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Auto correct is a bitch.The downfall of Foden in an England shirt needs to be studied. Looks an entirely different player altogether at City.
lol, but yeah. Seemed to be a pretty cynical challenge.
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Auto correct is a bitch.The downfall of Foden in an England shirt needs to be studied. Looks an entirely different player altogether at City.
lol, but yeah. Seemed to be a pretty cynical challenge.
Southgate and England get a lot of stick for always having easy draws, but Italy is an example of how an ‘easy’ draw usually happens. When people look back at this tournament no one will remember it was a good Switzerland team, they’ll just say how lucky England got with who they played in the quarters.I don't think anybody is saying this. Italy were awful all tournament.
It is not a well balanced squad - do they even have a single left sided player?Have they had as much talent relative to other teams? I don’t think so.
CFL conspiracy explanation please. I will keep asking.I watched the 1988 Euros and Holland were magnificent to watch.
Hopefully they win it again in Germany!
Southgate cops a lot of flak. A lot unfairly.Making two finals is pretty impressive.
This is where Southgate becomes an enigma. He does deliver results, but via some of the most aggravating, frustrating and at times, lucky means. He's got his players playing with handbrake on. He picks players for tournaments out of loyalty, or starts players out of loyalty, instead of form. There are so many times where he's played it safe, or reacted to problems, rather than showing initiative.CFL conspiracy explanation please. I will keep asking.
Southgate cops a lot of flak. A lot unfairly.
1968-2016 England won 6 tournament knockout matches. Under Southgate they have won 9 knockout games between 2018-24.
There's a WC SF, WC QF, Euro Final, Euro SF*.
Before GS 2016 out to Iceland R16. 2014 WC bottom of group (no wins). 2010 WC R16 defeat to Germany. 2008 Euros. DNQ. 2002-2006 'golden generation' Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Beckham, Terry etc. Did not progress past QF at any tournament.
*at least.
I think a big difference at the moment is the lack of genuine star strikers these days. Look at Italy, Germany, Portugal, Dutch, French, Spanish, Brazil..all lacking that striker that we always had at big tournamentsInternational football was never high quality. People look back at teams with such rose coloured glasses, especially tournaments from when they had just really got in to football.
The difference is it used to be a lot more naive and open, and there was a big difference in how teams from different continents played. All that made it more entertaining. Now teams play a much more similar style, and the teams ranked in that 30-50 range are really hard to beat. That’s why when a team like Georgia this tournament come along they are so good to watch, because they don’t play like that.
Kadıoğlu is a top player. Represented Netherlands at youth level but now a regular for Turkey.
International football was never high quality. People look back at teams with such rose coloured glasses, especially tournaments from when they had just really got in to football.
The difference is it used to be a lot more naive and open, and there was a big difference in how teams from different continents played. All that made it more entertaining. Now teams play a much more similar style, and the teams ranked in that 30-50 range are really hard to beat. That’s why when a team like Georgia this tournament come along they are so good to watch, because they don’t play like that.
When was the last time Italy, Germany, Holland or Portugal had a star striker? Not any time recently, that's for sure.I think a big difference at the moment is the lack of genuine star strikers these days. Look at Italy, Germany, Portugal, Dutch, French, Spanish, Brazil..all lacking that striker that we always had at big tournaments
Need to bring Giroud on.It looked a handball to me. Germany had a number of chances too that they didn’t capitalise on.
France still without an open play goal at this stage of the tournament is quite the stat. They can only rely on their defensive quality to get them through matches for so long.
England will win if it’s a shootout.Predictions
France 0 Spain 1
England 0 Netherlands 0 - Netherlands progresses
Wouldn’t mind seeing the Dutch win either, mate.I watched the 1988 Euros and Holland were magnificent to watch.
Hopefully they win it again in Germany!
England will win if it’s a shootout.
This is England we are talking about right? Penalty shootout failure is England tradition.
The worst Euros since Euro 96.
Agree to disagree. Switzerland just knocked Italy out, dunno if Italy would be thinking that was a particularly easy match up.
The Euros have always been like that. In 1992 Denmark won it when they didn't even qualify. Greece were not exactly a flair team in 2004. Portugal arsed it in 2016.
As you say, when teams set up similarly they are hard to beat. It relies on star players to make the difference. Williams and Yamal have that for Spain. Mbappe hasn't done much so far but potentially could win games on his own.
Greece get a bad wrap for being “too defensive”, “boring”, the media having a complete meltdown about it and it being 20 years ago so the memories of it have faded. But I watched the matches recently and what I saw was Greece played better than Portugal in the opening match and held their own well in every other match they got a result in. Defensively and in the midfield they were sound and they attacked when they needed. They had good chances to score in the QF and SF outside their goals.
Rio Ferdinand interviewed Greece’s goal scorer in that final recently and Rio said he hasn’t seen a tougher route to a tournament victory than the one Greece faced (including number 2, 3, 11 and 22 (twice) on the World rankings pre-tournament). No one Greece played against played outstanding. They deserved the title.
If England and the Netherlands go to a shootout it will still be going on at the next Euros.England will win if it’s a shootout.