VAR Thread

[Zidane98]

Oh dear zizou.

It’s simple my stupid little scouse pal.
On one hand acknowledge being in an offside position is no offence (correct), on the other hand quash that same notion because Kane played at a ball after Lovren had played him onside in a new phase.

So young man, maybe you should learn rules

http://www.thefa.com/-/media/files/...aws-of-the-game/2018-19/law-11---offside.ashx

gaining an advantage by playing the ball or interfering with an opponent when it has:
• rebounded or been deflected off the goalpost, crossbar, match official or an opponent
• been deliberately saved by any opponent

A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save by any opponent) is not considered to have gained an advantage.
contradicts himself.
Accuses someone of needing to learn the rules. Gets it wrong.
As hominem drive by for good measure.

Lovren did not deliberately play the ball to Kane like you claim. That situation would be Lovren controlling the ball, passing it to another defender and Kane intercepting it. See more below.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...stants-par-anfield-spurs-did-not-deserve/amp/

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Oh dear

 

[Zidane98]

Oh dear

Oh dear indeed. Your attempt to compare the two scenarios was hilariously poor.

Aren't you supposed to be posting about Arsenal in the EL thread or something?

#rentfree

 

[99 Problems]

Lovren did not deliberately play the ball to Kane like you claim. That situation would be Lovren controlling the ball, passing it to another defender and Kane intercepting it. See more below.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.te...stants-par-anfield-spurs-did-not-deserve/amp/

He absolutely deliberately played the ball, he just made a mess of it. He clearly intended to clear it, slipped/almost missed it and it went straight to Kane who was then rightfully onside.

 

[moomba]

In regard to Schalke decision VAR didn't even consider offside. The penalty was cleared in about 5 seconds, if they did check offside they would have had to have looked at if they were in an offside position, when they were active and when the foul was made.

It would have taken over a minute I reckon, but it took 5 seconds.

Just UEFA trying to justify a bad decision.

 

[RPCB]

We need a video because my description wouldn’t do it justice of how ridiculous it was for the referee to give Napoli a penalty against Juventus after his VAR check. In no way, shape or form was that a penalty.

https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/vid...e-squander-penalty?playlist=latest-videos-twg

 

[Zidane98]

Dubious call this morning for Ajax to score with the ball appearing out. It appears as if VAR cannot intervene in this scenario though - only goals, offside, mistaken identity and red card incidents.

Spurs goal from Rose throw in vs Burnley also unable to be reviewed on VAR due to it being an incorrect restart of play which VAR can not intervene in.

 

[Cruyff14]

I don't know how they came to agree it being in, there was an angle that showed on a replay where it was clearly out.

 

[Zidane98]

I don't know how they came to agree it being in, there was an angle that showed on a replay where it was clearly out.

VAR couldn't intervene, that was the issue (I believe).

 

[SM]

Dubious call this morning for Ajax to score with the ball appearing out. It appears as if VAR cannot intervene in this scenario though - only goals, offside, mistaken identity and red card incidents.

Spurs goal from Rose throw in vs Burnley also unable to be reviewed on VAR due to it being an incorrect restart of play which VAR can not intervene in.

VAR reviewed it and it wasn't out. Great use, just needs to be refined so it doesn't take too long.

 

[SM]

I don't know how they came to agree it being in, there was an angle that showed on a replay where it was clearly out.

It wasn't clearly out.

 

[Cruyff14]

It wasn't clearly out.

Yes it was. I watched the game, and there was an angle that was shown that it was. The commentators even said so. It for some reason was only shown once.

 

[SM]

Yes it was. I watched the game, and there was an angle that was shown that it was. The commentators even said so. It for some reason was only shown once.

Yeah no. It was not. A ball is round not flat. It doesn't matter if the base is out, the whole ball has to be over the whole line.

 

[moomba]

For me it looks out, but marginally and I don't think you can say for sure one way or the other no matter how many times you view the footage.

I guess that's where clear and obvious error comes in.

It does make you appreciate just what a good innovation goal line technology is and how smoothly it runs during a game.

 

[Cruyff14]

Yeah no. It was not. A ball is round not flat. It doesn't matter if the base is out, the whole ball has to be over the whole line.

The angle I saw was with the ball entirely over the line. I wouldn't be saying so if it wasn't.

 

[SM]

The angle I saw was with the ball entirely over the line. I wouldn't be saying so if it wasn't.

You saw an angle directly above the ball?

 

[Cruyff14]

Oh for God's sake. I saw what was shown on the television. And the angle shown showed the ball was out.

 

[SM]

Oh for God's sake. I saw what was shown on the television. And the angle shown showed the ball was out.

For God's sake, you still don't get it.

 

[chef]

You couldnt tell 100% by that vision, unless theres vision from above or down the line its not definitive.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

Inclined to agree with Cruyffy, that angle showed the ball was out - just, even taking the curvage into account. The problem seems to be that VAR officials wasn’t shown the angle Cruyff is talking about

 

[Cruyff14]

Inclined to agree with Cruyffy, that angle showed the ball was out - just, even taking the curvage into account. The problem seems to be that VAR officials wasn’t shown the angle Cruyff is talking about

Turns out I wasn't talking Chinese and people can apply logic.

From what I saw on the television myself, with my own eyes, the whole ball was out.

 

[SM]

Turns out I wasn't talking Chinese and people can apply logic.

From what I saw on the television myself, with my own eyes, the whole ball was out.

And I'm suggesting you're wrong. It's got nothing to do with you being difficult to understand, but rather you not seemingly applying the laws of the game correctly. I've seen multiple angles of it, presumably one of them being your magic bullet angle and none of them conclusively said the ball was out, in which case the advantage goes to the attacking team and it is play on.

 

[WealstoneRaider]

I remember when you two used to be mates...

 

[moomba]

Has "clear and obvious" error been defined anywhere.

Was thinking about the Rashford penalty.

I can see why it was given although I think it wasn't a pen.

But was it a clear and obvious error? Not for me, still a very subjective decision.

 

[Zidane98]

Has "clear and obvious" error been defined anywhere.

Was thinking about the Rashford penalty.

I can see why it was given although I think it wasn't a pen.

But was it a clear and obvious error? Not for me, still a very subjective decision.

Was it given as a penalty initially or was it given after VAR intervention? Should really be obvious if given from VAR advice IMO.