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I was thinking about posting this in the Conca thread but couldn't be bothered writing it because I think it will fall on deaf ears but here are my issues with the posters that are always negative:

1. You're not being critical, you're being arseh*le. For example, you say something that you think is highlighting a failing of the club or a player, but the way you do it is just plain rude. The main way this happens is when, at the end of a post, there is a sentence like, 'only foamers fail to see (insert generalisation that is partly true)'.

2. You change the goal posts of the debate all the time. For example, you make a blanket statement that is negative, and then someone points to some stat or reason as to why that isn't quite right (even if it's mostly right), and then you ignore that and say something like, 'well, he still doesn't kick goals/ tackle/ provide on field leadership'. Those second points are usually true but how are we meant to have a discussion when you don't actually engage with those other side of the argument.

3. You play the man. Someone will say something you don't agree with and you just outright insult them, usually by suggesting they are blind/ followers/ flower sniffers/ drinking kool aid.

4. You ignore that most of us are actually quite critical of the club too. Look at the predictions thread. So many have us finishing outside the 8; we aren't blind just because we have some hope of improvement and see some capacity for some success moving forward.

I think one of the best things about a forum like BigFooty is that we read things we might not have considered by ourselves, both negative and positive. It pulls us out of the doldrums and takes off the rose coloured glasses at the same time. But that's only the case if you have a partly open mind. You, as in the most general 'you' possible, don't know everything, but some posters write as if they did and anyone who doesn't agree with them is a *******. That kind of attitude is frustrating, and tiresome, and unhelpful. I've had everyone unblocked for a while (except webby because he is just a straight up campaigner) because even the most negative posters are often accurate, but Jesus that 'you're an idiot if you don't agree with me' attitude is shit. Humbly, I ask you, please stop doing it if any of that rang true.
 
3. You play the man. Someone will say something you don't agree with and you just outright insult them, usually by suggesting they are blind/ followers/ flower sniffers/ drinking kool aid.
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Quite a lot of so-called positive posters are very guilty of this too, buddy.
I can name five straight off the bat ... but won't!
 
Quite a lot of so-called positive posters are very guilty of this too, buddy.
I can name five straight off the bat ... but won't!
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I was thinking about posting this in the Conca thread but couldn't be bothered writing it because I think it will fall on deaf ears but here are my issues with the posters that are always negative:

1. You're not being critical, you're being arseh*le. For example, you say something that you think is highlighting a failing of the club or a player, but the way you do it is just plain rude. The main way this happens is when, at the end of a post, there is a sentence like, 'only foamers fail to see (insert generalisation that is partly true)'.

2. You change the goal posts of the debate all the time. For example, you make a blanket statement that is negative, and then someone points to some stat or reason as to why that isn't quite right (even if it's mostly right), and then you ignore that and say something like, 'well, he still doesn't kick goals/ tackle/ provide on field leadership'. Those second points are usually true but how are we meant to have a discussion when you don't actually engage with those other side of the argument.

3. You play the man. Someone will say something you don't agree with and you just outright insult them, usually by suggesting they are blind/ followers/ flower sniffers/ drinking kool aid.

4. You ignore that most of us are actually quite critical of the club too. Look at the predictions thread. So many have us finishing outside the 8; we aren't blind just because we have some hope of improvement and see some capacity for some success moving forward.

I think one of the best things about a forum like BigFooty is that we read things we might not have considered by ourselves, both negative and positive. It pulls us out of the doldrums and takes off the rose coloured glasses at the same time. But that's only the case if you have a partly open mind. You, as in the most general 'you' possible, don't know everything, but some posters write as if they did and anyone who doesn't agree with them is a *******. That kind of attitude is frustrating, and tiresome, and unhelpful. I've had everyone unblocked for a while (except webby because he is just a straight up campaigner) because even the most negative posters are often accurate, but Jesus that 'you're an idiot if you don't agree with me' attitude is shit. Humbly, I ask you, please stop doing it if any of that rang true.

Great post brother! You forget point 5 though.

5. They always mention that positive posters attack them, full on jesus complex yet they ignore the fact they are the first to deride or insult when a poster mentions a player on there shit list in a positive light. The Batchelor posts are a perfect example of it.

They also are the first to report, when they get caught out. Its like a 60 minute make over :p
 

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Great post brother! You forget point 5 though.

5. They always mention that positive posters attack them, full on jesus complex yet they ignore the fact they are the first to deride or insult when a poster mentions a player on there shit list in a positive light. The Batchelor posts are a perfect example of it.

They also are the first to report, when they get caught out. Its like a 60 minute make over :p
they dont like it when you call them out on getting personal first either.....
 
Great post brother! You forget point 5 though.

5. They always mention that positive posters attack them, full on jesus complex yet they ignore the fact they are the first to deride or insult when a poster mentions a player on there shit list in a positive light. The Batchelor posts are a perfect example of it.

They also are the first to report, when they get caught out. Its like a 60 minute make over :p

As the Dalai Lama of the positive brigade, I'm tipping you are guilty of 1 through 5. ;)
 
As the Dalai Lama of the positive brigade, I'm tipping you are guilty of 1 through 5. ;)

Yet i dont report posts and call it as i see it So im one of your famous 5 am i sir that attack abd derail you? I cant recall once when ive done that. I actually appreciate you at least debate and keep it non personal, you even gave me a positive plug not long ago lol.

As to being the leader of the positive brigade, i find that strange. I wanted DH gone since july. I am just the type of bloke to post my point then support the club. Not rehash the same point over and over while slagging the club off in the process.

Also, when i say support. That is not blindly acceptting decisions. I made my voice heard when i voted. I just dont believe in mocking the club, its players, and coaches ( not saying you do,you dont) is very constructive.
 
Yet i dont report posts and call it as i see it So im one of your famous 5 am i sir that attack abd derail you? I cant recall once when ive done that. I actually appreciate you at least debate and keep it non personal, you even gave me a positive plug not long ago lol.

As to being the leader of the positive brigade, i find that strange. I wanted DH gone since july. I am just the type of bloke to post my point then support the club. Not rehash the same point over and over while slagging the club off in the process.

Also, when i say support. That is not blindly acceptting decisions. I made my voice heard when i voted. I just dont believe in mocking the club, its players, and coaches ( not saying you do,you dont) is very constructive.

No you're not one of the five!
Otherwise you'd be on ignore too!
 
We disagree on things, but I hold no grudges and see your point of view and like yourself don't blindly accept decisions that this club has and conttinues to toss up to its detriment.

I have three posters on ignore because they are the opposite of what you described, blindly hate on any decision the club makes :) it happens on both ends of the spectrum really.
 
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