Roast U-16 Blocked from Social Media

[TradeDraft]

So it like we have Dictators in Goverment telling us what we can and can't do on the Internet

Won't Work as Kids/People will find a Way around the Blocks

 

[Kappa]

They'll make u check a box to say your over 16 to join the site, a complete waste of time

 

[TradeDraft]

They'll make u check a box to say your over 16 to join the site, a complete waste of time

Think be more than that but still be easy to get around

Probably see IF you are Connecting from Ausralia or Not.

Then just get a VPN to say coming from another Country

 

[danielnajdek]

I actually like that we are trying to do something about kids going on social media especially Twitter and Instagram. 16 year olds and under shouldn't be on them. I just don't know how they make it work.

 

[TradeDraft]

I actually like that we are trying to do something about kids going on social media especially Twitter and Instagram. 16 year olds and under shouldn't be on them. I just don't know how they make it work.

They can’t 100%

Force Kids to more Dodgy places on the Internet like Deep/Dark Web

Parents/Gurdians should be allowed to see what there Kids do on Social Media

 

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[sr36]

I actually like that we are trying to do something about kids going on social media especially Twitter and Instagram. 16 year olds and under shouldn't be on them. I just don't know how they make it work.

It's symbolic of the shambles of current politics. They haven'tbothered to look at how it will work. With both parties just rushing it through and ticking it off due to it's political message, without giving a shit about the impact/non-impact of the law.

 

[Antz]

So it like we have Dictators in Goverment telling us what we can and can't do on the Internet

Won't Work as Kids/People will find a Way around the Blocks

Social media poses serious risks, sometimes leading to tragic outcomes for young teens. Implementing a ban on access for individuals under 16 could greatly reduce these dangers and ultimately save lives.

It’s troubling that some individuals here are politicizing this decision made by the government.

 

[JB1975]

The initiative to limit social media use was led by Rupert Murdoch, especially through the tabloids. They've been running social media horror stories for the last 6 months.

Albanese even went so far as to thank Rupert when he announced the policy, for 'bringing the issues to his attention.

Yes, Rupert is such a solid citizen. But then, if Rupert wants it so bad then maybe some thought about why he wants it seems in order.

A Senate hearing from two weeks ago established that the ban will only be viable if everyone submits to verification in using social media. The implications of this on privacy and data security haven't been considered.

It's half-baked policy being brought to us by a half-baked 'Prime Minister'.

 

[sr36]

The initiative to limit social media use was led by Rupert Murdoch, especially through the tabloids. They've been running social media horror stories for the last 6 months.

Albanese even went so far as to thank Rupert when he announced the policy, for 'bringing the issues to his attention.

Yes, Rupert is such a solid citizen. But then, if Rupert wants it so bad then maybe some thought about why he wants it seems in order.

A Senate hearing from two weeks ago established that the ban will only be viable if everyone submits to verification in using social media. The implications of this on privacy and data security haven't been considered.

It's half-baked policy being brought to us by a half-baked 'Prime Minister'.

The other implication is that if everyone has to be verified, which clearly will have to be the case, then it will probably kick more 80 year olds off social media who can't work it out and get jack of it than teens who will either find a way around it or jump to a platform flying under the radar that hasn't been labelled as social media. It's an election campaign promise masquerading as legislation.

 

[TradeDraft]

Social media poses serious risks, sometimes leading to tragic outcomes for young teens. Implementing a ban on access for individuals under 16 could greatly reduce these dangers and ultimately save lives.

It’s troubling that some individuals here are politicizing this decision made by the government.

Teens be more Likely to go on it as they are told NO so they like Screw You I get on it anyway

Parents need to be more Involved with there Kids about Social Media and not let the Goverment to do everything for them

 

[Obese Arachnid]

I think the ban will work.

I mean I never saw a playboy till I was 18, or had a beer, come to think of it a cigarette either, certainly never drove a car, copied music or movies, as for drugs perish the thought, nor listened to Derek & Clive.

 

[Black_White]

Anyone who wants to defend social media’s unfettered access to the youth around the world really needs to understand the harm it does.
We know about the suicides due to SM bullying.
We know the numbers of under 14’d exposed to hard core pr0n by SM.
We know how misogyny has been spread by SM.
We know that owners of SM have failed to protect minors from all these things as well as hate speech.
And we know that SM owners are only interested in the profit hit they may take from such a ban if it spreads worldwide.
This law gives parents who care the ability to say “no, it’s illegal for you”. And that is a powerful weapon in a caring parents arsenal.
Bring it on. Bring it worldwide.

 

[sr36]

Anyone who wants to defend social media’s unfettered access to the youth around the world really needs to understand the harm it does.
We know about the suicides due to SM bullying.
We know the numbers of under 14’d exposed to hard core pr0n by SM.
We know how misogyny has been spread by SM.
We know that owners of SM have failed to protect minors from all these things as well as hate speech.
And we know that SM owners are only interested in the profit hit they may take from such a ban if it spreads worldwide.
This law gives parents who care the ability to say “no, it’s illegal for you”. And that is a powerful weapon in a caring parents arsenal.
Bring it on. Bring it worldwide.

Perhaps you're right B_W, but it could easily make it harder for parents to monitor. At the moment, as a parent you know what sites kids use and can monitor them. Likely to create more secrecy and push kids to other sites - I can't see it stopping many 13-15 year olds from finding social media platforms to access. Monitoring parents are likely to lose their ability to monitor their kids.

 

[Antz]

Perhaps you're right B_W, but it could easily make it harder for parents to monitor. At the moment, as a parent you know what sites kids use and can monitor them. Likely to create more secrecy and push kids to other sites - I can't see it stopping many 13-15 year olds from finding social media platforms to access. Monitoring parents are likely to lose their ability to monitor their kids.

Parents monitoring their child's phone will still be able to receive alerts about new app downloads, so it won't be an issue.

 

[sr36]

Parents monitoring their child's phone will still be able to receive alerts about new app downloads, so it won't be an issue.

There will be lots of issues. Phone, computer, through a web browser, through an app. Lots of ways to access.

Kids keen enough (most of them) will just go through a VPN and set their location to another country - back on tik tok, snap chat, instagram, etc. Or they'll find another way. And it'll be dodgier with more potential dangers regarding malware and other technological risk.

The tracking algorithms of tech giants are probably a bigger issue in terms of mental health anyway, but that's another story.

 

[emuboy]

Teens be more Likely to go on it as they are told NO so they like Screw You I get on it anyway

Parents need to be more Involved with there Kids about Social Media and not let the Goverment to do everything for them

I agree with this, banning something has the effect of making it more desirable, look at Prohibition in the 1920s in America. Parents will be less able to keep an eye on their kids social media activity, and the biggest danger is driving all of this underground where there are even more dangers.

 

[Antz]

There will be lots of issues. Phone, computer, through a web browser, through an app. Lots of ways to access.

Kids keen enough (most of them) will just go through a VPN and set their location to another country - back on tik tok, snap chat, instagram, etc. Or they'll find another way. And it'll be dodgier with more potential dangers regarding malware and other technological risk.

The tracking algorithms of tech giants are probably a bigger issue in terms of mental health anyway, but that's another story.

My 13-year-old nephew can't download TikTok, Snapchat, and other social media apps because his mom has blocked access to those sites. Since his parents are paying for an internet connection, using a VPN might be an issue for him, and to be honest, at 13 years of age, he has no idea what a VPN is. If these social media laws save a single life, then they've achieved their objective, even if some kids find a way around them.

 

[sr36]

My 13-year-old nephew can't download TikTok, Snapchat, and other social media apps because his mom has blocked access to those sites. Since his parents are paying for an internet connection, using a VPN might be an issue for him, and to be honest, at 13 years of age, he has no idea what a VPN is. If these social media laws save a single life, then they've achieved their objective, even if some kids find a way around them.

It's years 8 and 9 at school. kids on laptops at school sharing tricks. You can use a VPN on only on one device - it doesn't have to go through the whole network.

 

[Antz]

It's years 8 and 9 at school. kids on laptops at school sharing tricks.

Don't the school computers have restrictions, and aren't these apps mostly accessible on a mobile phone?

 

[sr36]

Don't the school computers have restrictions, and aren't these apps mostly accessible on a mobile phone?

Secondary is generally bring your own device. Schools don't set up restrictions on kid's devices. They do on particular websites through the school network - they usually lag behind appropriate sites to restrict though. Only relevant when on the school network, not relevant at home. Also not relevant at school if the kid wants to get around it by hotspotting from their phone internet data. All the big social media sites can be accessed through a webpage as well as through an app. Most kids don't have much actual understanding of tech, but they're bloody good at learning what to do functionally so that they can do what they want on their devices.

https://www.fastcompany.com/2681011/ethiopian-kids-hacked-their-donated-tablets-in-just-five-months

 

[Antz]

Secondary is generally bring your own device. Schools don't set up restrictions on kid's devices. They do on particular websites through the school network - they usually lag behind appropriate sites to restrict though. Only relevant when on the school network, not relevant at home. Also not relevant at school if the kid wants to get around it by hotspotting from their phone internet data. All the big social media sites can be accessed through a webpage as well as through an app. Most kids don't have much actual understanding of tech, but they're bloody good at learning what to do functionally so that they can do what they want on their devices.

https://www.fastcompany.com/2681011/ethiopian-kids-hacked-their-donated-tablets-in-just-five-months

My nephew will be in year 8 next year, and he has a school laptop that is pre programmed. I'm fairly certain that the software on the device only permits access to certain websites, excluding social media. Anyway, like I said, I don't see a problem with these laws if they save one innocent life.

 

[sr36]

My nephew will be in year 8 next year, and he has a school laptop that is pre programmed. I'm fairly certain that the software on the device only permits access to certain websites, excluding social media. Anyway, like I said, I don't see a problem with these laws if they save one innocent life.

You'll never know if they have. How do you measure that? Despite the reporting, youth suicide has actually been on the way down over the last 5 years. Bullying is the big talking point in Murdoch press, but most of the research suggests that it's other factors with social media that cause the majority of the mental health connection.

Yes some schools aren't Bring your own device - heaps are though.

 

[Antz]

You'll never know if they have. How do you measure that? Despite the reporting, youth suicide has actually been on the way down over the last 5 years.

But yes some schools aren't Bring your own device - heaps are though.

Tell that to the families who have tragically lost their children to bullying on social media. You've got the blinkers on. Just one of many examples below.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/catfished-girl-12-dies-after-alleged-bullying-at-brisbane-school/news-story/0d20b9762b3f0a83580e5fc8fb5cc74a

 

[TradeDraft]

Perhaps you're right B_W, but it could easily make it harder for parents to monitor. At the moment, as a parent you know what sites kids use and can monitor them. Likely to create more secrecy and push kids to other sites - I can't see it stopping many 13-15 year olds from finding social media platforms to access. Monitoring parents are likely to lose their ability to monitor their kids.

13-15 year old would try and get around both ways. Banning them and Mointering by Parents

Maybe be told that IF not allowing parents to keep an eye on what they are doing then NO Social Media

Sadly I doubt that would happen