Banter TRTT Part 15: David KOCH on Epstein List!!!11!!!!!!

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I haven't checked - I was lucky that my Smart TV was smarter than I thought, and I realised I didn't actually need the TTV at all. The Interwebz suggest it may keep working as a media player if you don't connect it to the internet but I think the TV does that as well.

I have Telstra Internet, 2x Telstra phones and 2xTTV. You'd think I'd get some sympathy out of them, but nope. Couldn't care less when I went in to haggle over it. Sod them. I'm sure Aldi mobile is just as good for a third of the price...
Only good thing about telstra internet is the free foxtel rort it beats paying for Kayo and using it's garbage android app.
 

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You log into your telstra account, go to internet>extras and there will be a list of offers/subs, you should have an offer for a free month of foxtel, join foxtel for the free month then cancel on the foxtel site within a few days you still get the full month. When your free month is over just log into telstra again and repeat, it just rolls on with the free month offer over and over.
 
Foreign policy won't change either way. What democracy looks like is farcical.
This is bullshit. The Middle East is a sideshow. Yes, Gaza is a human tragedy, but Ukraine is the existential fight, as to whether Democracy or Autocracy finishes the 21st century as the world's default government type. The Democrats will keep the (half-hearted) support for Ukraine going, whilst Trump will make his first act giving Putin a virtual BJ and free license to trample a democracy. From Ukraine then Moldova and the Baltics.
 
American University professor Dr. Allan Lichtman, known for his perfect election predictions, has maintained his forecast that Kamala Harris will win the upcoming election. Lichtman, who originally made this prediction on September 5, stated that nothing has changed to alter his forecast.

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Issue with his prediction is that incumbent points are heavily weighted.

This isn’t a normal election.
 
This is bullshit. The Middle East is a sideshow. Yes, Gaza is a human tragedy, but Ukraine is the existential fight, as to whether Democracy or Autocracy finishes the 21st century as the world's default government type. The Democrats will keep the (half-hearted) support for Ukraine going, whilst Trump will make his first act giving Putin a virtual BJ and free license to trample a democracy. From Ukraine then Moldova and the Baltics.

The willingness to give up on democracy and the rule of law because it’s ’a little bit hard and messy and doesn’t work perfectly all the time’ is one of the worst things the internet has done.

Autocracy as a short cut just seems attractive to the short attention spannners.
 
I don't see it. Trump will give them the Russian part of Ukraine, possibly a land bridge to Crimea, assure them that Ukraine won't join NATO and that's it. Done. If you do anything else we'll come back at full throttle. Russia ain't the Soviet Union. Idealogical conquering isn't the goal.
The Soviet union was more progressive then modern Russia

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Issue with his prediction is that incumbent points are heavily weighted.

This isn’t a normal election.

Harris 3 points ahead in Iowa.
 

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This is bullshit. The Middle East is a sideshow. Yes, Gaza is a human tragedy, but Ukraine is the existential fight, as to whether Democracy or Autocracy finishes the 21st century as the world's default government type. The Democrats will keep the (half-hearted) support for Ukraine going, whilst Trump will make his first act giving Putin a virtual BJ and free license to trample a democracy. From Ukraine then Moldova and the Baltics.
Kinda curious about this bolded bit, I'd like to see it expanded if you can be bothered.

We're in for a significantly more authoritarian future, whether dressed as democracy or outright autocracy, as climate driven food/water/housing insecurity alongside endless war creates more refugees. An increasingly cruel world more and more distinguished between the haves and the have nots. Anti immigration rhetoric and its associated violence will probably define the rest of this century.

Most of what I read revolves around 20th century US imperialism and the Middle East so I don't really know much about Russia. Not my bag. However I will say the comment about the Middle East being a sideshow is a bit ridiculous, not giving the correct weight to the level of horror and suffering that has played out there in the last half century, largely as a result of imperial folly (Sykes-Picot, Balfour, couping Iran in the 50s, invading Iraq, giving Israel carte blance to pursue its settler colonialist aims, etc etc etc). Dismissing the weight of suffering there and elevating Ukraine/Russia to a level of 'existential' is Eurocentric.
 
Kinda curious about this bolded bit, I'd like to see it expanded if you can be bothered.

We're in for a significantly more authoritarian future, whether dressed as democracy or outright autocracy, as climate driven food/water/housing insecurity alongside endless war creates more refugees. An increasingly cruel world more and more distinguished between the haves and the have nots. Anti immigration rhetoric and its associated violence will probably define the rest of this century.

Most of what I read revolves around 20th century US imperialism and the Middle East so I don't really know much about Russia. Not my bag. However I will say the comment about the Middle East being a sideshow is a bit ridiculous, not giving the correct weight to the level of horror and suffering that has played out there in the last half century, largely as a result of imperial folly (Sykes-Picot, Balfour, couping Iran in the 50s, invading Iraq, giving Israel carte blance to pursue its settler colonialist aims, etc etc etc). Dismissing the weight of suffering there and elevating Ukraine/Russia to a level of 'existential' is Eurocentric.
Leave Balfours out of this.
 
Kinda curious about this bolded bit, I'd like to see it expanded if you can be bothered.

We're in for a significantly more authoritarian future, whether dressed as democracy or outright autocracy, as climate driven food/water/housing insecurity alongside endless war creates more refugees. An increasingly cruel world more and more distinguished between the haves and the have nots. Anti immigration rhetoric and its associated violence will probably define the rest of this century.

Most of what I read revolves around 20th century US imperialism and the Middle East so I don't really know much about Russia. Not my bag. However I will say the comment about the Middle East being a sideshow is a bit ridiculous, not giving the correct weight to the level of horror and suffering that has played out there in the last half century, largely as a result of imperial folly (Sykes-Picot, Balfour, couping Iran in the 50s, invading Iraq, giving Israel carte blance to pursue its settler colonialist aims, etc etc etc). Dismissing the weight of suffering there and elevating Ukraine/Russia to a level of 'existential' is Eurocentric.
The Middle East was (outside of Europe), the most consequential region of the 20th century, due to oil. Both indirectly, via it leading to various Wars (Gulf Wars, funding the various wars against Israel and funding proxy wars against Israel) and directly via the economic effects it had on 20th century society. However Climate change (despite denier rhetoric) is rendering oil less and less a lever the Middle East can pull against the rest of the world. It can be argued the biggest / most powerful companies of the second half of the 20th century were the oil companies. Of the early 21st century it's the tech firms.

I've clearly stated Gaza is a human tragedy. Israel has a callous disregard for civilians and should be stopped being gifted weapons until they worry about them when choosing targets. Though there's a difference there that they aren't deliberately targeting civilians over military targets, as Russia is often doing (go (or don't), watch a video or two of them deliberately seeking out civilians via drones to kill in Kherson, as a 'civilian safari'). Israel is shit, but they aren't systematically raping and torturing civilians in occupied territories.

Why Russia-Ukraine is existential though, is not around how civilians are treated (Israel shit, Russia even worse), but the effect of their wars beyond their wars. If Israel destroyed every part of Gaza and Southern Lebanon, they aren't going to roll their tanks next into Egypt, Jordan or Iraq. If Russia wins they do continue on. What's worse though, is if the West capitulates it green lights other dictators. In a totally 'not in Europe' way, it green lights Xi to invade Taiwan, assuming the West will not interfere. It encourages Kim not provoke further, or even possibly Nuke South Korea, as the West won't interfere. It tells Iran, that get a nuke, the West won't stop you, then feel free to Nuke Israel, as the West won't respond. It encourages every would be dictator, currently constrained by the Rules based Order, led by the US, that it's now open season. Russia-Ukraine is in Europe, but it's effects reverberate globally, unlike Israel-Gaza, which governments like ours, can see (to a degree) and provide aid accordingly. Not enough, but they can to a degree.

The Middle East was one of the last hurrah's of the Europeans in the Empire game, every country got out of that since. Except now Russia is trying to go back to a world where countries can have Empires. Both wars are tragedies on a human suffering level, but only one is global threat to our (imperfect) way of life across the long term.
 
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The Middle East was (outside of Europe), the most consequential region of the 20th century, due to oil. Both indirectly, via it leading to various Wars (Gulf Wars, funding the various wars against Israel and funding proxy wars against Israel) and directly via the economic effects it had on 20th century society. However Climate change (despite denier rhetoric) is rendering oil less and less a lever the Middle East can pull against the rest of the world. It can be argued the biggest / most powerful companies of the second half of the 20th century were the oil companies. Of the early 21st century it's the tech firms.

I've clearly stated Gaza is a human tragedy. Israel has a callous disregard for civilians and should be stopped being gifted weapons until they worry about them when choosing targets. Though there's a difference there that they aren't deliberately targeting civilians over military targets, as Russia is often doing (go (or don't), watch a video or two of them deliberately seeking out civilians via drones to kill in Kherson, as a 'civilian safari'). Israel is shit, but they aren't systematically raping and torturing civilians in occupied territories.

Why Russia-Ukraine is existential though, is not around how civilians are treated (Israel shit, Russia even worse), but the effect of their wars beyond their wars. If Israel destroyed every part of Gaza and Southern Lebanon, they aren't going to roll their tanks next into Egypt, Jordan or Iraq. If Russia wins they do continue on. What's worse though, is if the West capitulates it green lights other dictators. In a totally 'not in Europe' way, it green lights Xi to invade Taiwan, assuming the West will not interfere. It encourages Kim not provoke further, or even possibly Nuke South Korea, as the West won't interfere. It tells Iran, that get a nuke, the West won't stop you, then feel free to Nuke Israel, as the West won't respond. It encourages every would be dictator, currently constrained by the Rules based Order, led by the US, that it's now open season. Russia-Ukraine is in Europe, but it's effects reverberate globally, unlike Israel-Gaza, which governments like ours, can see (to a degree) and provide aid accordingly. Not enough, but they can to a degree.

The Middle East was one of the last hurrah's of the Europeans in the Empire game, every country got out of that since. Except now Russia is trying to go back to a world where countries can have Empires. Both wars are tragedies on a human suffering level, but only one is global threat to our (imperfect) way of life across the long term.
Speaking of the rules based international order, the unilateral support of Israel has shown this idea to be farcical. The UN is completely toothless and its verdicts and motions redundant in the face of US veto. If Israel can get away with a multi front war while engaging in ethnic cleansing under the rules based order, it undermines the idea that there was ever such a thing.

I guess the point I'm trying to get at is that is that under the US there's a farcical idea of rules and order when clearly, for 75 years, the rules have been whatever the US wants to do. Overthrowing democracies is US policy. It does so under the veneer of supporting democracy. Democracy is hard, and it is a better system, but I won't stoop from critiquing it particularly when it is used to run cover for sickening cruelty. I want it to be better.

Foreign policy tends to rumble along more or less the same when they switch parties. I believe the reality of power in America is that the president doesn't have much and is constrained by backroom (deep state?) aims. I mean it's likely that the last time a US president was killed it was a result of a power struggle over foreign policy. This is when I enter 'sounding like a crackpot' territory so I'll leave it at that.
 
Speaking of the rules based international order, the unilateral support of Israel has shown this idea to be farcical. The UN is completely toothless and its verdicts and motions redundant in the face of US veto. If Israel can get away with a multi front war while engaging in ethnic cleansing under the rules based order, it undermines the idea that there was ever such a thing.
No disagreement on the UN being useless as far as enforcing peace. It will remain so under the current model, as most wars have at least one of the 5 veto powers backing a belligerent. Russia isn't going to approve any resolution against them for instance. The Security council needs an overhaul. It should have India, Japan and Africa (as a block) having permanent seats (take it to 19 seats) and removal of the veto. With a sop that resolutions against members of the council requiring no more than 4 votes against (so 15 yes or abstain).

Of course the ideal situation, IMO, would be to create a new global body only open to democracies, where countries could join or be removed, based on meeting clear criteria.
 

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