Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas Conflict

[Jazny]

I'm hopeful it's not a successful genocide.

If you're right and Israel is killing Gazans with genocidal intent, it already is a genocide even if the war stops now. Yes, they have only killed a fraction of the population, but if they did that with the intent to destroy the group or a portion of the group substantial enough to endanger the group's survival, then it's just called genocide.

 

[faible]

If you're right and Israel is killing Gazans with genocidal intent, it already is a genocide even if the war stops now. Yes, they have only killed a fraction of the population, but if they did that with the intent to destroy the group or a portion of the group substantial enough to endanger the group's survival, then it's just called genocide.

Sure, I'm fine with calling it a genocide then.

 

[faible]

I'd say you'll look one day back and wonder why I didn't speak out more against Iran and its genocidal crusade against Israel when a regional war breaks out.

If I were you I'd also wonder why much of the stuff I post is also repeated by the likes of Jackson Hinkle, The Grazyone, Russian government social media channels etc - known cookers that promote disinformation.

Sure Zidane, sure.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I'd say you'll look one day back

Commonly referred to as yesterday.

 

[jason_recliner]

Pretty much every post you make implies Israel are deliberately committing murder of Gazan civilians with Hamas not being a target at all. There are too many posts to quote so not going to bother.

You only had to post a few!

 

[Jazny]

You only had to post a few!

Took me two seconds to find this:

Hence my comment this is no longer a war with Hamas, it's a one sided bombardment and occupation of a defenceless effectively harmless civilian population. It needs to stop.

 

[Zidane98]

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This is a good thing. The more pressure to agree a cease fire the more likely it is to happen.

It seems Netanyahu wants to stay in the Philadelphi corridor post war which I do not agree with. I say as soon as all hostages / hostages remains have been released Israel needs to withdraw from Philadelphi corridor within 30 days max.



I do wonder how similar protests in Gaza against Hamas are dealt with.

 

[Zidane98]

Unfortunately this offer was knocked back by Sinwar (ironic last 3 letters of his name):

 

[faible]

Unfortunately this offer was knocked back by Sinwar (ironic last 3 letters of his name):

So many random twitter accounts supplied as sources for things.

 

[Jazny]

So many random twitter accounts supplied as sources for things.

Something we agree on

 

[jason_recliner]

Took me two seconds to find this:

Eh? It IS a one sided bombardment and occupation of a defenceless effectively harmless civilian population. It needs to stop.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

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This is a good thing. The more pressure to agree a cease fire the more likely it is to happen.

It seems Netanyahu wants to stay in the Philadelphi corridor post war which I do not agree with. I say as soon as all hostages / hostages remains have been released Israel needs to withdraw from Philadelphi corridor within 30 days max.



I do wonder how similar protests in Gaza against Hamas are dealt with.

The Philadelphi corridor provides the way for Hamas to receive arms supplies. How can Israel allow that to happen, after all this effort to shut Hamas down?

I admire your confidence that Hamas will or will agree to releasing the hostages, post a cease-fire. Your next post would seem to dash those hopes.

 

[sherb]

Let me guess, it's because I'm Hamas right?

One day you'll look back and be like 'why the **** did I spend months arguing with people that were opposed to the attempted genocide in Gaza'.

I admire your optimism.

 

[faible]

The Philadelphi corridor provides the way for Hamas to receive arms supplies. How can Israel allow that to happen, after all this effort to shut Hamas down?

I admire your confidence that Hamas will or will agree to releasing the hostages, post a cease-fire. Your next post would seem to dash those hopes.

The Fight for Control Over the Philadelphi Corridor

The increasingly bitter dispute has not just affected cease-fire talks but also destabilized a once-strong security partnership between Egypt and Israel.

www.nytimes.com

Nadav Argaman, a former director of Israel’s Shin Bet security agency, said in an interview with Israel’s Channel 12 that only “a very small amount of weapons” had been smuggled into Gaza through tunnels since Egypt acted to clear the border zone of tunnels and infrastructure. Most smuggling had instead occurred aboveground at the Rafah crossing, he said, adding that there was “no connection between the weapons in Gaza and the Philadelphi Corridor.”

Would be very unlike you to not check anything you write.

 

[Zidane98]

The Philadelphi corridor provides the way for Hamas to receive arms supplies. How can Israel allow that to happen, after all this effort to shut Hamas down?

I admire your confidence that Hamas will or will agree to releasing the hostages, post a cease-fire. Your next post would seem to dash those hopes.

Stiff shit. Israel should coordinate security with Egypt in that case and make efforts to work with the Arab league on governance of Gaza. There has to be some concessions from Israel otherwise there will be just more radicalisation, more terrorism and more Hamas. All of which are no good for anyone but Hamas.


I understand maintaining a presence until hostages have been returned but after that happens Israel has absolutely no business being there whatsover. Also, maybe the hostages would be released if Israel weren't demanding a permanent presence in the philadelphi corridor.

 

[Zidane98]

The Fight for Control Over the Philadelphi Corridor

The increasingly bitter dispute has not just affected cease-fire talks but also destabilized a once-strong security partnership between Egypt and Israel.

www.nytimes.com

Would be very unlike you to not check anything you write.

How do you believe Hamas are so heavily armed if it isn't via the Egypt / Gaza border?

 

[faible]

How do you believe Hamas are so heavily armed if it isn't via the Egypt / Gaza border?

You do understand I didn't write that article, nor am I Nadav Argaman who the quote is from.

Hamas has also heavily relied on other routes, including small fishing boats coming by sea and through the Kerem Shalom crossing between southern Gaza and Israel, three Israeli defense officials said.

In addition, perhaps you might want to reconsider how heavily armed you think Hamas is;

And Hamas has failed to import sophisticated anti-tank missiles, a sign that Egypt’s efforts to stamp out smuggling have had success, two of the three defense officials said. Most of Hamas’s weapons have been locally made, the officials said.

The article also mentions this, which seems well and truly in keeping with Netanyahu's actions:

Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, says the country must occupy the border area to prevent Hamas from smuggling weapons into the Gaza Strip from Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula. He has cast control of the Philadelphi Corridor, as the border zone is known, as a matter of existential importance for Israel, though some Israeli politicians believe he is using the issue to avoid reaching a deal for a cease-fire and the release of hostages.

 

[jason_recliner]

Hamas are so heavily armed

Too rich!!!

 

[jason_recliner]

Israeli strike on Gaza City home kills 11 people, civil defence agency says​

An IDF air strike on a Gaza City house where displaced Palestinians were taking refuge has killed 11 people, Gaza's civil defence ministry said.

The strike — on a house near the Shujaiya school in the Al-Tuffah neighbourhood — took place at around 1am local time.

At least 10 other people have reportedly also died in air strikes across Gaza overnight.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-14/israeli-strike-on-gaza-city-home/104352510

 

[faible]

3 Hostages Likely Killed by Israeli Strike Last Fall, I.D.F. Says

An inquiry into the deaths of three Israeli hostages determined that they probably died as a result of a military airstrike targeting a Hamas commander.

www.nytimes.com

So it's taken about 10 months for this to be confirmed / admitted.

 

[faible]

Israeli Strike in Gaza Kills 18, Officials Say, Including 6 U.N. Workers

While resuming its offensive against militants in the West Bank, Israel also kept up its bombardment of the Gaza Strip, striking a school building used as a shelter for displaced people.

www.nytimes.com

Also this.

Israel has increasingly been targeting such schools, with analysts saying that its military has largely destroyed Hamas’s network of tunnels, forcing more fighters above ground.

So they've destroyed the tunnels, and are now bombing more schools.

 

[sherb]

3 Hostages Likely Killed by Israeli Strike Last Fall, I.D.F. Says

An inquiry into the deaths of three Israeli hostages determined that they probably died as a result of a military airstrike targeting a Hamas commander.

www.nytimes.com

So it's taken about 10 months for this to be confirmed / admitted.

How many hostages have Israel actually rescued alive as a result of their strategy of mass murder and destruction I wonder?

 

[sherb]

So they've destroyed the tunnels, and are now bombing more schools.

They ran out of hospitals to obliterate.

So, instead of bombing the s*** out of the sick and those caring for them, they are now bombing the s*** out of kids and those teaching them.

 

[jason_recliner]

How many hostages have Israel actually rescued alive as a result of their strategy of mass murder and destruction I wonder?

8, IIRC.

 

[faible]

They ran out of hospitals to obliterate.

So, instead of bombing the s*** out of the sick and those caring for them, they are now bombing the s*** out of kids and those teaching them.

FWIW the schools haven't held classes since October according to the NYT article linked.

They're just shelters now. Apparently this school has been hit five times as well.

The Gaza Civil Defense emergency services said that those killed included women and children and that, in addition to 18 confirmed dead, a similar number were wounded, some of them critically. It said the strike was the fifth time the school, which housed displaced people, had been hit during the war.