MRP / Trib. Tribunal Thread - rules and offences discombobulation

[Alberton Proud]

Hawks are playing Thursday at AO v Essendon.

Short break - even more reason

 

[AdamMarrett]

If the medical report claims any post match symptoms, then he simply is not allowed to play next week

The AFL letting him play with an acknowledged concussion is surely negligent

You can't have it one way and not the other

I don't disagree with anything anyone has said or what you've just said there, I agree 110% with what you've just posted.

I just can't be the only one surprised at what the MRO handed out. Hopefully we win the appeal, I don't think SPP should miss any footy or be fined for a fair tackle that happens 200 times in a game of footy.

It's just the ridiculous rules they have that REH posted, that's what has done SPP in.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Thanks for clarifying that. From what I can determine, none of the above apply to SPP's tackle. So are we all convinced then that he should get off?

Nah the AFL thru the MRO are applying the BS potential for damage factor. That's why they changed the rule after the Burgoyne tackle on Dangerfield on Rd 1 and because Danger got up and played, everyone said Burgoyne was lucky because Danger could have been badly concussed.

So AFL screamed, the look, the look, the look, the potential, the potential and changed the rule and made the potential damage factor even greater than the 2019 rules I quoted.

So there unfortunately is a BS potential damage factor Sam has to overcome.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Not as bad Robbie Muir got it. That long article on ABC website yesterday re a trip when he was 17 in 1971 in Ballarat footy, his white team mate got 12 weeks a few weeks earlier, the umpires conspired to trump up the charge and he got 2.5 years.

Certain players get judged harsher than others. Tough black blokes scare the white legal blokes.

Yeah I read that.

I think we can set the bar higher than "not as bad as Robbie Muir" though (I am sure you agree).

 

[Capital Power]

SPP's case up tomorrow night as Tribunal listening to Lynch's case tonight.

Yeah they were able to expedite Lynch's hearing as his private school headmaster was available this evening. We all know what's going to happen here.

 

[LFC2010]

If the medical report claims any post match symptoms, then he simply is not allowed to play next week

The AFL letting him play with an acknowledged concussion is surely negligent

You can't have it one way and not the other

Been calling for this to happen for years.

 

[Capital Power]

I'm glad we're challenging despite the devil in the detail of the rules REH has kindly detailed. In a climate of fiscal necessity, to willingly put money we don't have on the table to support one of our young guns is awesome. There's no way this happens last year. I like the change

 

[Alberton Proud]

Yeah they were able to expedite Lynch's hearing as his private school headmaster was available this evening. We all know what's going to happen here.

No reference from the PM ?

 

[Arintaraj]

From AFL app
SPP 1 week
Hartlett $1,000 fine
Dixon $500 fine
Butters $500 fine

Tom Lynch punch on Hurley straight to tribunal despite no worse than last weeks 2 hits.

You missed one.
Charlie charged with 2× $500 fines. One for misconduct against Ben Stratton, one for engaging in a melee.

 

[Alberton Proud]

I'm glad we're challenging despite the devil in the detail of the rules REH has kindly detailed. In a climate of fiscal necessity, to willingly put money we don't have on the table to support one of our young guns is awesome. There's no way this happens last year. I like the change

You'd think the AFL might have reduced the cost of challenging a MRO decision this year, you know given everything that's currently happening

But no, the money hungry grubs show their true colours yet again

 

[Capital Power]

You missed one.
Charlie charged with 2× $500 fines. One for misconduct against Ben Stratton, one for engaging in a melee.

From reading the rap sheet you'd think it was a dozen of us punching on with one hapless hawk...

 

[Winganeen]

Of course he's able to protect himself, his arms are free. Not Sam's fault that BigBoy didn't want to dispose of the ball.

The reason that sling tackles are dangerous is that the arms get pinned and the head can't be protected from the turf. That is not what is happening here.

Yep, that's probably swung me. He could have disposed and broken his own fall.

 

[Doctor Feel]

They'll pull the "duty of care" line

 

[Chewy316]

They'll pull the "duty of care" line

Who, the vfl or port?

Sam showed a duty of care ensuring McEvoy's armed weren't pinned (hence he could break his fall), no 2nd action of a sling, did not drive the player into the ground, contact was only to the waist.

The only other duty of care he could have done was to not tackle the player and just let him go through the stoppage untouched and uncontested.

 

[Spadge]

No reference from the PM ?

No but one from Waleed Aly is being written as we speak

 

[Grave Danger]

Wow - even Bickley reckons it's a rubbish charge, not even playing Devil's advocate just for the sake of being a Crows ambassador. Surely it gets thrown out now!

 

[Spadge]

It shouldnt even require a hearing

The AFL should look at the footage, call Port and apologise

 

[Ford Fairlane]

"Mr. Christian give yourself an uppercut"

 

[Duckimus Prime]

I just can't be the only one surprised at what the MRO handed out.

The SPP suspension is hardly surprising to me. Its exactly the kind of rubbish suspension that we should expect after someone in the commentary box questions how dangerous a tackle is by a player that isn't one of the AFL's golden boys.

Just like I'm unsurprised by the silence over Tim Kelly's tackle on Sunday, that had everyone in the commentary box cheering about how awesome it was.

Just as I'm completely unsurprised that the AFL's top 10 moments of the weekend includes Papely throwing the ball into Luke Ryan's face.

On a more positive note, I am completely surprised that Hamish Hartlett hasn't been suspened over the contact with Liam Shiels after it forced the Shiels from the ground. The incident really should've been either thrown out as the contact was unavoidable for Hartlett or resulted in a suspension as forcing Liam Shiels to leave the ground for a medical check really should've pushed it into medium impact.

Even if Shiels was pulling a swift one so a player who is a better set shot can take the kick. He really should've been fined over that.

 

[finbarr]

What next, players getting suspended for a knee to the back of the head when flying for a speccy mark? It really is going in that direction.

 

[Alberton Proud]

What next, players getting suspended for a knee to the back of the head when flying for a speccy mark? It really is going in that direction.

Nah, that's part of the fabric of the game, unlike tackling

 

[MrChow]

What shits me is I reckon there is this kinda discussion when grading incidents in at AFL house.

A) “hey mate, whaddaya think of this one”
B) “Who they playin next week”
A) “ehhh... Sydney”
B) “Give him a week they’ll probs still win anyway”
A) “Yeah righto ...”

 

[Schulzenfest]

You missed one.
Charlie charged with 2× $500 fines. One for misconduct against Ben Stratton, one for engaging in a melee.

Funny thing is if Dixon had been suspended for the elbow on Stratton I wouldn't have been that upset. It wouldn't be consistent with previous penalties (see Lynch, T) and it was relatively minor, but it was still an
unnecessary off the ball act on an unsuspecting opponent and the sort of thing that the MRO could and should be looking at wiping out of the game.

You can't take tackling out of the game. SPP laid a perfect tackle putting McEvoy flat on his arse. The fact that his head happened to whiplash back and hit the ground was entirely out of SPP's control.

 

[Ant Bear]

This was a worse tackle than Sammy's...

 

[Greasyrhys]

No surprise lynch has been cleared, protected thug no doubt.