Trading the #1 pick

[Obeanie1]

Darling + 12 for pick 5 + 28 if GWS get 3 and 5, then on trade it to us for pick 1 and 20

The reason why I'd trade aggressively for pick 1 is to then on trade that to GWS and trump Freo's pick 3 offer.

Pick 1 to GWS - McCarthy (replaces Darling) + pick 7 + 15 to Eagles.

Hence why the offer to Essendon included a second mature player.

It will be interesting what Essendon looks for. They are in a very good position to both improve their list with a mature player or two and still get access to the first round this year and draft a quality kid.

I think this is what they will do. Try and get a required mature player type (say a KP forward) plus still get to draft a quality kid. Then the list can have a real crack at a flag before Watson and a couple of the other older guys retire but still build the list through the draft.

There's a lot of pressure getting the pick 1 right. This year is a strong draft in the 1st round so why not "have your cake and eat it to".

GWS can afford to risk a pick 1 failure or injury. Teams without all those draft concessions need to get it right.

 

[JayJ20]

The reason why I'd trade aggressively for pick 1 is to then on trade that to GWS and trump Freo's pick 3 offer.

Pick 1 to GWS - McCarthy (replaces Darling) + pick 7 + 15 to Eagles.

Hence why the offer to Essendon included a second mature player.

It will be interesting what Essendon looks for. They are in a very good position to both improve their list with a mature player or two and still get access to the first round this year and draft a quality kid.

I think this is what they will do. Try and get a required mature player type (say a KP forward) plus still get to draft a quality kid. Then the list can have a real crack at a flag before Watson and a couple of the other older guys retire but still build the list through the draft.

There's a lot of pressure getting the pick 1 right. This year is a strong draft in the 1st round so why not "have your cake and eat it to".

GWS can afford to risk a pick 1 failure or injury. Teams without all those draft concessions need to get it right.

While that is an attractive proposition, I think a high draft pick will make our list more balanced to have a crack at a flag in 4 or so years. And besides, the GWS and Fremantle trade is just about done. If West Coast want a high pick, Essendon would definitely be interested in a trade for Darling. I don't think that West Coast would be interested though.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

1 and 26 for 3 and 13?
1, 19 and 26 for 3 and 5?

 

[adsla69k]

GWS now have pick 3 but lost pick 7. Freo basically got McCarthy for nothing.

Now Pick 1 deal will be completed tomorrow.

 

[marky53]

GWS now have pick 3 but lost pick 7. Freo basically got McCarthy for nothing.

Now Pick 1 deal will be completed tomorrow.

Pick 1 in exchange for what?

 

[Andronicus]

Pick 1 in exchange for what?

All of the picks, and all of the players.

 

[Purple Suit]

Pick 1 in exchange for what?

Pick 5 & Pick 14?

 

[TheGrizz]

Essendon give Pick 1
GWS give Pick 3, and one of Hopper/Patton

Hopper was top 5 talent last year by all professional analysis (went pick 6) in last years draft, GWS might be persuaded seeing he is probably 6-8th in line in terms of midfielders for them (at the moment) at least
Patton would be the key forward Essendon need to compliment Daniher, again in isolation probably worth pick 5ish, GWS again would need persuading but they could cover him relatively easily with
- Cameron,
- LobbH
- Himmelberg (pick 16 in 2015)
- Finlayson,
- and thats on top of academy rights to arguably the best key forward in next years draft in Jarrod Brander (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...d/news-story/11ce1f497cad5fd779e47ffbe4b61869)

maybe some later picks can be swapped (16-GWS for 20-Ess) or even later than those, but that would be the crux of the deal

 

[#1_pigeonracer]

If you were gws you'd do that?

 

[Andronicus]

Essendon give Pick 1
GWS give Pick 3, and one of Hopper/Patton

I'd be very happy with that, which probably suggests GWS wouldn't be so happy.

 

[Vic pokiesmon]

Giants will get pick 5 from Carlton after trading Marchbank and Pickett and exchange of later picks.They will then trade pick 3&5 for pick one.Giants want McGrath to replace Shaw.

 

[GiantOrange]

I wonder if we can get pick one now or just settle having pick 3.

 

[d-mac3276]

Essendon give Pick 1
GWS give Pick 3, and one of Hopper/Patton

Hopper was top 5 talent last year by all professional analysis (went pick 6) in last years draft, GWS might be persuaded seeing he is probably 6-8th in line in terms of midfielders for them (at the moment) at least
Patton would be the key forward Essendon need to compliment Daniher, again in isolation probably worth pick 5ish, GWS again would need persuading but they could cover him relatively easily with
- Cameron,
- LobbH
- Himmelberg (pick 16 in 2015)
- Finlayson,
- and thats on top of academy rights to arguably the best key forward in next years draft in Jarrod Brander (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...d/news-story/11ce1f497cad5fd779e47ffbe4b61869)

maybe some later picks can be swapped (16-GWS for 20-Ess) or even later than those, but that would be the crux of the deal

Dodoro just took it and ran to the hills with that one

 

[TheGrizz]

If you were gws you'd do that?

Yup,remember I said one of those two players +pick 3
Like I said, both are probably worth around pick 5ish each (in my opinion) in isolation, so it saves having to wait for a potential deal (that may or may not happen) with Carlton including pick 5. (on pick 5, if Gibbs goes to Adelaide pick 13 will probably be involved, and far more palatable for Carlton to give up for Marchbank straight up, but that sort of goes to my point of there being a lot of moving parts so this deal separates it from that)

Further, like I tried to explain, its not like they cant cover either one, Hopper is legitimately 6-8th in line for a midfield spot (Ward, Shiel, Coniglio, Smith, Griffen, Whitfield, Kelly, Scully), and thats before he has to contend with Setterfield, Perryman from their academy this year.

See above for PAtton, between Cameron, Lobb, Tomlinson, Himmelberg (pick 16 2015) and possibly Jarrod Brander next year they can cover his spot.

You have to give something to get something, and while GWS may loather to let those players go, they are players they can ultimately cover if they lose them, meaning Essendon and GWS get great value

 

[Determinant]

Essendon give Pick 1
GWS give Pick 3, and one of Hopper/Patton

Hopper was top 5 talent last year by all professional analysis (went pick 6) in last years draft, GWS might be persuaded seeing he is probably 6-8th in line in terms of midfielders for them (at the moment) at least
Patton would be the key forward Essendon need to compliment Daniher, again in isolation probably worth pick 5ish, GWS again would need persuading but they could cover him relatively easily with
- Cameron,
- LobbH
- Himmelberg (pick 16 in 2015)
- Finlayson,
- and thats on top of academy rights to arguably the best key forward in next years draft in Jarrod Brander (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...d/news-story/11ce1f497cad5fd779e47ffbe4b61869)

maybe some later picks can be swapped (16-GWS for 20-Ess) or even later than those, but that would be the crux of the deal

No chance

 

[Skipper_]

Essendon give Pick 1
GWS give Pick 3, and one of Hopper/Patton

Hopper was top 5 talent last year by all professional analysis (went pick 6) in last years draft, GWS might be persuaded seeing he is probably 6-8th in line in terms of midfielders for them (at the moment) at least
Patton would be the key forward Essendon need to compliment Daniher, again in isolation probably worth pick 5ish, GWS again would need persuading but they could cover him relatively easily with
- Cameron,
- LobbH
- Himmelberg (pick 16 in 2015)
- Finlayson,
- and thats on top of academy rights to arguably the best key forward in next years draft in Jarrod Brander (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...d/news-story/11ce1f497cad5fd779e47ffbe4b61869)

maybe some later picks can be swapped (16-GWS for 20-Ess) or even later than those, but that would be the crux of the deal

Absolutely no way GWS would agree to that. Hopper has shown he can be a gun mid and Patton looks like he's about to explode.

 

[AusMC]

GWS give: 3, 15 & 16 (4413 points)
Essendon give: 1 & 20 (3912 points) OR the low 20s pick they get for Hibberd. (3700-odd)

GWS get what they want, they take Mcgrath at pick 1 to replace Shaw, and don't have to break the bank for their academy kid.
Essendon begin to build a promising collection of low picks to establish an excellent chance at further solidifying their team around the Heppell/Merrett/Daniher core.

 

[SherbertLemon]

Giants will get pick 5 from Carlton after trading Marchbank and Pickett and exchange of later picks.They will then trade pick 3&5 for pick one.Giants want McGrath to replace Shaw.

Shit trade for GWS at face value. Then when you consider the position they'd be in with pick one it's a heck of an advantage

 

[Bostonian]

Pick 5 & Pick 14?

We'll be using pick 5 at the draft.

 

[Bostonian]

Giants will get pick 5 from Carlton after trading Marchbank and Pickett and exchange of later picks.They will then trade pick 3&5 for pick one.Giants want McGrath to replace Shaw.

Marchbank and Pickett aren't worth pick 5.

 

[Gumby2Hurley]

Giants will get pick 5 from Carlton after trading Marchbank and Pickett and exchange of later picks.They will then trade pick 3&5 for pick one.Giants want McGrath to replace Shaw.

(Essendon board like this)

 

[TerryWallet]

1 and 26 for 3 and 13?
1, 19 and 26 for 3 and 5?

Quoted this to say i love the avatar.

Dodoro makes me laugh(at him and with him) at this time of year.

A highlight of the silly season every year.

 

[Bostonian]

What a farce the AFL has become if the 4th finishing side in H&A ends up with the #1 pick in the draft.

 

[Colonial]

What a farce the AFL has become if the 4th finishing side in H&A ends up with the #1 pick in the draft.

Its called trading

 

[BanjoRed]

What a farce the AFL has become if the 4th finishing side in H&A ends up with the #1 pick in the draft.

Similar to how Hawthorn ended up with pick #1 after finishing in sixth 15 years ago?