NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 3

[Kurve]

Here is US Politics Pt 2

The 2024 US presidential election is on Tuesday, 5 November 2024. The winner will serve a term of four years in the White House, starting in January 2025.

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

This is on the assumption that we have complete peace I feel? The reason the places with the most poverty has the most civil war is primarily survival. People like to pretend its religion and other crap but it isnt.

If we drop 55 billion bags of rice, does the peace exist for them to divide the food equally or in the space of civil war, does one take control to protect themselves from the danger of the alternative?

In your scenario, world peace must occur before the equalisation of food sharing.... I cant see that ever happening

oh I agree, hence why I called it utopian - I can't see it happening in my lifetime but it's not something I'd dismiss as worthless. Same as the end of slavery isn't something I can imagine in my lifetime but it's not something to say isn't worth aiming at. I would also look far closer to home than just the Congo or anywhere in civil war.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

oh I agree, hence why I called it utopian - I can't see it happening in my lifetime but it's not something I'd dismiss as worthless. Same as the end of slavery isn't something I can imagine in my lifetime but it's not something to say isn't worth aiming at. I would also look far closer to home than just the Congo or anywhere in civil war.

I disagree on that

We can make slavery a extremely minimalist approach, we cant do the same for poverty. Poverty will get worse before it gets better, and climate or any other pretend reason isnt the cause

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

Someone needs to explain how you attack something you love in a logical way.

Are there any other examples in the world where a terrorist attack too place om the basis of promoting that ideal? Like has a Shia Muslin ever attacked a Shia Mosque? Has a pro Netanyahu supporter ever attacked a Jewish synagogue

If in a entire world of crimes, you have 1 example of something ever occuring, you should probably question the basis of your 1 and only example yeah?

Operation Himmler springs to mind.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Operation Himmler springs to mind.

Not really comparable. That was a government iniative involving thousands of people. This is 1 dude who likes something in a truck.

I also dont think that is a terrorist attack. That was a political strategy. I think you gotta compare apples with apples. Whats the terorrist scenario of destroying something you love?

 

[Mofra]

Someone needs to explain how you attack something you love in a logical way.

Are there any other examples in the world where a terrorist attack too place om the basis of promoting that ideal?

One of the Trump attempted shooters was a Trump supporter (or at the very least, he was until weeks before the attempted shooting).

Humans do not always behave rationally.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

One of the Trump attempted shooters was a Trump supporter (or at the very least, he was until weeks before the attempted shooting).

Humans do not always behave rationally

Not sure the evidence ever was fully proven that way. Im a bit iffy on all of that. Argument isnt strong enough to use that as your example since the evidence wasnt strong enough.

Unless I was missing something obvious that proved that link?

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

Someone needs to explain how you attack something you love in a logical way.

Are there any other examples in the world where a terrorist attack too place om the basis of promoting that ideal? Like has a Shia Muslin ever attacked a Shia Mosque? Has a pro Netanyahu supporter ever attacked a Jewish synagogue

If in a entire world of crimes, you have 1 example of something ever occuring, you should probably question the basis of your 1 and only example yeah?

If you're talking about Matthew I don't think he intended to blow anything up at all. Maybe the fireworks were purchased for a New Year's Eve celebration he was going to have that never eventuated.

EDIT:

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

One of the Trump attempted shooters was a Trump supporter (or at the very least, he was until weeks before the attempted shooting).

Which one?

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

gotta love a situation where the military ID, passports and credit cards survived that burn as did tattoos that could identify the man yet also describe him as "burnt beyond recognition". Trying to make sense of the story at this point in time is just guesswork.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Someone needs to explain how you attack something you love in a logical way.

Are there any other examples in the world where a terrorist attack too place om the basis of promoting that ideal? Like has a Shia Muslin ever attacked a Shia Mosque? Has a pro Netanyahu supporter ever attacked a Jewish synagogue

If in a entire world of crimes, you have 1 example of something ever occuring, you should probably question the basis of your 1 and only example yeah?

Remember that time the Christian Patriot Tourists smashed windows and shat in the halls of the Capitol?

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

gotta love a situation where the military ID, passports and credit cards survived that burn as did tattoos that could identify the man yet also describe him as "burnt beyond recognition". Trying to make sense of the story at this point in time is just guesswork.

Only small pieces of tattooed skin remained. It was only after DNA testing revealed who he was that those small pieces could be matched to tattoos he was known to have.

 

[HitTheNailOnTheHead]

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Remember that time the Christian Patriot Tourists smashed windows and shat in the halls of the Capitol?

You said that was a attack against democracy though?

Need a new example for sure

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

considering Leon made comments about how the truck's diagnostics were all reporting fine (kind of creepy that every vehicle is constantly phoning home to him) they would be able to prove if the car drove up by itself rather than being driven up by a living person.

 

[Kurve]

Cybertruck blast suspect was a ‘Rambo type’ who loved Trump, family says

Exclusive: Matthew Livelsberger’s shocked uncle told The Independent that the Green Beret was a ‘supersoldier’

www.independent.co.uk

Raises questions - a green beret would be familiar with explosives and I'm not sure he'd choose something so amateurish if he actually wanted to do serious damage. Very curious.

Maybe he rigged the battery in the Tesla itself to explode, I saw a report that said it smoked first before it blew. Smoking first gave him that few extra seconds to shoot himself?

The fireworks and propane was for added bang?

 

[Satan]

Maybe he rigged the battery in the Tesla itself to explode, I saw a report that said it smoked first before it blew. Smoking first gave him that few extra seconds to shoot himself?

The fireworks and propane was for added bang?

Elon might sue you suggesting tesla batteries explode

 

[Kurve]

Elon might sue you suggesting tesla batteries explode

I think it's true but ...

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

potential explanation:

All American Trump fan turns up at Trump Tower with a boot full of fireworks hoping to meet the great man himself and let off some fireworks from the Penthouse together. Parks his cybertruck out the front and reaches for his wallet to get his credit card to pay the valet. Accidentally knocks his gun out of it's holster and it fires as he fumbles. The bullet goes downwards and damages the cybertruck's battery. Meanwhile he's still butterfinger fumbling with the gun and accidentally shoots himself dead. Then the cybertruck's battery explodes. Then the great man refers to his almost newfound buddy as scum. It's a cruel world.

 

[Mofra]

Maybe he rigged the battery in the Tesla itself to explode, I saw a report that said it smoked first before it blew. Smoking first gave him that few extra seconds to shoot himself?

The fireworks and propane was for added bang?

Possibly, but I would have thought if he really wanted damage he'd hire a mig welder and create a shaped charge - or use more intense material.

Given the choice of car & location or seems more symbolic than anything. It's hard to tell with anyone crazy enough to want to blow up people and/or buildings without a clear established motive.

 

[Mofra]

Which one?

Crooks was a conservative.

Thomas Matthew Crooks: What we know about Donald Trump's attacker

The 20-year-old registered Republican purchased ammunition the day of the rally, authorities say.

www.bbc.com

The other (Routh) had a history of swing voting.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Crooks was a conservative.

Thomas Matthew Crooks: What we know about Donald Trump's attacker

The 20-year-old registered Republican purchased ammunition the day of the rally, authorities say.

www.bbc.com

The other (Routh) had a history of swing voting.

Literally two pages agp you told me political registration of the Las Vegas bomber didn’t prove his allegiances… Might wanna pick a lane on this one

The same situation for both exists. What they believed in 2020 isn’t that relevant to what they did in 2024. Based on your logic here if I shot at Joe Biden I am a pro Democrat shooter ? I mean I did support him in 2020 after all. Do you think I am a pro Democrat ?

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

Literally two pages agp you told me political registration of the Las Vegas bomber didn’t prove his allegiances… Might wanna pick a lane on this one

The same situation for both exists. What they believed in 2020 isn’t that relevant to what they did in 2024. Based on your logic here if I shot at Joe Biden I am a pro Democrat shooter ? I mean I did support him in 2020 after all. Do you think I am a pro Democrat ?

please don't shoot Biden.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

please don't shoot Biden.

True. I should go shoot the leader of the Democratic Party. Atleast I won’t get arrested for shooting at nothing that way

 

[Mofra]

Literally two pages agp you told me political registration of the Las Vegas bomber didn’t prove his allegiances… Might wanna pick a lane on this one

The same situation for both exists. What they believed in 2020 isn’t that relevant to what they did in 2024. Based on your logic here if I shot at Joe Biden I am a pro Democrat shooter ? I mean I did support him in 2020 after all. Do you think I am a pro Democrat ?

Still having comprehension issues?

The discussion was initially about Trump jumping to link the bombing to immigration and needing to secure the border, yet the bomber wasn't an immigrant but in fact a US citizen, and a Trump supporter at that. This was based on more than one instance, including an interview with a family member. I didn't say that was the (or even a predominant) motive behind his attacks, merely identifying who he was and that his identity is at odds with Trump (and MTG for that matter) jumping the gun irrespective of facts.

I also noted that humans don't behave rationally and provided an example of irrational behavior in the context of violent activity (Crooks).

 

[Soldier Of Misfortune]

True. I should go shoot the leader of the Democratic Party. Atleast I won’t get arrested for shooting at nothing that way

shooting people is no joking matter.