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Trade period / National Draft 2024
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Sam Lalor, Tom Gross, Isaac Kako have a pretty enticing write up24 IN 2024
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Finn O’Sullivan
(Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Country)
Midfielder | 181cm | 30/05/2006
O’Sullivan is right at the pointy end in terms of 2024 draft prospects and has long been a standout, having taken out the Kevin Sheehan Medal at last year’s Under 16 national carnival. He’s a wonderfully well-rounded talent with few weaknesses; able to take marks overhead, impact on the inside and outside of the contest, and possessing a booming boot. He’s also the cousin of Carlton’s Sam Walsh.
Bo Allan (Peel Thunder/Western Australia)
Defender | 188cm | 16/02/2006
Western Australia may have had an underwhelming Under 18 carnival this year, but Allan was a shining light for the future across all four games. He was utilised in defence and took the game on, but also did so in stints up forward for Peel. Allan averaged 13 touches and four marks across eight Colts games in 2023 and is one of the state’s top prospects for 2024.
Levi Ashcroft (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 179cm | 18/12/2006
It’s hard to shake the tag of being the brother of Will Ashcroft and son of Marcus, but Levi is doing as good a job as any of blazing his own trail. The Brisbane Lions father-son prospect is a midfielder with high level footy IQ and the work rate to match his smarts. It results in monster disposal hauls across all levels and Ashcroft has proven to be a big game player who takes on match-defining moments. He’s now a two-time Talent League premiership player.
Ben Camporeale (Glenelg/South Australia)
Midfielder | 184cm | 21/07/2006
Along with twin brother Lucas, Ben is father-son tied to Carlton for 2024 and has plenty of Blues fans excited. A lean type who covers the ground nicely, much like his father Scott, he has transitioned from wingman to on-baller with Glenelg this season. Camporeale averaged 25 disposals and four clearances per 13 SANFL Under 18 games in 2023 and kicks at high efficiency on his favoured right foot. He was best afield in the annual Futures game.
Malakai Champion (Subiaco/Western Australia)
Small Forward | 176cm | 17/05/2006
There are few more exciting players in full flight than Champion, who is capable of making opponents look silly with his turn of speed or by sitting on their heads for a speccy. The energetic small forward is crafty around goal but also helped connect Subiaco into attack this season by working high up the ground. He booted 22 majors in 14 WAFL Colts games, averaging 15 disposals and five marks.
Sid Draper (South Adelaide/South Australia)
Midfielder | 180cm | 05/07/2006
Draper may challenge to be the top of next year’s crop having compiled an outstanding bottom-age campaign. The speedy midfielder-forward took out state MVP honours at the Under 18 National Championships and broke through for a League berth, all before helping South Adelaide take out the SANFL Under 18 flag. He’s hard to lay a hand on and tested as the most agile player nationwide during preseason. A jet.
Jonty Faull (GWV Rebels/Vic Country)
Tall Forward | 194cm | 01/02/2006
There’s some serious spring in the way Faull plays, and he enjoyed a stellar back-end of the Talent League season to make good on the glimpses he showed previously. Having had stints in the ruck at 194cm, he settled up forward and booted 13 of his overall 20 goals for the year in the last four games. He also bagged four for Vic Country’s Futures and is developing nicely.
Tom Gross (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
Midfielder/Forward | 180cm | 15/09/2006
An explosive type though midfield and up forward, Gross catches the eye with his turn of speed and ability to rise for overhead marks. He’s the type of player who can hurt the opposition by taking metres and breaking the lines with long kicking. Talent League averages of 23 disposals, four marks and five inside 50s saw him recognised with a call up to the Vic Metro Under 18 squad.
Kade Herbert (Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia)
Midfielder | 183cm | 03/04/2006
Another bottom-ager who broke through for a senior debut this year, Herbert impressed as a wing/forward for the Eagles. He also got to roll through midfield at state Under 18 level and has terrific smarts around the contest; able to navigate traffic with clean hands, composure, or an agile step. Herbert’s versatility is certainly a strength and he stepped up to each level this year.
Taj Hotton (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Forward | 180cm | 17/06/2006
Hotton is the brother of St Kilda’s Olli and son of former Blue and Magpie Trent, though is not father-son eligible for either club. The spring-heeled forward offers strong athletic upside and is crafty inside attacking 50 with the potential to develop his midfield acumen. He’s a low-possession, high-impact type who averaged 11 touches and nearly a goal per his seven Talent League games this year.
Zak Johnson (Northern Knights/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 185cm | 24/12/2006
Another top midfield talent out of Victoria, Johnson quickly established himself in Northern’s side and strung together a strong bottom-aged season consisting of 14 games. He averaged 21 disposals and booted 10 goals in that time, while also representing Vic Metro at Under 18 level. Johnson is a clever and composed on-baller who is difficult to pin down and often finds the right option out of a pack.
Isaac Kako (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)
Small Forward | 175cm | 07/03/2006
Kako is like a bee in a bottle out on the footy field, darting in all directions with one target in mind. He’s a creative small forward with great evasive technique and the smarts to spot up tricky options inside 50, or even go for goal himself. The Essendon NGA prospect bagged 24 majors in 11 Talent League games, including a haul of seven, and began to work further up the ground as the year wore on.
Sam Lalor (GWV Rebels/Vic Country)
Midfielder | 187cm | 30/08/2006
A bull-like inside midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Dustin Martin, Lalor has the power, strength, and number four guernsey to back that up. He’s as clean as anyone at the contest and can bring the ball to the outside in powerful bursts, while also proving capable of hitting the scoreboard when resting forward. He’s another who has already debuted for the Vic Country Under 18s.
Leonardo Lombard (Suns Academy/Queensland)
Midfielder | 178cm | 05/10/2006
Arguably Queensland’s top talent for next year, Lombard is already a well known quantity. He turned out once for the Allies and dominated in Queensland’s Futures clash with Vic Country, while averaging 25 disposals and five inside 50s across five Talent League games. Lombard’s hard running and inside-outside balance also earned him a VFL berth with the Suns, playing in the club’s premiership.
Samuel Marshall (Lions Academy/Sandringham Dragons/Queensland)
Midfielder | 185cm | 19/01/2006
Another hard-running midfielder to add to the list of on-ballers for 2024, Marshall has mixed his time with many squads this year. He boards at Melbourne Grammar and thus is tied to the Sandringham Dragons, but also turns out for the Lions Academy. He didn’t look out of place for the Allies or Brisbane VFL side either, picking up possessions at will on the wing or at centre bounces.
Christian Moraes (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 182cm | 08/11/2006
Having missed out on Vic Metro Under 18 selection, Moraes starred in the Futures fixture and has been in incredible form for Eastern Ranges. Hailing from a basketball background, he’s a smooth mover with clean hands who thrives in attacking phases, carrying the ball at speed and with frequency. Moraes averaged 27 disposals in 16 Talent League games this year, including the Grand Final.
Noah Mraz (Dandenong Stingrays/Vic Country)
Tall Defender | 197cm | 20/02/2006
Mraz is among the top Victorian talls in next year’s crop and made good on a late berth with the Vic Country Under 18s. He also built nicely into the Talent League season, taking on roles in each third of the field for averages of 11 disposals and three marks in 12 games. Perhaps most settled down back with stints in the ruck, he’s a mobile type with clean skills and good mechanics at 197cm.
Harry O’Farrell (Calder Cannons/Vic Metro)
Tall Defender | 196cm | 03/05/2006
A versatile key position prospect, O’Farrell has predominantly played his representative and Talent League football down back, but also features up forward when turning out for St Kevin’s College in the APS competition. He only managed five games with Calder this season but earned a Vic Metro Under 18 berth and has some potential to harness as a top-ager next year.
Murphy Reid (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Midfielder/Forward | 181cm | 30/07/2006
While midfield minutes in Sandringham’s stacked engine room are hard to come by, Reid has taken his opportunities there well and made every post a winner up forward, too. He’s a super clean handler of the ball and composed in tight spots, doing his best work at the contest and translating those same smarts around goal. He averaged 20 touches and over a goal per his 10 Talent League games this year.
Jobe Shanahan (Bendigo Pioneers/NSW-ACT)
Tall Utility | 192cm | 02/08/2006
Another Talent Leaguer with serious potential, Shanahan’s greatest strength is his aerial game. The 192cm Moama native has a clean set of hands and leaps at the ball so fluently – traits which translated to playing at either end of the ground. He also had stints in midfield, though one of his best games was up forward for NSW-ACT, where he put on a marking clinic and kicked three goals.
Josh Smillie (Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 194cm | 17/05/2006
Likely among the top handful of prospects for next year, Smillie missed out on the Talent League Grand Final through injury but has done more than enough to prove his potential. The 194cm on-baller is a monster at the contest with his size, clean hands and high level footy IQ, all of which have been on display since his Under 16 carnival with Vic Metro last year. He’s a phenom at Under 18 level, too.
Jagga Smith (Oakleigh Chargers/Vic Metro)
Midfielder | 181cm | 28/01/2006
The headlines write themselves with Smith, who plays up to them with some of the slickest work of any midfielder in the pathway. While juggling school footy commitments, he averaged 30 disposals in 10 Talent League games and seamlessly stepped up to representative level with Vic Metro’s Under 18s. He’s lightly built, but clean and agile enough to take inside ball to the outer without being touched.
Luke Trainor (Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro)
Defender | 193cm | 10/04/2006
Trainor is yet another bottom-ager who cracked Vic Metro’s Under 18 team this year and it’s easy to see why. He’s a versatile type at 193cm who can swing to either end of the ground, but arguably looks best as a third-up intercept defender. Trainor sparks rebounds with his aerial ability and distributive skills by foot, which were on show in consecutive 25-disposal games in the Talent League this season.
Tyler Welsh (Woodville-West Torrens/South Australia)
Tall Forward | 190cm | 15/08/2006
Another club-tied talent out of South Australia, Welsh is father-son eligible for Adelaide next year and will play for the Crows’ SANFL side. He burst onto the national stage with five goals against Vic Country and imposed himself on the SANFL Under 18s competition with 27 goals in 10 games before playing finals at Reserves level. Welsh plays above his height as a strong marking target but is also deceptively quick.
IN THE MIX
It looks like being a bumper Victorian crop, with a few National Academy members narrowly missing the cut for out list. Slick Bendigo midfielder-forward Archer Day-Wicks, Dandenong Stingrays best and fairest runner-up Harvey Langford, and smooth Gippsland Power midfielder/defender Xavier Lindsay are among them.
Lindsay’s Power teammate Ricky Mentha also featured in the National intake and is a creative small forward set to excite, hailing from the Northern Territory. Tasmanian ruck Oliver Dean has potential, as does Swans Academy tall Joel Cochran, who played in this year’s Under 16 championships against Mentha.
It was difficult to overlook Vic Metro Under 18 representatives Nash King and Jesse Dattoli, both crafty midfielders who can hit the scoreboard. Bendigo wingman/defender Tobie Travaglia impressed as the region’s best and fairest as a bottom-ager, while GWV Rebels ruck Flynn Penry has potential to rise the ranks.
Along with Ben Camporeale, twin brother Lucas is right in Carlton’s sights via the father-son rule. There’s also Louie Montgomery and Rome Burgoyne over in South Australia, both of whom are tied to Port Adelaide. Speaking of club-tied talent, Queenslander Tom Gillett looks a likely key position type from the Lions Academy.
The pool looks a little shallow over in Western Australia, but Claremont small Austin van der Struyf has plenty of class which should hold up next year. Talented West Perth tall Kayle Gerreyn impressed as an over-ager at the Under 16 championships this year and may be a smokey for the Black Ducks going forward.
24 in 2024: A look ahead to next year’s top prospects
With the 2023 AFL Draft in the books, it's now time to take a sneak peak at who shapes as the best prospects for next year.central.rookieme.com
When you look at the list above there isn't a lot of KPF talent being mentioned in early draft talk, so for all of us hoping that we could address that area in the draft something drastic is going to have to happen to see one climb into the top 10, where we're possibly going to be drafting in round 1(prior to any trading). Jagga Smith I believed spent time with us across the summer so we'd already have a bit of an idea as to what he brings to the table.
It should also be noted that there are a number of club tied players in 2024:
Levi Ashcroft (Lions)
Rome Burgoyne (Hawthorn/Port)
Ben & Lucas Camporeale (Carlton)
Joel Cochran (Swans)
Tom Gillett (Lions)
Leonardo Lombard (Suns)
Samuel Marshall (Lions)
Louis Montgomery (Power)
Tyler Welsh (Adelaide)
Depending on how their seasons go, points may be needed by these teams to secure these kids which ties in well with our current draft pick haul.
We are well placed to wheel and deal. At a min we'll have two first rounders.
Its criminal that GC has the highest points value (we have the 3rd most just 83 points behind Freo), considering they drafted 4 top 20 academy players. Should've used more draft capitol for these players. AFL says they will tweak the rules so clubs pay more.
Its criminal that GC has the highest points value (we have the 3rd most just 83 points behind Freo), considering they drafted 4 top 20 academy players. Should've used more draft capitol for these players. AFL says they will tweak the rules so clubs pay more.
The AFL will change the rules for the draft points, but I think it will come in 2025.
I think it's because they acknowledge that many clubs made trades in the last trade/draft period based on the current system. I'd anticipate they'll announce the new points/bidding system sometime during August and implement in 2025 so clubs can adjust their stretegy going into this year's trade/draft period to suit.
It needs to change though. In the last draft I think the 2nd round didn't start until pick 29 (it would normally be pick 19 in a truely uncompromised draft).
Funny how Corn has gone silent on the topic of "trading away your future" this time around....
The GC Draft farce rolls on
That means nothing now. Ratings change a lot after the TAC season and u18 champs and draft combine. A KPF in the 30s or 40s now could easily find themselves in the first round or top 10 by draft night.So no good KPF in the top 20
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we need to improve our mids anyway compared to the opposition.
Our kpp stocks are pretty good really
people are getting excited about all our picks thinking we will get great trade for them are going to be extremely dissapointed
39 , 43 , 44 , 62 , 70
We will be lucky to get a pick around 20 for all this junk
we will most likely have 1 top 10 pick and another around 20 and 2 more in the mid-late 20's
39 , 43 , 44 , 62 , 70
We will be lucky to get a pick around 20 for all this junk
we will most likely have 1 top 10 pick and another around 20 and 2 more in the mid-late 20's
We desperately need a good young KPF, KPD stocks are pretty solid.
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No its points value. We have capitol which clubs will come for. 3 x 3rd rounders and 3 x 4th rounders coupled with 2 x 2nd rounders will see us wheel and deal. Some of the 3rd and 4th round picks may not even be used by the clubs they are just needing them for points for their academy or FS players. That's the way the game works.
As an example we trade pick 26 and 39 for a first rounder based on points value. Picks 26 and 39 = 1175 points for say pick 17 (1025) or pick 18 (985)
AFL DRAFT VALUE INDEX POINTS VALUES
Pick 1: 3000 points
Pick 2: 2517
Pick 3: 2234
Pick 4: 2034
Pick 5: 1878
Pick 6: 1751
Pick 7: 1644
Pick 8: 1551
Pick 9: 1469
Pick 10: 1395
Pick 11: 1329
Pick 12: 1268
Pick 13: 1212
Pick 14: 1161
Pick 15: 1112
Pick 16: 1067
Pick 17: 1025
Pick 18: 985
Pick 19: 948
Pick 20: 912
Pick 21: 878
Pick 22: 845
Pick 23: 815
Pick 24: 785
Pick 25: 756
Pick 26: 729
Pick 27: 703
Pick 28: 677
Pick 29: 653
Pick 30: 629
Pick 31: 606
Pick 32: 584
Pick 33: 563
Pick 34: 542
Pick 35: 522
Pick 36: 502
Pick 37: 483
Pick 38: 465
Pick 39: 446
Pick 40: 429
Pick 41: 412
Pick 42: 395
Pick 43: 378
Pick 44: 362
Pick 45: 347
Pick 46: 331
Pick 47: 316
Pick 48: 302
Pick 49: 287
Pick 50: 273
Pick 51: 259
Pick 52: 246
Pick 53: 233
Pick 54: 220
Pick 55: 207
Pick 56: 194
Pick 57: 182
Pick 58: 170
Pick 59: 158
Pick 60: 146
Pick 61: 135
Pick 62: 123
Pick 63: 112
Pick 64: 101
Pick 65: 90
Pick 66: 80
Pick 67: 69
Pick 68: 59
Pick 69: 49
Pick 70: 39
Pick 71: 29
Pick 72: 19
Pick 73: 9
Picks 74 and onwards: 0
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You are no way getting pick #17 for #26 & #39
You would need to be giving 50% more points to the club holding pick #17 to do that trade
Pick #17 (1025 points ) you would need to give you around 1500 points for that team to even consider giving up a 1st rounder
It would be more like #26+#39+#43 for #17
which then leaves us with #44 + #62 +#70 = 524 points and you may get a late 30's pick
Seriously that list is a pure “cat sat on the mat”. All they have done is covered the kids from the AFL Academy and who played u17 futures on GF morning..both of which are a quota selection system, and both of which are terribly biased towards mids.So no good KPF in the top 20
There are some kids not mentioned here who will go top 10 and some taller forwards who will feature strongly for VM. Oakleigh being the club I see the most has 2…Pat Retschko and Charlie Richardson (KB’s grandson).
I was just giving you an example of how it could work to get another 1st rounder which I think it can be obtained with our draft capitol. The nuts and bolts ill leave that to the recruiting team. Bottom line we are in a good position come draft time.
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4 top 30 picks and 5 top 30 picks in 2021 is a decent nucleus, we are just missing that 2 or 3 top 5 players we need. Might be one this year. We would have a second of a free agent leaves on a good contract. The rebuild is pretty well underway then.
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Kevin Bartlett's grandson being called Richardson - surely there is an afl rule that we can pick him up?!
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If Bolton got us 2 first rounders or say Vlastuin or Short got us a high couple of picks we should do it.
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All I want is for us to value good skills and footy nouse
KB should tell his grandson look kid Richmond will draft you so dont go stupid and make yourself a 1st rounder
fake a knee injury or something
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