VAFA General Discussion

[bedford]

FWIW new vafa president creating a big footy account and the Herald Sun doing a write up on Div1-Div4 recruits, what other nuggets does 2024 have in store? Bedford as the new mod?

Happy to accept fwiw

 

[lettheboysplay]

My only problem with this is the division selections.

I'd you are strong enough to have so many teams they should be in successive divisions- otherwise the rich get richer. Let clubs with only one thirds compete against each other in lower divisions.

OX five teams should be Prem to Div 4.

100% - I wish, I really do wish, I didn't have so many gripes with HQ, but they make it so hard to be supportive when their decisions are so damaging to divisional clubs.

 

[lettheboysplay]

No affiliation with Xavs just gobsmacked with their numbers- unbelievable! At the end of the day their bottom (Div 6) team is essentially their 7ths so players ranked 150+ in their senior ranks, compared to other thirds teams which may only have 1 team in that bottom grade….players ranked 50+ at their club. I know they are an extremely strong club but this seems fair!

We're talking about a school with 300 in each year level, they send out mass emails and letters to stay involved with their Old Boy sporting clubs, they preach networking opportunities. It's the ATAR in football form. Rigged for their success.

With all due respect, most guys in their thirds would be playing ones or twos at most divisional clubs, but they're happy to take the easy option to play with their mates and probably win a flag. I don't blame them, but nobody really cares.

For some of us, it might appear to be a soulless corporate operation. But like other soulless corporate operations, it pays the bills at OXFC, keeps the VAFA happy and creates hundreds of premiership reunions.

 

[Mr Platinum]

We're talking about a school with 300 in each year level, they send out mass emails and letters to stay involved with their Old Boy sporting clubs, they preach networking opportunities. It's the ATAR in football form. Rigged for their success.

With all due respect, most guys in their thirds would be playing ones or twos at most divisional clubs, but they're happy to take the easy option to play with their mates and probably win a flag. I don't blame them, but nobody really cares.

For some of us, it might appear to be a soulless corporate operation. But like other soulless corporate operations, it pays the bills at OXFC, keeps the VAFA happy and creates hundreds of premiership reunions.

Factually incorrect, Xavier College has 1,558 boys enrolled from Prep to Year 12, which is actually a 23% decline in enrolments from 2014. At some point this will catch up with their football club, potentially sooner than we all think as their under 19’s premier team lost a practice match yesterday 17 goals to 1.

As far as most of their guys playing ones or reserves at divisional clubs, I’d would suggest that nearly anyone would play seniors or reserves at a D3 team.

 

[lettheboysplay]

Factually incorrect, Xavier College has 1,558 boys enrolled from Prep to Year 12, which is actually a 23% decline in enrolments from 2014. At some point this will catch up with their football club, potentially sooner than we all think as their under 19’s premier team lost a practice match yesterday 17 goals to 1.

As far as most of their guys playing ones or reserves at divisional clubs, I’d would suggest that nearly anyone would play seniors or reserves at a D3 team.

Interesting. I didn't know this about both their under 19s and enrolment decline. I also know their women's program has been an absolute disaster too, whereas St Kevins and Scotch, amongst others have seen huge benefits and accordingly have had massive success.

 

[bedford]

Interesting. I didn't know this about both their under 19s and enrolment decline. I also know their women's program has been an absolute disaster too, whereas St Kevins and Scotch, amongst others have seen huge benefits and accordingly have had massive success.

School BOY teams shouldn't have girls teams. Don't worry im waiting

 

[Mr Platinum]

School BOY teams shouldn't have girls teams. Don't worry im waiting

Agree bedford but we aren’t talking about a school boy team. We are talking about a football club in the VAFA, just like AFL clubs have women’s teams in the AFLW

 

[bedford]

Agree bedford but we aren’t talking about a school boy team. We are talking about a football club in the VAFA, just like AFL clubs have women’s teams in the AFLW

But their not boys schools

 

[localfootylegend23]

School BOY teams shouldn't have girls teams. Don't worry im waiting

U are too old school my friend. Really doesn't mean anything, not effecting or hurting anyone. Like u said, if the club isn't forthright and well structured the women become a hindrance on resources

 

[bedford]

U are too old school my friend. Really doesn't mean anything, not effecting or hurting anyone. Like u said, if the club isn't forthright and well structured the women become a hindrance on resources

Why do school BOY teams need them that's all

 

[Navyblues09]

Why do school BOY teams need them that's all

Girlfriends, sisters, daughters, teachers all connected to the clubs, why should they have to go somewhere else with no connections to play football?

 

[XXXXAFL]

Having witnessed the massive difference a couple of quality players can make at thirds level, it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Xavs have employed the same method a lot of local cricket clubs use.

Players 36-40 in 1st Thirds team, 41-45 in 2nd side, 46-50 in 3rd side etc then the rest fill out the teams. So the 5th side might include 150th player on the list, it’ll also include Xavs 55th best player, I’m sure they’re a bit better than a Divisional clubs 60-70th players.

XAVSWAFL blessing/curse at the moment is players 10-60 are very close in ability but some don’t commit to Senior Football requirements. Player 55 mentioned would walk into A Grade seniors with a god pre season under their belt. Work, life balance and premiership reunions are the alternative.

 

[WithThePeanuts]

But their not boys schools

*they’re

 

[bedford]

Girlfriends, sisters, daughters, teachers all connected to the clubs, why should they have to go somewhere else with no connections to play football?

Plenty of local clubs have girls teams and now 1 out of Port Melbourne , the Chargers

 

[bedford]

*they’re

Who cares there their or every they're

 

[unwise gamgee]

School BOY teams shouldn't have girls teams. Don't worry im waiting

they're probably made up of sister school old girls teams. I think St Cath's is St Kev's sister school and it would be way harder for st Cath's to start an old girls club than for alumni to play in a women's team for the already existing brother school's old boys team (SKOB)

 

[Nepotism]

The Ammos is all about name brands.

SKevs is a big brand in the VAFA so they would get girls from all over the place coming to play of their own accord.

 

[man in outer]

they're probably made up of sister school old girls teams. I think St Cath's is St Kev's sister school and it would be way harder for st Cath's to start an old girls club than for alumni to play in a women's team for the already existing brother school's old boys team (SKOB)

Different religions and different social economic make up.....definitely makes sense for the Old Boys teams to welcome and promote women's teams. Just makes the whole organisation better.

 

[bedford]

Different religions and different social economic make up.....definitely makes sense for the Old Boys teams to welcome and promote women's teams. Just makes the whole organisation better.

Not against them having girls teams it just the total amount of teams some of these schoolboy teams have

 

[Navyblues09]

Plenty of local clubs have girls teams and now 1 out of Port Melbourne , the Chargers

But once again, if they have no connections then why play there? Easier for families to be at one club, one league.

 

[hansie]

Different religions and different social economic make up.....definitely makes sense for the Old Boys teams to welcome and promote women's teams. Just makes the whole organisation better.

Plus a few girls’ schools who wouldn’t have ‘old girl’ footy clubs however girls have played junior footy now and also in the GSV comp (Siena gen mandeville etc) - the girls want to keep playing where do they go? Fairly sure scotch initially had an extra green v on their jumper and were scotch stars - link with MLC


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[mercury48]

At some point this will catch up with their football club, potentially sooner than we all think as their under 19’s premier team lost a practice match yesterday 17 goals to 1.

Who beat them out of interest?

 

[FWIW]

FWIW did we have an ammo version of the Kyneton women’s footy scandal? Collegians to Port Melbourne Chargers?

 

[bedford]

FWIW did we have an ammo version of the Kyneton women’s footy scandal? Collegians to Port Melbourne Chargers?

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[Mr Platinum]

FWIW did we have an ammo version of the Kyneton women’s footy scandal? Collegians to Port Melbourne Chargers?

The Collegians women’s programme is on hold this year, so those girls are simply transferring to a club close by so they can play a game of footy.

 

[Mr Platinum]

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