Updated VFL/AFL premiership tally

[Fadge]

Performance metric of each club measured against time in the competition. Source AFL tables.

Metrics

Flags
GS's
Finals won
Finals played.

Metric divided by years in the comp, for example Adelaide have 2 flags divided by 33 years gives them an average of 0.0606 premierships per year.

Just my opinion but these metrics separate those on equal number of flags with equal time in the competition.

	Flags	GF	Finals Won	Finals played	Years in comp	Total averages
Ade	2	3	18	36	33
Averages	0.0606	0.0909	0.5454	1.0909		1.7878
Bris	4	5	20	32	37
Averages	0.108	0.1351	0.54054	0.8648		1.6484
Collingwood	16	43	84	190	127
Averages	0.1259	0.3385	0.6614	1.496		2.6218
Carlton	16	29	67	143	127
Averages	0.1259	0.2283	0.5275	1.1259		2.0076
Essendon	16	28	69	132	127
Averages	0.1259	0.2204	0.5433	1.0393		1.9289
Fremantle	0	1	7	17	29
Averages	0	0.0344	0.2413	0.5862		0.8619
Geelong	10	19	60	134	127
Averages	0.0787	0.1496	0.4274	1.0551		1.7108
GC	0	0	0	0	13
Averages	0	0	0	0		0
GWS	0	1	9	18	12
Averages	0	0.0833	0.75	1.5		2.3333
Hawthorn	13	19	54	87	99
Averages	0.1313	0.1919	0.5454	0.8787		1.7473
Melbourne	13	18	54	94	127
Averages	0.1023	0.1417	0.4251	0.7401		1.4092
North Melbourne	4	9	35	75	99
Averages	0.0404	0.0909	0.3535	0.7575		1.2423
Port Adelaide	1	2	14	30	27
Averages	0.037	0.074	0.05185	1.1111		1.2739
Ricmond	13	24	56	94	116
Averages	0.112	0.2068	0.4827	0.8534		1.6549
St Kilda	1	7	22	55	127
Averages	0.0078	0.0551	0.1732	0.433		0.6691
Syd / Sth Melb	5	19	44	97	127
Averages	0.0393	0.1496	0.3464	0.7637		1.299
West Coast	4	7	26	55	37
Averages	0.1081	0.1891	0.7027	1.4864		2.4863
WB / Footscray	2	4	21	57	99
Averages	0.0202	0.0404	0.2121	0.5757		0.8484
Fitzroy	8	13	34	59	127
	0.0629	0.1023	0.2677	0.4645		0.8974

So that settles it and confirms what everyone already knows.

1. Collingwood
2. West Coast

The Rest.

 

[Carringbush2010]

So that settles it and confirms what everyone already knows.

1. Collingwood
2. West Coast

The Rest.

Well the blues and gws are right up there, despite gws not winning a flag.

If you're hitting the two mark, you're doing pretty good.

 

[Fadge]

Well the blues and gws are right up there, despite gws not winning a flag.

If you're hitting the two mark, you're doing pretty good.

So if you're closer to 3 than 2, you're a Powerhouse?

 

[Carringbush2010]

So if you're closer to 3 than 2, you're a Powerhouse?

Well yeah I guess.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

So that settles it and confirms what everyone already knows.

1. Collingwood
2. West Coast

The Rest.

I'm not so sure. If I'm reading that table correctly, it's counting playing a final as the same value as winning a flag. Surely, that's not the way to do it.

 

[rapidfire7]

Hang on.. what about the forgotten years? Should we not be starting from 1870? The real start date?




* current up to the end of 2022

 

[Carringbush2010]

I'm not so sure. If I'm reading that table correctly, it's counting playing a final as the same value as winning a flag. Surely, that's not the way to do it.

No it isn't, it's calculating averages over the time a club has had success. 'Success' being subject to opinion, none the less making a GF is more successful than winning the spoon, same as making a final vs not making a final.

What the spread sheet does is eliminate the '1910 flag doesn't count, coz it's not the same as it is now' argument, by that logic you could claim the 2024 flag is irrelevant in 100 years time.

What it also does is separate a 'flags only as the metric to be measured' argument, otherwise you can't separate the 3 clubs that have the most flags.

That is the idea of the spread sheet, ok, that is convenient from where I sit, none the less the facts from AFL tables can't be denied.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Hang on.. what about the forgotten years? Should we not be starting from 1870? The real start date?

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* current up to the end of 2022

Because they're different competitions, going by your logic Port Adelaide would be clear winners, as far as we know. There might be a club that has more than 29 flags in a competition somewhere, that we don't know about.