NWO/Illuminati US politics - Pt 3

[Kurve]

Here is US Politics Pt 2

The 2024 US presidential election is on Tuesday, 5 November 2024. The winner will serve a term of four years in the White House, starting in January 2025.

 

[Stokey]

Well that explains why right wingers all parrot the same nonsense. What time (AEST) do your new talking points drop each day?

Lol. You are more in synch with the left narrative than sorority sisters.

 

[Malifice]

Lol. You are more in synch with the left narrative than sorority sisters.

What is the 'left narrative' by the way?

From where I sit the 'right narrative' is broken down into traditional conservatives (who favor tax cuts for the wealthy, with such tax cuts generally being paid for by severely curtailing welfare and health care for the poor, or by playing down climate change, and who also tend to hold conservative social values such as opposing LGBTI issues, migration and feminism) and Trumpists who (despite seemingly loathing billionaires and the 'elites', and are generally the very people who will be the ones suffering the most from having welfare and health care taken away) vote alongside the traditional conservatives because they also have conservative social values.

All you have to do is dangle some right-wing populism at them about migrants, the 'socialist LGBTI agenda' or similar, and they'll vote you in so you and your wealthy mates can proceed to make a ton of money.

You conspiracists have gone halfway. You've all actually identified the real fact that there are wealthy elites who hold disproportionate amounts of power and have the ear of the government.

You then vote for the party most likely to support the agenda of these elites, by giving them tax cuts, deregulating their industries, and literally employing them in jobs.

It's weird.

I'm not a Socialist, but if you really hate the elites and want to take away their money and power, Socialism is the answer.

 

[zill]

You think he's going to weaken the influence of 'Big Pharma' on the FDA with his 'deregulation' program?

So trump wins and now you are concerned with big pharma ? Do you regret getting that 'pfizer' tattoo?

 

[Stokey]

What is the 'left narrative' by the way?

From where I sit the 'right narrative' is broken down into traditional conservatives (who favor tax cuts for the wealthy, with such tax cuts generally being paid for by severely curtailing welfare and health care for the poor, or by playing down climate change, and who also tend to hold conservative social values such as opposing LGBTI issues, migration and feminism) and Trumpists who (despite seemingly loathing billionaires and the 'elites', and are generally the very people who will be the ones suffering the most from having welfare and health care taken away) vote alongside the traditional conservatives because they also have conservative social values.

All you have to do is dangle some right-wing populism at them about migrants, the 'socialist LGBTI agenda' or similar, and they'll vote you in so you and your wealthy mates can proceed to make a ton of money.

You conspiracists have gone halfway. You've all actually identified the real fact that there are wealthy elites who hold disproportionate amounts of power and have the ear of the government.

You then vote for the party most likely to support the agenda of these elites, by giving them tax cuts, deregulating their industries, and literally employing them in jobs.

It's weird.

I'm not a Socialist, but if you really hate the elites and want to take away their money and power, Socialism is the answer.

You are ranting to yourself again.

 

[EasternTiger]

I think many seem to care. They don’t want to be associated with him.

He’s an attack dog.

He is going to lock up many many people on your side.

If any republicans are uncomfortable with their democrat counterparts getting prosecuted, they will have to find a way to deal with it.

 

[Frank Bunn]

Donald Trump just appointed 'Big Pharma' Ramaswamy to run the budget.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roivant_Sciences

You think he's going to weaken the influence of 'Big Pharma' on the FDA with his 'deregulation' program?

Ramaswamy will not 'run the budget'. DOGE will not be a federal executive department. It will be an advisory body operating outside of government.

There could be some differences of opinion and interests within Team Trump. For example, Kennedy is a left-leaning environmentalist so might be opposed to the opening up of fracking. But he's not going to be in charge of that area.

There will be some push back on changes to FDA funding and regulator relationships with Pharma and the food industry. The lobby groups are very powerful. But as head of the Department of Health and Human Services Kennedy will have some clout, and he has a mandate to rid the health system of excessive corporate influence. Where Kennedy and Ramaswamy might agree is that currently the FDA is in the grip of the big Pharma companies. It restricts anything they haven't patented at the expense of cheaper alternative treatments.

On the face of it, the proposed reforms might be seen as conflicting with a cost cutting and deregulation program. But if you look at the bigger picture, the US spends about $4.5 trillion per year on healthcare. Or $12.5k per person. That's way more than any other country in the world. Much of that is due to the poor health of Americans. They are more likely to die younger, and from avoidable causes, than residents of peer countries. When you compare the US to other high-income countries, it has an obesity rate nearly twice the OECD average, and the highest rate of people with multiple chronic conditions. You would think programs that might improve people's health and save money would have bi-partisan support.

I guess we will see how it all plays out.

 

[Mofra]

Ramaswamy will not 'run the budget'. DOGE will not be a federal executive department. It will be an advisory body operating outside of government.

There could be some differences of opinion and interests within Team Trump. For example, Kennedy is a left-leaning environmentalist so might be opposed to the opening up of fracking. But he's not going to be in charge of that area.

There will be some push back on changes to FDA funding and regulator relationships with Pharma and the food industry. The lobby groups are very powerful. But as head of the Department of Health and Human Services Kennedy will have some clout, and he has a mandate to rid the health system of excessive corporate influence. Where Kennedy and Ramaswamy might agree is that currently the FDA is in the grip of the big Pharma companies. It restricts anything they haven't patented at the expense of cheaper alternative treatments.

On the face of it, the proposed reforms might be seen as conflicting with a cost cutting and deregulation program. But if you look at the bigger picture, the US spends about $4.5 trillion per year on healthcare. Or $12.5k per person. That's way more than any other country in the world. Much of that is due to the poor health of Americans. They are more likely to die younger, and from avoidable causes, than residents of peer countries. When you compare the US to other high-income countries, it has an obesity rate nearly twice the OECD average, and the highest rate of people with multiple chronic conditions. You would think programs that might improve people's health and save money would have bi-partisan support.

I guess we will see how it all plays out.

That per capita figure matches others I've seen, but the single-supplier model is by far the biggest drain on the healthcare budget. $400 for a saline drip because hospitals can't shop around for better suppliers and the medical suppliers are big party doners. For all the talk "big pharma", it's "big supplier" that are the true leeches.

Universal healthcare is actually a much cheaper model, as 29 other OECD nations out of the top 30 have found.

 

[Mofra]

 

[Red Black and Blue]

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