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No Ozil. No party.
I just reckon that Ozil is a liability in the Arsenal set up given our maniacal desire to get forward and it is inevitably he and Cazorla that get busted with the ball.

I think Ozil would be superb coming on if and when we go in front because oppositions would then have to push forward to get something and this would be just brilliant for Ozil who can do what he does best in the front third.
 

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Since some of you have had a go at picking our best side if everyone is fit and firing, I'll have a go as well.
GKP.Ospina.
RB.Chambers. CH.Merstesacker. CH.Koscielny. LB.Monreal
The two in front of the back 4: Flamini as the stay-at-home deepest & Diaby to work the center-circle.
The next three from right to left: Walcott, Ramsey, Sanchez.
Center forward: Welbeck.

Reserves:
GKP Szczesny
ST. Giroud
M. Wilshere
M. Arteta
M. Ozil
M. Oxlade-Chamberlain
D. Debuchy

Genuine question, why are we playing Ramsey so high up the pitch? He was at his best last season as a box to box and charging into the final third from deep. We're overstocked for number 10s then, Ramsey, Ozil, Santi, Rosicky (remember him?).

Anyway, Ozil should be our starting number 10. That's why we paid £42m for him, but instead we significantly weaken our game by pushing him unnecessarily to the left.


You shoo with that positivity! Go on now, get!

I think Man City and Chelsea are too strong for us so I expect loses away to both of them.
Two draws at home are my minimum expectation in the return leg.

Manchester United we should be looking at 6 points from.
Everton should now be 4
Tottenham should be 6
Liverpool should be 4

We only finished 7 points behind Man City last season. Turn one of losses to United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City, Everton into a win then pick up a win against the shit teams that we should never have lost to (Aston villa) and its a one point gap.

The league will be won and lost on picking up maximum points against the other 16 middle/lower teams.

Don't believe we'll take 6 and 4 against Spurs and Liverpool respectively. Thinking we'll lose the away games but hold our own at home. United simply we must beat, everyone else did last season it seems except us. Those ***** took 4 points from us.
 
Genuine question, why are we playing Ramsey so high up the pitch? He was at his best last season as a box to box and charging into the final third from deep. We're overstocked for number 10s then, Ramsey, Ozil, Santi, Rosicky (remember him?).

Anyway, Ozil should be our starting number 10. That's why we paid £42m for him, but instead we significantly weaken our game by pushing him unnecessarily to the left.




Don't believe we'll take 6 and 4 against Spurs and Liverpool respectively. Thinking we'll lose the away games but hold our own at home. United simply we must beat, everyone else did last season it seems except us. Those ***** took 4 points from us.
I feel that Ramsey needs to be centrally up and down the pitch(box-to-box) and I reckon that a player of Diaby's intelligence and skill would be a good foil for Ramsey in that through that central area, Flamini would lie deep and Ramsey and Diaby could dominate in front of him.

I see Walcott and Sanchez as the supporting cast to Welbeck. I set my team up in Wenger's favoured 4-2-3-1 but my thoughts on Ramsey aren't to play as a #10 but more of a tandem with Diaby withdrawn from Sanchez and Walcott who would effectively be "joint" #10's.
In effect, I would like to see a change to a 4-1-2-2-1.

I see Ozil as battling it out with Walcott and Sanchez for one of those positions. The way we play, I can't handle Ozil in a "true" midfield spot because he is easily dispossessed/gives the ball away far to often in those critical areas which puts our side under immense pressure. I understand that we paid 42 million pound for him but in any position anywhere near the center line, he's not worth a penny.
 
Ps. I am an admirer of Rosicky as well Glen and would love to see him in the starting line up but where and for whom and if he doesn't start, I would rather have an impact player on the bench than him. I find that very hard and sad to say.
 
Ps. I am an admirer of Rosicky as well Glen and would love to see him in the starting line up but where and for whom and if he doesn't start, I would rather have an impact player on the bench than him. I find that very hard and sad to say.

It's disappointing that he hasn't even featured yet. Not even from the bench. His tenacity and creativity would've been very handy in the last 20 minutes or so again Leicester, instead we had blokes across the pitch who looked like they don't give a heck. Zero urgency and just let the game slide past them.

You know what you get with Rosicky. We'd be better off trying him wide than Ozil if that's what Wenger is intent on persisting with.
 
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International breaks after the World cup and during the first month of the League make me want to cut myself.

I've been filling the void by scouting Danny Welbeck's highlights. I'm choosing optimism, and we'll have the fastest final third with Sanchez, Welbz and Theo (or Ox), but our current game style of passing the ball around the box incessantly trying to conjure the perfect move will deny our speedsters the space they'll need as the opposition can just sit back and crowd the box.

I hope we're able to be a lot more bold and decisive going forward now we've got a speedster in Welbeck and not a hold-up player (Giroud) leading the line.
 
I don't rate Welbeck highly but i'm like you and going to be optimistic!

He has pace, seemingly a decent finisher and looks like he has good movement and positioning.

I'm not going to rip on Sanogo because clearly he's a talented young guy trying to do his best but just isn't ready yet, so Welbeck is a much better option.

A little annoyed that Welbeck has joined and then had to piss of straight away for national duty. The team is going to be very underdone for the City clash.

I wont be too worried if he doesn't score a hat-trick against them.
 
Very little time for Welbeck to train and integrate with his new teammates prior to the City game. Whilst I would like him to start as striker, think it's more likely he'll play off the bench.

Is Monreal still in the squad for Spain? Cazorla started the other night and played 80 odd minutes.
 
Very little time for Welbeck to train and integrate with his new teammates prior to the City game. Whilst I would like him to start as striker, think it's more likely he'll play off the bench.

Is Monreal still in the squad for Spain? Cazorla started the other night and played 80 odd minutes.

Nope.
 
Could we even get him on loan at this stage of the season?

They still have 2 months of league games + finals I think?

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/340831.html

Normally most of the writers at ESPN are cockbags, but this piece is pretty good.

"Ferguson mentioned the difference between his and Wenger's perception of forwards in his autobiography when discussing Van Nistelrooy, a player who had a somewhat fractious relationship with Arsenal. "Arsene had a thing about Van Nistelrooy," Ferguson said. "I remember him saying he'd had a chance to sign Ruud but had decided he was not good enough to play for Arsenal. I agreed with him in the sense that he may not have been a great footballer. But he was a great goalscorer."

Welbeck is the opposite - a great footballer, but not a great goal scorer.

Robin van Persie, of course, is another example of player who has represented both Wenger's Arsenal and Ferguson's United. His journey supports the theory. At Arsenal he was a creative No. 10, and later a false nine. At Manchester United he was a ruthless No. 9: Wenger wants more artistry and vision, Ferguson wanted goals.

It would be ironic if Welbeck developed into a pure goal scorer under Wenger, but realistically he doesn't need to. Van Persie's final season was the antithesis of what Wenger wants: it was ultra-reliance upon one player, whereas Wenger wants goals from a variety of sources. Welbeck will have a responsibility to score, but so will Theo Walcott, Alexis Sanchez, Giroud, Lukas Podolski, Aaron Ramsey and Mesut Ozil."
 
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