Recommitted Tyson Stengle [signs 5 year deal with trigger for 6th]

[rapidfire7]

Wouldn't surprise me if the Dogs pivot their 5year-850k deal they had offered to Holmes before he re-signed to Stengle. We really do need another elite small forward. Not sure if it would be even remotely enough to get it done.

You don't think $850K a season is a bit overs? I am honestly flabbergasted at some of the figures being spoken about for him.

The other thing is that he is still a bit of a risk in my view. How is he going to adapt to an entirely new club in a new city? I know he has a good support network now, but I still think there is a bit of buyer beware with pulling him out of Geelong.

Also, never knew the Dogs were iin the hunt for Holmes.

 

[tombomb]

 

[Muddiemoose]

You don't think $850K a season is a bit overs? I honestly flabbergasted at some of the figures being about for him.

The other thing is that he is still a bit of a risk in ny view. How is he going to adapt to an entirely new club in a new city? I know he has a goof support network now, but I still think there is a bit of buyer beware with pulling him out if Geelong.

Also, never knew the Dogs were iin the hunt for Holmes.

I understand that he currently lives in Melbourne now anyway but would need confirmation

Apparently not a big fan of living in Geelong

 

[rapidfire7]

I want him at the Cats but won't be sour on him if he leaves for big dollars. I just hope we use those big dollars to lure a gun young mid to the side. He has been our best player this year and should be leading the best and fairest but if there is one spot where we can afford to lose from it is our small forwards.

Doubt he is anywhere leading the b&f. Miers, Holmes and Z Guthrie come to mind.

 

[Lingsface]

Doubt he is anywhere leading the b&f. Miers, Holmes and Z Guthrie come to mind.

He has been our best player this year in my mind. Definitely top 3.

 

[FootyLad0]

Also, never knew the Dogs were in the hunt for Holmes.

They were about 4th in line.

Hawks, Pies, and Saints were chasing with numbers in the $1M+ range, if Dogs were only offering 850k they weren't gonna get much facetime with his manager.

Even if Max entertained leaving i don't think the Dogs would have been a priority choice. Dogs needs to get their priorities in order, some of their targets positional wise have been just baffling.

 

[FootyLad0]

He has been our best player this year in my mind. Definitely top 3.

Holmes has been our best but Tyson, Messi and Zuthrie are right there with him.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

You don't think $850K a season is a bit overs? I am honestly flabbergasted at some of the figures being spoken about for him.

The other thing is that he is still a bit of a risk in my view. How is he going to adapt to an entirely new club in a new city? I know he has a good support network now, but I still think there is a bit of buyer beware with pulling him out of Geelong.

Also, never knew the Dogs were iin the hunt for Holmes.

It’s definitely overs, but overs is what you have to expect to pay for the best small forward in the comp ( ex Zac Williams ).

 

[Golden_6]

You don't think $850K a season is a bit overs? I am honestly flabbergasted at some of the figures being spoken about for him.

The other thing is that he is still a bit of a risk in my view. How is he going to adapt to an entirely new club in a new city? I know he has a good support network now, but I still think there is a bit of buyer beware with pulling him out of Geelong.

Also, never knew the Dogs were iin the hunt for Holmes.

Not particularly. $850k of today isn’t the same as $850k in two years time.

He’s an AA quality small forward that has a significant part of his career remaining. Stengle is a lot better than someone like Jack Martin who received a bigger contract.

 

[BulldogMuscle]

You don't think $850K a season is a bit overs? I am honestly flabbergasted at some of the figures being spoken about for him.

The other thing is that he is still a bit of a risk in my view. How is he going to adapt to an entirely new club in a new city? I know he has a good support network now, but I still think there is a bit of buyer beware with pulling him out of Geelong.

Also, never knew the Dogs were iin the hunt for Holmes.

We most certainly were to the point of an offer being put forward, but as others have said, it was on the lower end of the scale and not the 1m+ offers being thrown his way at the time.

Dogs needs to get their priorities in order, some of their targets positional wise have been just baffling.

In my opinion, in list order what we need is:
1. Ready made KPD (lockdown both small and large)
2. Winger
3. Small forward

There are a few names being floated around for the KPD spot, winger I haven't heard us linked with anyone yet, and small forward/HHF we're being linked with Stengle and Rayner. But yes, we need more targeted defenders to replace Duryea and give Jones the back up he needs.

 

[TheEscapeClub]

While true, I think it may be more that Geelong historically don't overpay for players outside of the absolute top echelon superstars like Danger, Cameron etc. Would the Cats roll out the chequebook for Stengle? Not sure.

Superb player though, wherever he ends up will be lucky to have him, even if it remains the Cats.

Got Danger for unders and market rate for Cameron.

Stengle, imo, has been our best player this season.

 

[Sphynx]

I understand that he currently lives in Melbourne now anyway but would need confirmation

Apparently not a big fan of living in Geelong

He lives with the Betts.

Anna Betts is his guardian, manager etc.

He spends his weekends helping Eddie train and coach junior football for Ashburton where his kids are.

He will be at a Melbourne club in 2025

 

[TheEscapeClub]

So Geelong didnt get a quality player on massive unders?

And used that cash to land other players?

Reported Cats are offering significantly under the market rate. Again.

So they can continue to attract other players likely on higher deals.

And he is feeling isolated in Geelong.

Reported by whom? The bloke making you coffee in the local 7/11?

 

[Muddiemoose]

He lives with the Betts.

Anna Betts is his guardian, manager etc.

He spends his weekends helping Eddie train and coach junior football for Ashburton where his kids are.

He will be at a Melbourne club in 2025

Yeah I thought that was the case
He’s still very close with a group of Richmond players and ex tigers not that I’m saying he will be at Richmond but just more of his support network living in Melbourne as well

Personally I think saints will be where he lands

 

[dazbroncos]

Unpopular theory but Stengle is actually doing us a favour by liking the highest bidder.

If we cant make his $$ levels for whatever reason, by then saying ill go to ths highest bidder he's getting the GFC the best compo outcome possible - and if its gets Band 1 which i tmight given the numbers on offer in this thread, a pick after ours in Rd 1 aint the worst outcome for us given what he's given us overall.
3 years, AA, Flag component for 53 goals and leaves on good terms with a Band 1 on the way out.

Id rather he stay but as a return, its not bad for a DFA signing 3 years ago.

Buy low and sell high and this seems like that really.

GO Catters

 

[Obeanie1]

Reported by whom? The bloke making you coffee in the local 7/11?

Those who report things related to AFL?

BTW I dont drink coffee.

 

[Obeanie1]

Unpopular theory but Stengle is actually doing us a favour by liking the highest bidder.

If we cant make his $$ levels for whatever reason, by then saying ill go to ths highest bidder he's getting the GFC the best compo outcome possible - and if its gets Band 1 which i tmight given the numbers on offer in this thread, a pick after ours in Rd 1 aint the worst outcome for us given what he's given us overall.
3 years, AA, Flag component for 53 goals and leaves on good terms with a Band 1 on the way out.

Id rather he stay but as a return, its not bad for a DFA signing 3 years ago.

Buy low and sell high and this seems like that really.

GO Catters

Unlikely band 1 at max $800k.

That ship sailed last year.

End of 1st is fair considering he cost the Cats nothing in draft picks, cheap wage and he helped will a flag. I know that isnt a factor on how the secret herbs and spices are calculated but it would be fair when you take in the entire history and situation.

 

[Drunkcat]

If he goes he goes, small forwards are only good if your a top 4 side.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Unlikely band 1 at max $800k.

That ship sailed last year.

End of 1st is fair considering he cost the Cats nothing in draft picks, cheap wage and he helped will a flag. I know that isnt a factor on how the secret herbs and spices are calculated but it would be fair when you take in the entire history and situation.

Theres not much difference between band 1 and band 2 for us anyway.

 

[Back One Out]

Unpopular theory but Stengle is actually doing us a favour by liking the highest bidder.

If we cant make his $$ levels for whatever reason, by then saying ill go to ths highest bidder he's getting the GFC the best compo outcome possible - and if its gets Band 1 which i tmight given the numbers on offer in this thread, a pick after ours in Rd 1 aint the worst outcome for us given what he's given us overall.
3 years, AA, Flag component for 53 goals and leaves on good terms with a Band 1 on the way out.

Id rather he stay but as a return, its not bad for a DFA signing 3 years ago.

Buy low and sell high and this seems like that really.

GO Catters

A 1st round compensation pick would be a great outcome for Geelong when you consider they didn't use a draft pick to get Stengle, nor spend 7 years developing him & paying his salary. A quick turnaround for maximum yield..(I'm surprised Geelong are able to profit so handsomely. There really should be a rule against it. Scrap the FA compo picks, I say.)

The Cats picked Stengle up 3 years ago for nothing as a delisted free agent and (I'm assuming) they paid him peanuts and received an immediate return on their "zero investment" with his 53 goal, All-Australian season. He kicked 3 goals in the 2022 Preliminary Final belting of Brisbane and a game-high 4 goals in the Grand Final thrashing vs Sydney.

A little bit of a down year in 2023, but a return to form this year which has helped create a possible bidding war between rival clubs.

It reminds me a little of how the Cats recruited a 23yo Tim Kelly from the WAFL and got 2 sensational seasons from him before trading him to the Eagles for a bunch of valuable draft picks which helped them to get Jeremy Cameron across from GWS.

The Cats (and Swans) play the wheeling & dealing, list management game better than everyone else. Which is probably why both clubs have made the finals 17 times in the previous 20 years and continue to contend for the flag year after year.

GAGF Catters

 

[The 747]

Seems likely that he's gone. Oh well.

Good return for a DFA.

 

[DopeMaster]

Do UFA’s receive the same compensation as RFA’s in the AFL’s secret sauce recipie?

I was under the impression a UFA attracted a much lower compensation pick, but perhaps the only difference is the inability for the club to match bids.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Do UFA’s receive the same compensation as RFA’s in the AFL’s secret sauce recipie?

I was under the impression a UFA attracted a much lower compensation pick, but perhaps the only difference is the inability for the club to match bids.

Nah they're the same

 

[Pancakes]

Tyson is a dickhead if he leaves the Cats.
He wouldn't even have a career if that club didn't give him a lifeline, and then turned him around to be what he is today.
He owes everything to that footy club, and if he leaves well he truly is a flog.

 

[Puddy]

What would his current contract with Geelong be worth?