a player who is probably going and gain another first rounder, albeit very late 1st rounder.
Thoughts?
Please no flaming, I'm not here for a shitfight, obviously I'd be happy from a Sydney perspective, but I don't think it's that unreasonable as to be put on your board.
Cheers.
You get picks 16 and 46? (our 3rd rounder)
We get Lovett and pick 23 (your 2nd)
You lose a player who is probably going and gain another first rounder, albeit very late 1st rounder.
Thoughts?
Please no flaming, I'm not here for a shitfight, obviously I'd be happy from a Sydney perspective, but I don't think it's that unreasonable as to be put on your board.
Cheers.
No flaming from me triple -- seems like a reasonable idea.
However, I would much prefer pick your pick 12 for Lovett + pick 23. THink it is much more likely we can pick up quality mid with that pick, even though it is only 4 picks higher.
Dick johnson
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yea, i would want 12 aswell, although, its probably just being greedy
LukeParkerno1
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Not that bad a idea. I think both clubs would be happy with taht deal. We would go after your pick 12 but I'd be satisfied with pick16. Pick 5 and 16 in a strong draft is a fantastic result for us.
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yes, but in terms of quality coming through, it is severy lacking....
High Ryder
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Im so glad some of you guys aren't involved in trading of our players. Pick 23 + Lovett for pick 12? Pfft rather keep Lovett. 23 is still going to net you a similar talented player.
LukeParkerno1
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23 would not get us Tengrove for one, or Swift or a slider like a Hartlett or a Ziebell if he slides a bit. Pick 23 is a bit different to pick 12 in this draft
Agree, I have no idea whywe would trade one of the most talented players on our list to move up a measly 10 places in draft order. 12-23 surely aren't that big of a difference. Lovett is certainly worth more than that
Not entirely. there is barely a difference. and its a big ass loss for us seeing as Lovett is supposedly worth just 11 picks more when he is rather important to our club.
LukeParkerno1
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Lovett's problem is off-field. Now whilst he may be important (I disagree, as he has a relatively low number of possessions a game on average for a flashy mid). I think the club is right for making a stand, we don't need a guy who causes trouble off the field. Lets get that extra 1st rounder for him and be done with it, we can get a flashy player in this draft if we need to anyway. Lovett is not that important.
He is more than you think.
And the flashy player = pick 5 = sidebottom. done
I thought that myself originally, but I'm just not sure that Knights plays those sort of "Sheedyesque" mind games. I think they're serious about trading him.
LukeParkerno1
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He averages less than 20 disposals a game, fact is that is a low number for basically a loose midfielder/forward. I won't be disappointed if we lose him, I'd rather a guy who won't get pissed every night whilst playing for Essendon!
We don't know that yet but by the time our youth do establish themselves (eg. Gumbleton, Neagle, Daniher, Jetta) as quality or experience forwards, O'Keefe will be gone.
I would be stoked if we could land either the Lovett + Pick 23 = Pick 12 deal, or Lovett + Dyson = Pick 12 deal. However, I would be willing to accept less. Here's why:
For the ammount of talent and skill Lovett has, he has shown far too little in my opinion. I don't know whether this is due to our coaching staff not being able to get him to produce the consistancy required at this level, or whether he simply doesn't have it in him. We all like to see him break the lines, use his pace, kick the flashy goals, but if this only happens once game is he worth keeping? In my opinion AFL footballers need to be able to string together solid performances regularly. Andrew just cannot seem to do it for us.
Also, like most footballers, he is replaceable, I believe that Leroy Jetta has shown more talen in his two seasons to Lovett's five. Add to that, we also have Dempsey, Winderlich, Davey and to a lesser extent Reimers. We can afford to lose Lovett, and I doubt we are going to get more for him than this opportunity will present.
Just my thoughts.
Cheers.
For the ammount of talent and skill Lovett has, he has shown far too little in my opinion. I don't know whether this is due to our coaching staff not being able to get him to produce the consistancy required at this level, or whether he simply doesn't have it in him. We all like to see him break the lines, use his pace, kick the flashy goals, but if this only happens once game is he worth keeping? In my opinion AFL footballers need to be able to string together solid performances regularly. Andrew just cannot seem to do it for us.
Also, like most footballers, he is replaceable, I believe that Leroy Jetta has shown more talen in his two seasons to Lovett's five. Add to that, we also have Dempsey, Winderlich, Davey and to a lesser extent Reimers. We can afford to lose Lovett, and I doubt we are going to get more for him than this opportunity will present.
Just my thoughts.
Cheers.
day two: the talk about trading lovett in a deal with sydney has gone down and its more focusing on getting prismall to essendon it seems.
geelong supporters are saying they would give prismall and there third rounder (which is pretty much a fourth rounder) for lovett which i think essendon shouldnt accept
prismall and there second rounder (which is pick 33 i think) should get the deal done although maybe an upgrade from our second round to geelongs first round and prismall could get the job done. i rate prismall pretty highly unlike most other supporters on this board it seems and personally would want him at essendon
geelong supporters are saying they would give prismall and there third rounder (which is pretty much a fourth rounder) for lovett which i think essendon shouldnt accept
prismall and there second rounder (which is pick 33 i think) should get the deal done although maybe an upgrade from our second round to geelongs first round and prismall could get the job done. i rate prismall pretty highly unlike most other supporters on this board it seems and personally would want him at essendon
Lovett is the type of footballer that would be a game breaker in a good team. If he went to Geelong look out! The problem is with a struggling team (like us) he just doesn’t have the consistency in his game. When you think Lovett, think Steve Johnson. Steve Johnson was a nice player but very erratic when the Cats were only thereabouts, since the Cats have become world beaters Steve is a super star.
