Mega Thread Trade Period: Lets get that delisted guy. He could be good, yeah?

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Regardless of what happens this year we always need to be looking to the future. Over recent seasons we have been very good at identifying players at other club who can add to our group.

A couple of fringe players I would monitior closely are Ben Griffiths at Richmond and Pat Karnezis at the Lions.

You may remember Griffiths dominating us at the G a couple of years back and he hasnt been able to get his body right. As a result, the Tigers backline is pretty settled is is struggling to get a look in. Blokes his height and skill set don't grow on trees and Lake and Gibbo are closer to the end then the beginning. Litherland and Kelly are doing an apprenticeship but at around the 190cm are not going to be able to play on the gorillas.
Lt's not forget although Shoey will be back next year (long term CHB), it takes a good 12 months to successfully get over a reco.

As for Karenezis, for someone with so much talent he struggles to hold a regular place in a very ordinary Lions side. Is it attitude? Coaching? Development? Based on talent / potential, he has plenty of upside. Can play at either end of the ground and in the NEAFL (yes, I acknowledge sub-standard but Zorko did get drafted) he regularly collects 35+ through the mid-field.
Furthermore, he is a Melbourne boy and is apparently restless up north.

Neither player is going to cost you the farm and might be worth looking at.

Thoughts?
 

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I was sort of hoping we'd pick up Cyril Rioli Mk II* with pick 95 from an obscure settlement 100km from nowhere that we've hidden away from view of other nosy recruiters.

*Preferably with good hammies. :p
I thought we already did that?
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Like the look at Karnezis, just worried he can't get a game for Brisbane. Haven't seen enough of Griffiths to make a call. If he's struggling to get his body right, then might be one to miss.

Probably need to look for the Josh Caddy type player. Good solid young player with some upside who is playing away from home/struggling for a game. Karnezis fits that bill I guess.

I really just want us to draft kids with a bio including this:
Hard as a cats head, finds his own footy, and has genuine pace.
Don't care whether they are in TAC Cup, SANFL, WAFL, TFL, NEAFL or wherever. Just find 4 of them
 
Like the idea of griffiths, good size and moved well in the few games I saw him play. We need to snag another young KPD ASAP otherwise we'll be back to square one again trying to cover holes when lake leaves.
Not sure if we need a play like Karnezis, doesnt really seem suited for any specific role. Where would we use him?
Is it true rioli has a cousin playing in TAC Cup who is a freak?
 
12 months ago Ben Griffiths looked like a very promising CHB/FB in the making, but has since disappeared. In last years forgettable loss to Richmond he showed plenty of potential; Tall, athletic, good defensively, & could kick the ball a mile. What has happened to him since?

At the right price he could be a handy pick-up, especially now that many teams have a mobile 200cm forward. (Tippett, Vardy, Clark, Daniher, Dixon...)

But firstly we must focus on adding to our aging midfield.
 

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Bellchambers is a free agent. Make it happen!!!

Bellchambers would be a big upgrade on the current rucks.

His worth is around Pick 13-16. So we have to give up plenty. For me it is time to invest in 1st round and 2nd round midfield talent. Rucks will just have to wait.
 
I'd love to get Jack Steven. Contracted until 2015 so we wont get him (unless we pay overs) but he's the sort of player we should be looking at. Excellent burst of speed, breaks lines and tackles and has an eye for goal.
 
Don't forget shocking kick!
1 pre-season of kick to kick with Suckling, Birchall, Hodgey, Mitchell et al. will fix that right up ;) Don't need him to kick it anyway just tell him to run in straight lines with the ball and he'll work his magic.
 
I like the idea of John Butcher. Was huge buzz around him not so long ago but has struggled to get a regular game recently at Port. Is a Victorian boy and would come relatively cheap.
 
I'm all for going after Bellchambers. He would be a really good get for us. Don't need a key forward, if anything a small forward would be the only forward we should be considering. Needs a midfielder with dash and ability to win the pill. Whitfield is an option though would be a costly one, might be better to look to the draft first and see what is there in regards to inside mids.
 
We need to somehow upgrade our first pick and find a way to get Josh Kelly in the draft if Buddy stays.
How would people feel about using our first pick and Tim O'Brien to get Josh Kelly....is it a realistic possibility in a Bulldogs trade for example?

Of the established players I think Chris Yarran on a cheapish contract would be handy and a good fit if we were to use him forward.
 
Like the look at Karnezis, just worried he can't get a game for Brisbane. Haven't seen enough of Griffiths to make a call. If he's struggling to get his body right, then might be one to miss.

Probably need to look for the Josh Caddy type player. Good solid young player with some upside who is playing away from home/struggling for a game. Karnezis fits that bill I guess.

I really just want us to draft kids with a bio including this:
Hard as a cats head, finds his own footy, and has genuine pace.
Don't care whether they are in TAC Cup, SANFL, WAFL, TFL, NEAFL or wherever. Just find 4 of them

I agree, if Buddy stays then I don't think we will be too active, Griffiths sounds promising, but I have to admit to knowing little about him, I think our main concern is inside mids with genuine pace.

We need at least 2 or 3 more on our list as our depth in that position isn't the best.
 
Anyone know much about Kristian Jacksh? I know he was highly rated as a KPP for the 2012 draft and ended up going to GWS at pick 12. I hear he's unhappy with the giants. 195cm/85kg and GWS website has this to say about him "Tall forward/defender that is extremely strong overhead, averaging 5.6 marks and 13 disposals for Vic Metro in NAB AFL Under 18 Championships. Kicked six goals vs TAS in an outstanding performance and uses the ball well by foot when in defence. Makes good decisions with the ball, shows excellent vision and is a strong spoiler."
 
Is there any way we could pry that Tom Nicholls from GC? - Looks so damn promising, and they already have bloody Smith Dixon and Gorringe! - Would not mind at all having a crack at him (pending contract status) or Bellchambers.

Imagine having a real quality ruck that contributes around the ground and can be a get out of jail long kick target! Things I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever see again at Hawthorn.
 
Is there any way we could pry that Tom Nicholls from GC? - Looks so damn promising, and they already have bloody Smith Dixon and Gorringe! - Would not mind at all having a crack at him (pending contract status) or Bellchambers.

Imagine having a real quality ruck that contributes around the ground and can be a get out of jail long kick target! Things I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever see again at Hawthorn.


Nicholls is a Melbourne boy and I heard a while ago that he wasn't enjoying it over there, but that might've changed since he's been getting games regularly.
 

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