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[macca69]

gumbeltons a chance for number 1 and wont slip out of top 3

Gumbleton would have almost no chance of going pick 1 IMO.

And what makes you so confident he won't drop out of the top 3? Not disagreeing with you, just wondering what you are basing it on, just seeing him play, or have you heard something? He is a big chance to go top 3, but so are about 6 other players.

 

[smithos]

how will he grow into an outstanding athlete hes running a 9 beep test and will put on more weight at a club (if he goes)

Gumbelton is a far better prospect than Paddy Ryder he went 7 ( i think) in a weak draft and gumbeltons a chance for number 1 and wont slip out of top 3, and then comparing this country boy who has done nothing to prove he can play against good players is just simply ridicolous.

QFT, Gumby was better than Ryder and Kennedy at last year's championships even though he was a year younger.

 

[Lingsface]

Gumbleton would have almost no chance of going pick 1 IMO.

And what makes you so confident he won't drop out of the top 3? Not disagreeing with you, just wondering what you are basing it on, just seeing him play, or have you heard something? He is a big chance to go top 3, but so are about 6 other players.

Hes just too good to go outside of the top 3 I would say he is a freak and a player that a team could build around he's got the best over head mark thats been around for a while in the draft. There is a possibility that he could slip out of the top 3 but it would be a bargain pick up if he does.Would fit nicely at the kangaroos I would think.

 

[macca69]

Hes just too good to go outside of the top 3 I would say he is a freak and a player that a team could build around he's got the best over head mark thats been around for a while in the draft. There is a possibility that he could slip out of the top 3 but it would be a bargain pick up if he does.Would fit nicely at the kangaroos I would think.

yeh no doubting he is an amazing talent. It's just that with the quality of the draft, I find it hard to understand how people say someone is a certainty to go somewhere, when especially in this draft, there are no real certainties. Although I do agree that if he slipped out of the top 3 he would be a bargain, however I think there is a decent possibility that he could do just that, certaintly not out of the question in any case.

 

[Lingsface]

yeh no doubting he is an amazing talent. It's just that with the quality of the draft, I find it hard to understand how people say someone is a certainty to go somewhere, when especially in this draft, there are no real certainties. Although I do agree that if he slipped out of the top 3 he would be a bargain, however I think there is a decent possibility that he could do just that, certaintly not out of the question in any case.

agreed

 

[YAKUZA]

Anything is possible as we all agree, what about the possibility of Gibbs slipping to 3?

 

[macca69]

Anything is possible as we all agree, what about the possibility of Gibbs slipping to 3?

that could be a real possibility. I'd say Leuenberger would be a real chance to go at pick 1. Very hard to predict what Sheedy will do, but usually goes for a KPP with his early picks, so any of Gumbleton, Hansen, Thorp or possibly even Sellar would be a chance. What do you think Sheed's will do Yakuza?

 

[YAKUZA]

that could be a real possibility. I'd say Leuenberger would be a real chance to go at pick 1. Very hard to predict what Sheedy will do, but usually goes for a KPP with his early picks, so any of Gumbleton, Hansen, Thorp or possibly even Sellar would be a chance. What do you think Sheed's will do Yakuza?

I have to stick with my original opinion that I posted some weeks ago that Carlton will take either Leuenberger or Gibbs, that is if Hughes gets his way he'll take Leuenberger but if the Club gets it's way he'll take Gibbs. I agree it's difficult to predict what Sheedy will do but I just think that Gumbleton is too good a prospect to pass on and he might just prefer him to Gibbs.
Gibbs undoubtedly is a very good player/midfielder but he's not a first hands on centre clearance midfielder like Judd/Hasleby etc., moreso a second and subsequent user. That's how I see him anyway.

 

[HBF]

I have to stick with my original opinion that I posted some weeks ago that Carlton will take either Leuenberger or Gibbs, that is if Hughes gets his way he'll take Leuenberger but if the Club gets it's way he'll take Gibbs. I agree it's difficult to predict what Sheedy will do but I just think that Gumbleton is too good a prospect to pass on and he might just prefer him to Gibbs.
Gibbs undoubtedly is a very good player/midfielder but he's not a first hands on centre clearance midfielder like Judd/Hasleby etc., moreso a second and subsequent user. That's how I see him anyway.

I think that's the second time i've seen you post that comment, about Hughes wanting Leuenberger, and the club wanting Gibbs. Do you have some inside knowledge of what is happening at Princes Park?

 

[YAKUZA]

I think that's the second time i've seen you post that comment, about Hughes wanting Leuenberger, and the club wanting Gibbs. Do you have some inside knowledge of what is happening at Princes Park?

No not really it's just an opinion.

 

[Streaker]

How did Venturini go?

 

[YAKUZA]

How did Venturini go?

I didn't take a great deal of notice.

 

[HBF]

No not really it's just an opinion.

Fair enough, but I think it will be Gibbs. History says that most ruckman slip down the order on draft day, although there hasn't been a ruckman coming into a draft with this bigger reputation for some time.

Let me ask you this though. If Carlton do take Gibbs, where do you think Leuey will fall to? To me, it's down to 2. They are:

Port Adelaide - Have a history of taking ruckman and think that Leuey will be to good for them to pass up.

Hawthorn - Obvious replacement for Spida, and might want some more talent to back up Campbell, Bailey and Taylor.

Thoughts?

 

[YAKUZA]

Fair enough, but I think it will be Gibbs. History says that most ruckman slip down the order on draft day, although there hasn't been a ruckman coming into a draft with this bigger reputation for some time.

Let me ask you this though. If Carlton do take Gibbs, where do you think Leuey will fall to? To me, it's down to 2. They are:

Port Adelaide - Have a history of taking ruckman and think that Leuey will be to good for them to pass up.

Hawthorn - Obvious replacement for Spida, and might want some more talent to back up Campbell, Bailey and Taylor.

Thoughts?

No further than 3. Ruck prospects like him are rarer than Midfielders.

 

[macca69]

Fair enough, but I think it will be Gibbs. History says that most ruckman slip down the order on draft day, although there hasn't been a ruckman coming into a draft with this bigger reputation for some time.

Let me ask you this though. If Carlton do take Gibbs, where do you think Leuey will fall to? To me, it's down to 2. They are:

Port Adelaide - Have a history of taking ruckman and think that Leuey will be to good for them to pass up.

Hawthorn - Obvious replacement for Spida, and might want some more talent to back up Campbell, Bailey and Taylor.

Thoughts?

If Carlton don't take him (I think they will though), then Essendon and Brisbane would be keen on him also, I imagine.

 

[crowsarethebest]

I do not get why Carlton supporters against taking him @ 1. He is a great ruck prospect and ruckman of his quality don't come along that often. Is also very mobile and a good mark. Good around the ground and a very good at truck taps alredy. He is a rare type. ANother player like him won't be there very often.

 

[krisholio14]

yeh no doubting he is an amazing talent. It's just that with the quality of the draft, I find it hard to understand how people say someone is a certainty to go somewhere, when especially in this draft, there are no real certainties. Although I do agree that if he slipped out of the top 3 he would be a bargain, however I think there is a decent possibility that he could do just that, certaintly not out of the question in any case.

im with lingsface on this. i dont think he'll go one, but i cant see essendon or north passing on him. the thing ive liked most in what ive seen of gumby is hes got great hands on the deck for a big man, and knows how to get his teammates involved in the play. he takes a great pack mark for sure, but i like his ability to use his body to open things up for others. he really is the sort of player you look to build a side around, and i just cant see a club like north who sorely need a big CHF passing up a player with his prodigious talent.

 

[krisholio14]

I have to stick with my original opinion that I posted some weeks ago that Carlton will take either Leuenberger or Gibbs, that is if Hughes gets his way he'll take Leuenberger but if the Club gets it's way he'll take Gibbs. I agree it's difficult to predict what Sheedy will do but I just think that Gumbleton is too good a prospect to pass on and he might just prefer him to Gibbs.
Gibbs undoubtedly is a very good player/midfielder but he's not a first hands on centre clearance midfielder like Judd/Hasleby etc., moreso a second and subsequent user. That's how I see him anyway.

i wouldnt be surprised to see carlton taking leuenberger no 1. i dont know if ive said it before, but hes reminded me alot of a young, pre knee injury paul salmon, but with a bit more stamina and mobility in general play.

carlton have a dire need for two things, one is a ruckman who can give something around the ground (and in leuenbergers case someone who could take a turn in a key position), and two a ruck rover type who has quality disposal (gibbs). ill be very surprised if carlton dont take one of these two players with that first pick.

im also a little bemused about peoples assessments of gibbs as being solely an outside player, and therefore a little overrated. in what ive seen from him he definately has the ability to get the hard footy, but does he need to? he is excellent at the three things i think are essential for onball players in todays footy. he finds space at will, he makes good decisions with the ball in his hands, and his disposal is pinpoint. hes not the sort of player teams can run off because he is so damaging with his use of the pill. i wouldnt be looking to use him as an 'extractor' first and foremost because hed be being wasted in that role, even tho ive no doubts he could do it if required.

 

[YAKUZA]

im also a little bemused about peoples assessments of gibbs as being solely an outside player, and therefore a little overrated. in what ive seen from him he definately has the ability to get the hard footy, but does he need to? he is excellent at the three things i think are essential for onball players in todays footy. he finds space at will, he makes good decisions with the ball in his hands, and his disposal is pinpoint. hes not the sort of player teams can run off because he is so damaging with his use of the pill. i wouldnt be looking to use him as an 'extractor' first and foremost because hed be being wasted in that role, even tho ive no doubts he could do it if required.

My comment re Gibbs, and I'm assuming that you are referring to it, wasn't meant to be critical of his game or devalue his worth it was merely a facet of his game as I see it and was directed more at those who compare him to Judd. There is no shame being an outside Midfielder but unfortunately many who post on here seem to equate outside with being soft which is completely wrong.

 

[krisholio14]

My comment re Gibbs, and I'm assuming that you are referring to it, wasn't meant to be critical of his game or devalue his worth it was merely a facet of his game as I see it and was directed more at those who compare him to Judd. There is no shame being an outside Midfielder but unfortunately many who post on here seem to equate outside with being soft which is completely wrong.

it wasnt just your comment yak, theres been a lot of talk about him being 'overrated' for all the reasons youve outined that are being made by others. all i was really saying is that i think he can be an inside midfielder if needs be, i just dont think hes been used much in that manner because his other skills are so strong. if he does go to carlton i think a lot of people will be surprised with his ability to get first hands on it.

 

[JavaBlue]

im with lingsface on this. i dont think he'll go one, but i cant see essendon or north passing on him. the thing ive liked most in what ive seen of gumby is hes got great hands on the deck for a big man, and knows how to get his teammates involved in the play. he takes a great pack mark for sure, but i like his ability to use his body to open things up for others. he really is the sort of player you look to build a side around, and i just cant see a club like north who sorely need a big CHF passing up a player with his prodigious talent.

You'd reckon if Pagan was going to have a woody about anyone in the draft, it would be Gumby. This bloke's completely gone under the radar with Carlton and that would have everything to do with the presence of Kennedy. And it's not just because Kennedy is another CHF but because Gumby's assets and style of play seem almost identical to Kennedy's - except that based on the respective blurbs, Gumby's a bit quicker, a better mark and better kick.

While I don't think anyone could come up with a definitive 'best player' from the four draftees being mentioned here, suppose carlton did their sums and came up with Gumby as best. Would they still take him?

Could Carlton - say 5 yrs down the track - use Kennedy and Gumby as twin towers on the forward line? Or would it make them vulnerable once the ball hit the ground?

And on Leuey, does anyone think his lack of history - being a convert from basketball - counts against him. Could this year just be a purple patch for him?

 

[krisholio14]

You'd reckon if Pagan was going to have a woody about anyone in the draft, it would be Gumby. This bloke's completely gone under the radar with Carlton and that would have everything to do with the presence of Kennedy. And it's not just because Kennedy is another CHF but because Gumby's assets and style of play seem almost identical to Kennedy's - except that based on the respective blurbs, Gumby's a bit quicker, a better mark and better kick.

While I don't think anyone could come up with a definitive 'best player' from the four draftees being mentioned here, suppose carlton did their sums and came up with Gumby as best. Would they still take him?

Could Carlton - say 5 yrs down the track - use Kennedy and Gumby as twin towers on the forward line? Or would it make them vulnerable once the ball hit the ground?

And on Leuey, does anyone think his lack of history - being a convert from basketball - counts against him. Could this year just be a purple patch for him?

my thinking as far as carltons goes with gumby is that KP players are something they have a reasonable amount of. they desperately need skilled on ball players and a mobile ruckman. if someone other than carlton had first pick id be thinking gumby was a chance, but i just dont think hes carltons most pressing need.

as for leuenberger, unless you think hes going to go back to basketball, there will be absolutely no problems with his ability to have an AFL career of substance.