NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 3

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Soldier Of Misfortune said:
considering Leon made comments about how the truck's diagnostics were all reporting fine (kind of creepy that every vehicle is constantly phoning home to him) they would be able to prove if the car drove up by itself rather than being driven up by a living person.
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If there was a dead body in the driver's seat as the Cybertruck drove itself around Vegas Tesla might not want that known.
 

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GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
Someone needs to explain how you attack something you love in a logical way.

Are there any other examples in the world where a terrorist attack too place om the basis of promoting that ideal? Like has a Shia Muslin ever attacked a Shia Mosque? Has a pro Netanyahu supporter ever attacked a Jewish synagogue

If in a entire world of crimes, you have 1 example of something ever occuring, you should probably question the basis of your 1 and only example yeah?
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https://apnews.com/article/trump-maga-immigration-visas-musk-91ab17e141cc9764fb18b8bc862c84dc

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump appears to be siding with Elon Musk and his other backers in the tech industry as a dispute over immigration visas has divided his supporters.​
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Trump, in an interview with the New York Post on Saturday, praised the use of visas to bring skilled foreign workers to the U.S. The topic has become a flashpoint within his conservative base.​
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“I’ve always liked the visas, I have always been in favor of the visas. That’s why we have them,” Trump said.​
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In fact, Trump has in the past criticized the H-1B visas, calling them “very bad” and “unfair” for U.S. workers. During his first term as president, he unveiled a “Hire American” policy that directed changes to the program to try to ensure the visas were awarded to the highest-paid or most-skilled applicants.​


https://apnews.com/article/trump-maga-immigration-visas-musk-40b78d2b413aa473e31ca063e4dd5fa8


The rift laid bare the tensions between the newest flank of Trump’s movement — wealthy members of the tech world including billionaire Elon Musk and fellow entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy and their call for more highly skilled workers in their industry — and people in Trump’s Make America Great Again base who championed his hardline immigration policies.​
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The debate touched off this week when Laura Loomer, a right-wing provocateur with a history of racist and conspiratorial comments, criticized Trump’s selection of Sriram Krishnan as an adviser on artificial intelligence policy in his coming administration. Krishnan favors the ability to bring more skilled immigrants into the U.S.​
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During his 2024 campaign for president, as he made immigration his signature issue, Trump said immigrants in the country illegally are “poisoning the blood of our country” and promised to carry out the largest deportation operation in U.S. history.​
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But in a sharp departure from his usual alarmist message around immigration generally, Trump told a podcast this year that he wants to give automatic green cards to foreign students who graduate from U.S. colleges.​
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“I think you should get automatically, as part of your diploma, a green card to be able to stay in this country,” he told the “All-In” podcast with people from the venture capital and technology world.​
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Those comments came on the cusp of Trump’s budding alliance with tech industry figures, but he did not make the idea a regular part of his campaign message or detail any plans to pursue such changes.​
 
CM86 said:
Those comments came on the cusp of Trump’s budding alliance with tech industry figures, but he did not make the idea a regular part of his campaign message or detail any plans to pursue such changes.
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trying to work out if that post regarding how you can attack something you claim to love shows:
(a) the cybertruck guy who loved Trump was angry and hurt by Trump's sudden change of policy and decided to hurt what he loved
(b) Trump who claims to love America appears to be trying to hurt what he loves
(c) both.
 
Soldier Of Misfortune said:
trying to work out if that post regarding how you can attack something you claim to love shows:
(a) the cybertruck guy who loved Trump was angry and hurt by Trump's sudden change of policy and decided to hurt what he loved
(b) Trump who claims to love America appears to be trying to hurt what he loves
(c) both.
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D) clutching at straws with unsubstantiated guesses
 
Soldier Of Misfortune said:
trying to work out if that post regarding how you can attack something you claim to love shows:
(a) the cybertruck guy who loved Trump was angry and hurt by Trump's sudden change of policy and decided to hurt what he loved
(b) Trump who claims to love America appears to be trying to hurt what he loves
(c) both.
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Betrayal.
 

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GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
D) clutching at straws with unsubstantiated guesses
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Step 1. Ask a question.
Step 2. Ignore reporting from the Associated Press.
Step 3. Play the man.


I've explained too many times to you, that I have an assumption based on following the MAGA split in this issue.
I've provided you, repeatedly, with different sources of information to show my reasoning.

I've also explained to you that I could be wrong, and that I'm open to that.


I'm open to my assumption being wrong. But I can show how I've arrived at my current position.



I'm not attacking you, I'm just providing you with information that goes against your wants.
It's not a trap.

I don't know how to explain it any more clearly than I have.
But I've been polite, engaged with you, and I've even taken your word on things in order to engage.
I have to accept that I just cannot engage with you on this topic. And that anything I say to you will come across as an attack or a trap, to you.
 
CM86 said:
Step 1. Ask a question.
Step 2. Ignore reporting from the Associated Press.
Step 3. Play the man.


I've explained too many times to you, that I have an assumption based on following the MAGA split in this issue.
I've provided you, repeatedly, with different sources of information to show my reasoning.

I've also explained to you that I could be wrong, and that I'm open to that.


I'm open to my assumption being wrong. But I can show how I've arrived at my current position.



I'm not attacking you, I'm just providing you with information that goes against your wants.
It's not a trap.

I don't know how to explain it any more clearly than I have.
But I've been polite, engaged with you, and I've even taken your word on things in order to engage.
I have to accept that I just cannot engage with you on this topic. And that anything I say to you will come across as an attack or a trap, to you.
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You are so far away from a rational point it’s hard to actually argue outside of the comment that you are inventing stories in your own head. Your current position has no backup. Just random unrelated articles pasted to a quote without any substance to it outside of you misreading it to invent a assumption

Ultimately your issue is I can’t prove your wild baseless assumption is wrong… I’d argue something baseless doesn’t need to be disproven. It does that by itself
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
You are so far away from a rational point it’s hard to actually argue outside of the comment that you are inventing stories in your own head. Your current position has no backup. Just random unrelated articles pasted to a quote without any substance to it outside of you misreading it to invent a assumption

Ultimately your issue is I can’t prove your wild baseless assumption is wrong… I’d argue something baseless doesn’t need to be disproven. It does that by itself
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Can you tell me what you think I'm arguing?
 
CM86 said:
Can you tell me what you think I'm arguing?
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That a Trump supporter blew himself up because he didn’t like his visa policy ? Something you provided zero evidence for , have admitted is a assumption but then went one better and never provided a base for how that assumption is linked to this or would be

In other words baseless
 
GoEaglesGoSGIO said:
That a Trump supporter blew himself up because he didn’t like his visa policy ? Something you provided zero evidence for , have admitted is a assumption but then went one better and never provided a base for how that assumption is linked to this or would be

In other words baseless
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OK. No that isn't my position or what I'm arguing.
 
Mofra said:
Crooks was a conservative.
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No he wasn't.

He donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project through ActBlue. His mother is a registered Democrat and his father a libertarian.

Have you even considered the possibility that he registered as a Republican purely to vote against Trump in the primary. That would've been the first election he could vote in due to his age and you had to be a registered Republican to vote because Pennsylvania is a closed primary.
 
HitTheNailOnTheHead said:
No he wasn't.

He donated $15 to the Progressive Turnout Project through ActBlue. His mother is a registered Democrat and his father a libertarian.

Have you even considered the possibility that he registered as a Republican purely to vote against Trump in the primary. That would've been the first election he could vote in due to his age and you had to be a registered Republican to vote because Pennsylvania is a closed primary.
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Is anyone ever just a republican or are they all antifa false flags? Im beginning to think you are a lefty stand in trying to make conservatives look bad.
 
Soldier Of Misfortune said:
Is anyone ever just a republican or are they all antifa false flags? Im beginning to think you are a lefty stand in trying to make conservatives look bad.
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🥴

When have I ever said anyone was an Antifa false flag? I think you have me confused with someone else.

Edit: I'm beginning to think you're CM86's benny.
 
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Soldier Of Misfortune said:
Is anyone ever just a republican or are they all antifa false flags? Im beginning to think you are a lefty stand in trying to make conservatives look bad.
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When it comes to assasination attempts on Republicans, they probably are not a Republican suppoters ? I think that’s a fair thought pattern myself
 

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