Recruiting Trade & Free Agency VIII

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Spoiler: AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY KEY DATES 2020

Draft Combine
Tuesday October 1 - Friday October 4

AFL Grand Final
Saturday October 24

Free Agency Window
Friday October 30 – Friday November 6

AFL Trade Period (Players and picks)
Wednesday November 4 – 7.30pm Thursday November 12

List Lodgement 1
Wednesday November 25

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Thursday November 26 - Sunday November 29

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Monday November 30

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Monday November 30 - Tuesday December 1

AFL Trade Period (Picks only)
Concludes Thursday December 3

National Draft
7pm Wednesday December 9

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
12pm Thursday December 10

Final List Lodgement
Mid-December (tbc)

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
Wednesday January 6, 2021 – will conclude prior to the start of the 2021 Toyota AFL Premiership Season

Spoiler: DRAFT ORDER

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Draft discussion goes here: Draft Watch

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Poll results: Who should stay? | Which key forward do you want? | What would you give up to get Josh Dunkley

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Josh Dunkley

Age

28

Ht

191cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.8

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.3

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

20.7

5star

K

7.0

3star

HB

13.7

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

5.3

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

14.2

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

7.0

5star

M

4.8

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

1.4

4star

?

 

[eth-dog]

This ******g clu...err...player. He can nick right off. Reckon his back worse than he makes out

I think he has value as long as he's cheap.

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

I think he has value as long as he's cheap.

You’ve gotta be joking. Our president has just come out and said we don’t want lazy footballers, we want players with good character who work hard. Jake Carlisle is a genuine flog and there’s is zero chance he’ll be back at Essendon. If we are going to go for an experienced key defender then Tali’s is the man.

 

[ghostdog]

Ben Paton average running bounces: 2.36
Saad and McKenna in the 3.somethings.

The speed article stats interesting. McKenna and Fantasia on that list; one gone, the other seems consistently hobbled.
Guelfi trade bait, and while he can run his delivery is piecemeal.
That leaves Ham and Saad as our quicks.
Can't find any info on his pace.

Interesting, Paton can jump. Tested 4th overall at the 2017 combine for the running vertical jump, behind NicNat in third with (I think) a three cm difference, and 8th overall for the standing vertical jump. He jumped higher than Harry Jones. I thought we were looking at a lockdown small. If he can mark he's sounding like a Jeremy Howe type?

 

[eth-dog]

Ben Paton average running bounces: 2.36
Saad and McKenna in the 3.somethings.

The speed article stats interesting. McKenna and Fantasia on that list; one gone, the other seems consistently hobbled.
Guelfi trade bait, and while he can run his delivery is piecemeal.
That leaves Ham and Saad as our quicks.
Can't find any info on his pace.

Interesting, Paton can jump. Tested 4th overall at the 2017 combine for the running vertical jump, behind NicNat in third with (I think) a three cm difference, and 8th overall for the standing vertical jump. He jumped higher than Harry Jones. I thought we were looking at a lockdown small. If he can mark he's sounding like a Jeremy Howe type?

He's a lockdown small defender

 

[ghostdog]

He's a lockdown small defender

I know, but his contested possession numbers and tackle numbers are average while his contested mark and running bounce numbers are above average. Sounds like he's benefitting from what the Saints are doing up the field.

 

[eth-dog]

I know, but his contested possession numbers and tackle numbers are average while his contested mark and running bounce numbers are above average. Sounds like he's benefitting from what the Saints are doing up the field.

He has 5 contested marks for the year and 6 bounces? Those are pretty standard numbers for a lockdown small defender

 

[ghostdog]

He has 5 contested marks for the year and 6 bounces? Those are pretty standard numbers for a lockdown small defender

Nothing special then?

 

[Duckworth]

Ridley couldn't get a game for us last year

Ridley didn't even look VFL standard last year.

 

[BomberARMY]

Really hope we go after Constable and if we dont get him, then take Brodie.. both have shown they are ball magnets at AFL level and are exactly what we need and shouldnt cost too much.

I'd be happy to trade Raz for Talia if its Adelaide that wants Raz, we need a backman who can take the Gorilla fwds.. would hate to lose Saad, but at the same time HBF/Back Pocket aren't 'too' hard to find. Paton could be a decent replacement. Then if Joey does go (which looks likely if I'm honest) go after 2MP or BBB. My 2 cents..

 

[ILikeCheese]

Think it’s unlikely that Port will take a punt on Raz given they were left at the alter last year, but if on the off chance they do would a straight swap for Willem Drew be a fair trade?

 

[brain taylor]

Really hope we go after Constable and if we dont get him, then take Brodie.. both have shown they are ball magnets at AFL level and are exactly what we need and shouldnt cost too much.

should go for both and take another in the draft

 

[eth-dog]

Think it’s unlikely that Port will take a punt on Raz given they were left at the alter last year, but if on the off chance they do would a straight swap for Willem Drew be a fair trade?

Drew has re-signed. And no, Fantasia is worth more

 

[mickd]

Drew has re-signed. And no, Fantasia is worth more

Are we into Wines? Raz and a pick for wines would be great for us

 

[SherbertLemon]

Raz is cooked. list clog.

 

[citizen-erased]

Think it’s unlikely that Port will take a punt on Raz given they were left at the alter last year, but if on the off chance they do would a straight swap for Willem Drew be a fair trade?

Drew just re-signed.
Port would want a trade request from raz before even entertaining it i imagine

 

[Bjchan13]

Are we into Wines? Raz and a pick for wines would be great for us

Port would probably be looking for 2 1sts or a 1st and a 2nd for wines. I dont think they would rate Raz at anything more than a pick in the 40's at best. 2017 Raz (20 games, 39 goals) id value at a 1st on his own. Wouldnt even want to trade him. Genuine matchwinner. 2018/19/20 Raz (33 games, 41 goals) sad times. Can he do a Jaime Elliot (who missed 2 full seasons of footy at the same stage of his career) and get his body right and bounce back?

 

[citizen-erased]

Port would probably be looking for 2 1sts or a 1st and a 2nd for wines. I dont think they would rate Raz at anything more than a pick in the 40's at best. 2017 Raz (20 games, 39 goals) id value at a 1st on his own. Wouldnt even want to trade him. Genuine matchwinner. 2018/19/20 Raz (33 games, 41 goals) sad times. Can he do a Jaime Elliot (who missed 2 full seasons of footy at the same stage of his career) and get his body right and bounce back?

Problem is his attitude
Heppell played through a broken foot last year
Redman through OP this year.
Hodge went into a GF with a broken ribs.

Seems raz would happily miss with a sniffle.

Heading out and getting his own medicals, seemingly burning port last year. He's an exciting player but Brasher is right. We need players 100% bought into the club.
Gotta stop being such pushovers with the players

 

[Bjchan13]

Problem is his attitude
Heppell played through a broken foot last year
Redman through OP this year.
Hodge went into a GF with a broken ribs.

Seems raz would happily miss with a sniffle.

Heading out and getting his own medicals, seemingly burning port last year. He's an exciting player but Brasher is right. We need players 100% bought into the club.
Gotta stop being such pushovers with the players

Personally id take whatever pick adelaide want to hand over just to be able to move on. Needs to be a fresh start next year.

 

[citizen-erased]

Personally id take whatever pick adelaide want to hand over just to be able to move on. Needs to be a fresh start next year.

Agreed
Same with joey. Has jerked us around too long and honestly im over his attitude.

Saad im cool with. Nothing wrong with a free agent exploring options but applying themselves 100% in the process.

 

[eth-dog]

afl.com.au/news/510958/the-price-you-have-to-pay-all-the-top-trade-targets-and-their-market-value

Of the players linked to us:

JYE CALDWELL (GWS)

Draft picks: Late first-round / early second-round pick
Value on open market: $400,000-500,000 per season

Will soon return to Sydney where he will make a call on his future between the Giants and a number of clubs, headlined by St Kilda with a long-term offer. Caldwell turns 20 next week and has played 11 games across two seasons after being taken at No.11 in the star-studded 2018 NAB AFL Draft. The usual going rate for a gun third-year midfielder is upwards of $350,000 but rivals may need to offer a touch more to get him out

XAVIER O'HALLORAN (GWS)

Draft picks: Mid-to-late second round pick
Value on open market: $250,000-350,000 per season

Broke through for two games this year in his second AFL season but has been a victim of the Giants' abundance of midfield depth. Pick 22 in the 2018 NAB AFL Draft, O'Halloran will have suitors in his home state of Victoria should he wish to return. Entering his third season, it's hard to expect he will get much over the AFL average.

BRAD CROUCH (ADELAIDE)

Draft picks: First-round / end-of-first-round compensation pick
Value on open market: $650,000-750,000 per season

The Victorian is searching for a five-year contract and admitted this week he doesn't have a contract offer from the Crows. He looks to be out the door but now it's about finding a club willing to offer enough that will secure Adelaide a first-round compensation pick (would fall at pick No.2). Five years at more than $700,000 would likely be enough and it would avoid the Crows matching and forcing a trade. Like all restricted free agents, suitors would be willing to pay more for the contract to avoid a trade, however the interesting watch on Crouch will be the length of term, given his history of soft tissue injuries. Geelong has interest and while Port Adelaide have been linked, it's unlikely they'll offer five years.

TOM McDONALD (MELB)

Draft picks: Late second-round pick
Value on open market: $450,000-550,000

Overlooked late in the season with the Demons' finals hopes hanging by a thread, McDonald may need to look elsewhere to progress his AFL career. Has battled injuries and form since signing a four-year extension to 2022 early in his breakout 2018 campaign that netted 53 goals. With two years to run on his current deal, a potential suitor could look to smooth his contract out over three or four years to fit his existing deal into their cap.

PETER WRIGHT (GC)

Draft picks: Third-round pick
Value on open market: $350,000-450,000

The 24-year-old has two years left on a healthy contract he signed in early 2019. Failed to feature at AFL level this season season and was emergency more than 10 times, watching Ben King rush by him in the pecking order and Sam Day get picked as the preferred forward/ruck option. The Suns will entertain offers for their 203cm tall, but suitors will only emerge once Jeremy Cameron, Joe Daniher and Ben Brown have their futures sorted.

CONNOR BLAKELY (FREM)

Draft picks: Late second-round / early third-round pick
Value on open market: $350,000-450,000

Will be open to a trade if suitors emerge. However, expect things to only ramp up closer to Trade Period when other inside midfielders including Brad Crouch and Jack Viney settle on decisions. Blakely, who starts next year at 24, signed a contract until 2022 just three weeks before Ross Lyon was sacked last season. Limited to five games this year under new coach Justin Longmuir.

WILL BRODIE (GC)

Draft picks: Late third-round pick
Value on open market: $250,000-350,000

Both Brodie and Gold Coast are both on the same page that a fresh start would be the best result. Now it's about finding a suitor that will take on his current deal that has two years to run. Like a few other contracted players, he will need to wait for some of the high-profile midfield free agents to make their calls. Essendon is crying out for a big-bodied midfielder, and with Ollie Wines now to stay at Port Adelaide, attention could turn to Brodie.

CHARLIE CONSTABLE (GEEL)

Draft picks: Third-round pick
Value on open market: $250,000-350,000

Looking for a new home but will need to see where the cards fall elsewhere. After seven games last year, the 21-year-old played just two this year with the Cats committing to Brandan Parfitt and Cam Guthrie as inside midfielders to partner Patrick Dangerfield and Joel Selwood. With the Cats considering Shaun Higgins, a number of free agents and having last year's first-round pick Cooper Stephens up their sleeve, it's time for Constable to seek greater opportunities.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

afl.com.au/news/510958/the-price-you-have-to-pay-all-the-top-trade-targets-and-their-market-value

Of the players linked to us:

I'd be pretty happy with any of them tbh. Maybe replace Crouch with Paton though.

 

[MiguelM]

Not sure Raz is worth Wines and a pick.

TBH with his injury problems would be lucky to get even a swap for Wines.

 

[foj1]

Love your optimism, but I don’t think Sydney would part with 3 for Daniher. I’d love that result though.

Love speculating.


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we could have last year plus acquired an additional pick.
dodoro stuffed up huge

 

[eth-dog]

I'd be pretty happy with any of them tbh. Maybe replace Crouch with Paton though.

There wasn't a blurb on Paton.

 

[citizen-erased]

Constable (got a few 3rds) + XOH (fantasia pick) + wright (future 3rd)
Keep saad
Daniher into 7 if we're fortunate
Add phillips and trew.