Treatment versus Vaccine

[Kappa]

Yes that sums up the governments response quite nicely.

You know we still don't have a single proper quarantine facility in Australia?

 

[theyellowsash]

Yes that sums up the governments response quite nicely.

You know we still don't have a single proper quarantine facility in Australia?

Didn't you hear the libs? We don't need quarantine of any kind anymore.

Oh wait....

 

[theyellowsash]

But still has serious safety concerns, including "FDA scientists said their review identified several possible risks, including toxicity to developing foetuses and birth defects."

It might be somewhat effective if not requiring hospital but India also found it ineffective in their moderate cases and it's less likely to work as a person has more severe symptoms.

In other words even Gates and Fauci are admitting vaccinating isn't working in their latest interviews.

Boosters are still aimed Alpha strain and have not been safety tested with indications from the UK surveillance data week 42, page 23 "N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination.” or breakthrough infections in the vaccinated seem to elicit a vastly attenuated antibody response to the N protein, compared to infections in unvaccinated people.

New strain seems to be occurring in fully vaccinated.

You have issues

 

[faible]

I saw this yesterday. It looks like molnupiravir is a bit of a flop for Merck, whereas Pfizer's paxlovid seems to be showing promising results. Still feels like there's a long way to go though before a viable single treatment option exists.

Strange because they're both just rebranded Ivermectin right?

 

[faible]

But still has serious safety concerns, including "FDA scientists said their review identified several possible risks, including toxicity to developing foetuses and birth defects."

It might be somewhat effective if not requiring hospital but India also found it ineffective in their moderate cases and it's less likely to work as a person has more severe symptoms.

In other words even Gates and Fauci are admitting vaccinating isn't working in their latest interviews.

Boosters are still aimed Alpha strain and have not been safety tested with indications from the UK surveillance data week 42, page 23 "N antibody levels appear to be lower in individuals who acquire infection following 2 doses of vaccination.” or breakthrough infections in the vaccinated seem to elicit a vastly attenuated antibody response to the N protein, compared to infections in unvaccinated people.

New strain seems to be occurring in fully vaccinated.

Last week it was kind of funny, do you really need to waste everyone's time on your misinformation for another week?

 

[theyellowsash]

Last week it was kind of funny, do you really need to waste everyone's time on your misinformation for another week?

He's still quoting bill Gates conspiracies in response to an entirely different topic. He's so far down the tin foil lined rabbit hole that I don't think he can tell up from down anymore

 

[Lavender Bushranger]

Interesting. Looks as though mutations impact treatment more so than vaccines...

The US Food and Drug Administration has formally restricted the use of antibody treatments that lost their once-considerable effect when faced with the omicron variant, pausing a therapy that had been widely embraced, including by people who rejected vaccinations.

Many health systems stopped using the antibody treatments weeks ago as Omicron surged. And while doctors have welcomed the news of additional treatments like antiviral pills, they say the trickle of pills and other treatments are no match for the geyser of new cases.

 

[My Tilly]

Skip to the 15:20 mark as the professor speaks about vaccination and also the 40:15 mark as he goes into a bit of detail about messenger vaccines.

And although the professor did not say which drug can be highly effective fighting the early onset of covid, I think we know exactly which drug he is talking about.

 

[RedV3x]

Interesting. Looks as though mutations impact treatment more so than vaccines...

Actually medical science says that but people don't believe medical science so it must all be false.

 

[Roby]

Lol

Skip to the 15:20 mark as the professor speaks about vaccination and also the 40:15 mark as he goes into a bit of detail about messenger vaccines.

And although the professor did not say which drug can be highly effective fighting the early onset of covid, I think we know exactly which drug he is talking about.

Lol. He calls them "genetic" vaccines. **** me. How stupid.

 

[DERIBERATE]

Skip to the 15:20 mark as the professor speaks about vaccination and also the 40:15 mark as he goes into a bit of detail about messenger vaccines.

And although the professor did not say which drug can be highly effective fighting the early onset of covid, I think we know exactly which drug he is talking about.

Medical science is communicated through peer reviewed journals ****ing winks now?

 

[faible]

Skip to the 15:20 mark as the professor speaks about vaccination and also the 40:15 mark as he goes into a bit of detail about messenger vaccines.

And although the professor did not say which drug can be highly effective fighting the early onset of covid, I think we know exactly which drug he is talking about.

Malone is a discredited moron.

Whatever he once did in the past, his credibility has been entirely wiped due to the ongoing commentary he's made on vaccines.

edit: Whoops, though it was Malone. Same comments for Clancy work though.

 

[HTT]

Skip to the 15:20 mark as the professor speaks about vaccination and also the 40:15 mark as he goes into a bit of detail about messenger vaccines.

And although the professor did not say which drug can be highly effective fighting the early onset of covid, I think we know exactly which drug he is talking about.

Newcastle Uni says professor backing Kelly virus claims 'not an expert'

The university has washed its hands of views expressed by Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy.

www.newcastleherald.com.au

 

[Lions time]

It is ridiculous to suggest treatments are being ignored. We have had posters on this site who are working on them. It just so happens that horse dewormer isn’t an effective treatment for it.

Hold your “HORSES”…

Ivermectin shows ‘antiviral effect’ against COVID, Japanese company says

Japanese trading and pharmaceuticals company Kowa Co Ltd on Monday said that anti-parasite drug ivermectin showed an "antiviral effect" against Omicron and other coronavirus variants in joint non-clinical research.

www.reuters.com

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[Lavender Bushranger]

Hold your “HORSES”…

Ivermectin shows ‘antiviral effect’ against COVID, Japanese company says

Japanese trading and pharmaceuticals company Kowa Co Ltd on Monday said that anti-parasite drug ivermectin showed an "antiviral effect" against Omicron and other coronavirus variants in joint non-clinical research.

www.reuters.com

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Have you clicked on the link?

 

[HTT]

Hold your “HORSES”…

Ivermectin shows ‘antiviral effect’ against COVID, Japanese company says

Japanese trading and pharmaceuticals company Kowa Co Ltd on Monday said that anti-parasite drug ivermectin showed an "antiviral effect" against Omicron and other coronavirus variants in joint non-clinical research.

www.reuters.com

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Clicks link
Corrected title

Omicron also didn’t exist when I made that post, if it is my some miracle proven to be effective against omicron, a) I am all for it and b) my post is still right

 

[faible]

Have you clicked on the link?

We all know the answer is no.

 

[Gruffles]

the thing is, the "Vaccines" aren't really vaccines, they are treatments too. It's now admitted that covid so-called vaccines do not reduce infection or transmission, all they supposedly do is reduce moderate to severe symptoms, so they potentially allow asymptomatic people to walk around spreading virus which effeectively helps spread infection more.
- oh that's if they are not destroying your health or killing you. Latest life insurance claim figures show an unheard of 40% increase from 2020 (big covid year) to 2021 (vaccines introduced). Previously 10% increase was the highest during an extreme crisis.
40% increase in life insurance claims equates to a likley increase in deaths due to vaccination in the US of about 1 million. Probably that also means at least 4 times that sickened enough to not be able to work - no wonder there is a labor crisis in the US.

If you could point me to a vaccine that stops you getting infected that would be great.

Also, there's been discussion regarding the increase in life insurance claims already... which was not related to the covid vaccine (as pointed out by the life insurance head honcho who stated those figures).

It'd be great if you wouldn't just spam the thread with pointless responses too... it's not adding anything to the discussion.

 

[Gruffles]

Since you guys are happy to be helping murder of children jsut wondein if you are jsut brainwashed or are actual pharma agents?

This comment is just revolting. Hopefully no matter what side of the argument people are on they can agree that this sort of rubbish comment is unacceptable.

 

[Rusty Brookes]

the thing is, the "Vaccines" aren't really vaccines, they are treatments too. It's now admitted that covid so-called vaccines do not reduce infection or transmission, all they supposedly do is reduce moderate to severe symptoms, so they potentially allow asymptomatic people to walk around spreading virus which effeectively helps spread infection more.

How many more times does this need to be pasted?

Coronavirus: few vaccines prevent infection – here's why that's not a problem

Sterilising immunity means that the immune system is able to completely prevent a virus from replicating in your body. Not all vaccines provide this.

theconversation.com

 

[faible]

No, if they were they would be working spectacularly with extremely low toxicity risk.

Bolded is highly questionable. Certainly at a level that would constitute an extremely low toxicity risk.

 

[faible]

Don't assume everyone is like you. thank god that's not true.

I know right?

I'm not a doctor or scientist, if everyone was like me we wouldn't be able to listen to the experts in those fields with their years of experience coming to a majority consensus on things like the benefits of vaccines, and the lack of evidence supporting Ivermectin as a treatment option.

 

[Lebbo73]

I know right?

I'm not a doctor or scientist, if everyone was like me we wouldn't be able to listen to the experts in those fields with their years of experience coming to a majority consensus on things like the benefits of vaccines, and the lack of evidence supporting Ivermectin as a treatment option.

There isn’t a lack of evidence for Ivermectin and HCQ is even more effective. Censorship is the reason and you know this.

 

[Mofra]

There isn’t a lack of evidence for Ivermectin and HCQ is even more effective. Censorship is the reason and you know this.

There is no censorship of the findings. Only a full blown CT thinks so at this point.
This was published on 18 Feb 2022, so there have been ongoing studies:

Efficacy of Ivermectin on Disease Progression in Patients With COVID-19

This randomized clinical trial assesses the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in preventing progression to severe disease among high-risk patients with COVID-19 in Malaysia.

jamanetwork.com

 

[faible]

Only a full blown CT thinks so at this point.

You know who you're replying to right?