Travis Cloke

Remove this Banner Ad

TheColeTrain said:
No we just don't want to spend half our salary cap on a single player, not like other leagues that allow you to spend as much as you want.
No player is worth $1 million a year
Click to expand...
Cotch will be worth that very soon!....We havent paid 100% of the cap for a longtime have we?
For what it is worth Cloke is the perfect player for us & the Blues.
But the Blues will have the balls to get this done we havent. It seems our ego's ie: Riewoldt & King dont want Cloke at the club.I have been disappointed by their comments so publicly especially if our Football Department wanted to get Cloke in. It would put the club in a difficult position.
The Blues players including Judd have welcomed getting Cloke.They want to win a Flag!
The thing that disappoints me is Gale has said that we wanted the FTF to partly be able to land a 'Big Fish'.Well what has changed?There is no bigger fish! We seem scared to lose a player out the 'other end'.Bloody hell back ourselves in to keep the team together! Good teams make sacrifices for success.Are our players prepared to do it?
 

Log in to remove this ad.

Dusty Cotch said:
You dont get big fish for peanuts tigs.
Click to expand...
You could also get 2 big fish for the price of 1 if we went in another direction. I was an advocate of getting Cloke if it was for about 750k. Why not wait till Buddy comes out of contract next year and throw a bucketload at him?
 
tigs2010 said:
You could also get 2 big fish for the price of 1 if we went in another direction. I was an advocate of getting Cloke if it was for about 750k. Why not wait till Buddy comes out of contract next year and throw a bucketload at him?
Click to expand...
hahaha! That boat has sailed mate..We could have Buddy & Pav in our forwardline..But let's not go there i am enjoying my saturday arvo...
 
Dusty Cotch said:
hahaha! That boat has sailed mate..We could have Buddy & Pav in our forwardline..But let's not go there i am enjoying my saturday arvo...
Click to expand...
Far from bringing that up but if you're going to throw 1 million at a player at least throw it at the best. As good as Cloke is I don't think he is worth 1mill. I'd be more inclined to add a 6th year at 700-750 and see if that entices him over.
 
Dusty Cotch said:
Cotch will be worth that very soon!....We havent paid 100% of the cap for a longtime have we?
For what it is worth Cloke is the perfect player for us & the Blues.
But the Blues will have the balls to get this done we havent. It seems our ego's ie: Riewoldt & King dont want Cloke at the club.I have been disappointed by their comments so publicly especially if our Football Department wanted to get Cloke in. It would put the club in a difficult position.
The Blues players including Judd have welcomed getting Cloke.They want to win a Flag!
The thing that disappoints me is Gale has said that we wanted the FTF to partly be able to land a 'Big Fish'.Well what has changed?There is no bigger fish! We seem scared to lose a player out the 'other end'.Bloody hell back ourselves in to keep the team together! Good teams make sacrifices for success.Are our players prepared to do it?
Click to expand...
The need difference for a KPF between ourselves and Carlton is massive .
We have the guy who has won 2 of the last 3 colemans and in forward terms is a pup . We also have players like Cotchin Martin and lids who can go forward and wreak havoc .
Carlton on the other hand have drip tray Casboult , Squibbs an Aging Judd and Smurf .
They are one of the 4 clubs who don't have a better KPF already on their list , let them, force them to , pay overs and put them out of the equation on others that come up over the next 5 years.
 
Dusty Cotch said:
Cotch will be worth that very soon!....We havent paid 100% of the cap for a longtime have we?
For what it is worth Cloke is the perfect player for us & the Blues.
But the Blues will have the balls to get this done we havent. It seems our ego's ie: Riewoldt & King dont want Cloke at the club.I have been disappointed by their comments so publicly especially if our Football Department wanted to get Cloke in. It would put the club in a difficult position.
The Blues players including Judd have welcomed getting Cloke.They want to win a Flag!
The thing that disappoints me is Gale has said that we wanted the FTF to partly be able to land a 'Big Fish'.Well what has changed?There is no bigger fish! We seem scared to lose a player out the 'other end'.Bloody hell back ourselves in to keep the team together! Good teams make sacrifices for success.Are our players prepared to do it?
Click to expand...

Can you please elaborate on the public comments? All I have heard from the players on the matter is that they would love to have Travis lining up in Y&B.

Also, on sacrifices, the problem is that with a contract the size Cloke wants, then he's basically saying that everyone else has to make sacrifices, but I don't because I'm me. I don't care for that kind of self-centred attitude. Geelong's model of not paying anyone, no matter who they are more than x amount works for me.
 
pebblestone said:
Can you please elaborate on the public comments? All I have heard from the players on the matter is that they would love to have Travis lining up in Y&B.

Also, on sacrifices, the problem is that with a contract the size Cloke wants, then he's basically saying that everyone else has to make sacrifices, but I don't because I'm me. I don't care for that kind of self-centred attitude. Geelong's model of not paying anyone, no matter who they are more than x amount works for me.
Click to expand...
Jack didnt convince me that he wanted Cloke he said that Vickery should be our preffered option up forward.Which is fair enough,showing support for his current teammate.Im greedy i want Jak,Vicks & Cloke in our fwd line!
King i read online last week was quite strong in not wanting Cloke at our club,i do understand that there is bad blood between Travis & the Clokes due to past incidents some on & off the field.
Cloke is trying to get maximum $ because he is a rarity he is the best contested mark kPF going around who has performed in finals.I am not convinced either that he & Buckley get on that well either.
Having said that i understand why people think it is a risk to spend close to $1mill. a year on him.
Sticks did say he thinks Cloke should stay at Collingwood if we can believe that.Cloke may well stay at Collingwood.
I just dont want to lose to carlton in a final with Cloke being the difference when we could of had him.
 
"Roar Passion" said:
The need difference for a KPF between ourselves and Carlton is massive .
We have the guy who has won 2 of the last 3 colemans and in forward terms is a pup . We also have players like Cotchin Martin and lids who can go forward and wreak havoc .
Carlton on the other hand have drip tray Casboult , Squibbs an Aging Judd and Smurf .
They are one of the 4 clubs who don't have a better KPF already on their list , let them, force them to , pay overs and put them out of the equation on others that come up over the next 5 years.
Click to expand...
Agree in part, but we cant beat Carlton at the moment.It going to be so much harder to if they get Cloke!
 
Dusty Cotch said:
Agree in part, but we cant beat Carlton at the moment.It going to be so much harder to if they get Cloke!
Click to expand...
The reason we can't beat Carlton isn't to do with who has the better forward line . Yes Cloke will improve their forward line , however in turn we look certain to improve our backline and midfield , which IMO will far be a far greater improvement to our side than Cloke would be .
Mark my words , we get Chaplin , Knights, a genuine inside mid with pick 9 , add to our midfield depth with mature players and the tankers will be on the end of a few floggings over the next 5 years .
 
After thinking some more I'm happy wherever he goes, as long as he leaves collingwood.
Watching friday night, I have no doubt that if the pies lose him they are well and truly stuffed meaning no more premierships which would put a big smile on my face and every other richmond supporter.
If he goes to carlton with mick, that too would put a big smile on my face as I can see it blowing up in their face and amounting to nothing. With judd already on the decline and no forward support with a 30 year old waite that misses 99% of matches being their best option, big trav would have to do it all on his own which i don't think he is suited too, I cannot see the move resulting in anything near a premiership.
If he comes to richmond, that would also put a big smile on my face, as I think that is the club he is most suited to with jack providing him with massive support that carlton do not possess and our midfield which will only be getting better feeding them the ball on a platter, it could actually work.

So in conclusion as long as he leaves collingwood, I will be happy! :)
 
was at the game on Friday night watched him closely. Not going to suggest he aint a top gun CHF...but just couldnt help thinking how similar to us they looked structure wise, when we had Richo..not to mention the clincher Trav's inaccuracy when it mattered most. Nafan thought he could do a Spud and lob in the goal square, but when you do that and you have the Gibson's etc of this world patrolling, then its 3 on 1 every time...especially with Dawes doing JS....yeah he kicked 6 and basically escapes scrutiny, but a definite yeah is that 3 of his 6 came in junk time..and 3 behinds came when the pies needed a goal to get them back into the match big time...so on what I saw, I would be very wary about chasing him...because we have been there done that. Of course the caveat on all the above is that we have JR and probably Vickery so our structure would cancel out the triple teaming..

The big negative is that he is a similar player in terms of when he is accurate to say a Hoggy from back in the days. When the pressure is on and the goal must be kicked, you get a fader that slides through for a behind. When the team is 7 down, they go straight through the middle...so the brains trust better understand what they are dealing with here..

Cant fault his work rate though and he had shoenmakers done like a dinner in one on ones..
 

(Log in to remove this ad.)

HF: Newman/Delidio - Vickery/Elton - O'Hanlon/Knights
FF: Griffiths/Edwards - Riewoldt/Astbury-Nahas/King

Rotating Through The Foward Line
Cotchin,Martin,Conca,Grigg,Tuck + #9

there are multiple options and enough Fire power up foward

FB: Grimes-Chaplin-Morris
HB: Batchelor-Rance-Houli

DONT NEED CLOKE !!
 
THE_GUN said:
HF: Newman/Delidio - Vickery/Elton - O'Hanlon/Knights
FF: Griffiths/Edwards - Riewoldt/Astbury-Nahas/King

Rotating Through The Foward Line
Cotchin,Martin,Conca,Grigg,Tuck + #9

there are multiple options and enough Fire power up foward

FB: Grimes-Chaplin-Morris
HB: Batchelor-Rance-Houli

DONT NEED CLOKE !!
Click to expand...
love that backline..bring it!!..
 
THE_GUN said:
HF: Newman/Delidio - Vickery/Elton - O'Hanlon/Knights
FF: Griffiths/Edwards - Riewoldt/Astbury-Nahas/King

Rotating Through The Foward Line
Cotchin,Martin,Conca,Grigg,Tuck + #9

there are multiple options and enough Fire power up foward

FB: Grimes-Chaplin-Morris
HB: Batchelor-Rance-Houli

DONT NEED CLOKE !!
Click to expand...

Nahas is a Good player nothing special
King is getting old
Riewoldt has no real partner in crime and stuggles with doubble teams
Griffiths hasn't proved anything as a forward and would benefit from having cloke teaching him
Vickery cant kick straight and would also benefit from cloke

cloke would take us to finals and top 4
 
Bird Man said:
Nahas is a Good player nothing special-nearly 40 goals this year, I would say he has done ok & with cotchin/martin rotating fills that spot well , But we will get another small foward this trade/draft also

King is getting old- King & Nahas play same position , so see nahas

Riewoldt has no real partner in crime and stuggles with doubble teams - Next year you will find that his partner in Crime will all be another year older and more developed - Vickery will kick 35-40 goals next year

Griffiths hasn't proved anything as a forward and would benefit from having cloke teaching him - Cloke wont be able to teach him anything , cloke is as selfish as they come and Griffiths will become a much better foward than cloke , But a different type of foward

Vickery cant kick straight and would also benefit from cloke- You are kidding arnt you , Vickery is a very good kick , the kid had major injury issues this year and couldnt even raise his arms above his head (try marking that way)

cloke would take us to finals and top 4- Cloke will be good for 1 year to us, after that we would still need to pay him $1 million a year for surplus foward that will be slowly falling behind our existing Fowards
Click to expand...

Unlike many on this Board , I truly rate Riewoldt,Griffiths,Astbury,Elton & Vickery all 22 and under , theres alot to like about our KPF stocks
 
no point in arguing when he wouldn't want to come to us anyway havent been in finals for a decade so we bank on kids who have no choice in the draft and players who couldn't crack a starting line up (Ivan is different (he has a mullet).)
 
Bazzar said:
It will still run until the day Cloke signs with a club. Some here dont want him, but i would bet anything if we did get him, the excitement and hype would be staggering.
Click to expand...
Agree Bazzar. It sounds like the RFC made their one and only offer, which was never going to get the deal done. I now totally agree that his $$ demands could make the club financially unstable down the track and hard to sign up our young guns. But how big would the buzz be if he did come and for once in a very long time we had a genuine CHF leading straight up the middle instead of to the pockets and flanks?..... It's nice to dream!
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Travis Cloke

Remove this Banner Ad

Back
Top