Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas Conflict

[DapperDon]

Not to mention the fact that Hamas & Hezbollah have official terrorist organisation classification. It is also important to note that the Arab League also classifies Hezbollah as a terrorist group.

Nobody is denying they are terrorists, it's weird you keep bringing it up.

 

[Zidane98]

Yep, worth considering that 100+ countries regularly vote against Israel but USA vetoes every vote. It's not International Law but rather US and Israeli 'law'.

False.


There are plenty of security resolutions that the US does not veto.


Here's a list of some (but no means all) UNSC resolutions against Israel that the US either abstained from or voted for:

Abstaining from history: Here’s all the UN RESOLUTIONS on Israel the US abstained on

By SETH J. FRANTZMAN You’d think it was a major event in US history. “Them against the world,” CNN claimed after a UN resolution condemning Israeli settlements passed with a US ve…

sethfrantzman.com

 

[Zidane98]

Nobody is denying they are terrorists, it's weird you keep bringing it up.

It's not being brought up. The discussion is over what and who is legally classified as terrorists. It is significant that the Arab League also classifies Hezbollah as terrorists.


Other posters seem to be happy to go off "the vibe" for their own classification but I myself prefer to stick to factual information.

 

[faible]

Not to mention the fact that Hamas & Hezbollah have official terrorist organisation classification. It is also important to note that the Arab League also classifies Hezbollah as a terrorist group.

Not sure it makes Israel's atrocities any less atrocious if they're not 'officially' classified as a terrorist organisation. If you're spending your time doing things like decimating civilian areas with intense bombing campaigns, slaughtering women and children, and detonating mobile devices in uncontrolled and unknown spaces, you're a terrorist organisation. We just deem it different when the military of a nation state is doing it for <reasons>.

 

[Zidane98]

You might be happy to do that but there are legal distinctions between them.

Israel is not a proscribed terrorist organisation, if what they're doing probably looks like it.

Absolutely spot on.

 

[faible]

Other posters seem to be happy to go off "the vibe" for their own classification but I myself prefer to stick to factual information.

 

[faible]

Absolutely spot on.

'if what they're doing it looks like it' means they're doing terrorism.

 

[DapperDon]

So terrorists are only terrorists if USA says so?

Flawless

 

[jason_recliner]

False.


There are plenty of security resolutions that the US does not veto.


Here's a list of some (but no means all) UNSC resolutions against Israel that the US either abstained from or voted for:

Abstaining from history: Here’s all the UN RESOLUTIONS on Israel the US abstained on

By SETH J. FRANTZMAN You’d think it was a major event in US history. “Them against the world,” CNN claimed after a UN resolution condemning Israeli settlements passed with a US ve…

sethfrantzman.com

Abstain/veto tomato/tomato. Your 8+ year old article is very relevant to current events. Good one!

 

[Zidane98]

Your 8+ year old article is very relevant to current events. Good one!

Yes, there have been plenty of resolutions since that the US has either voted for or abstained from against Israel.



And it is absolutely relevant to your claim that the US always vetos resolutions against Israel. Which is clearly not true.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Yes, there have been plenty of resolutions since that the US has either voted for or abstained from against Israel.



And it is absolutely relevant to your claim that the US always vetos resolutions against Israel. Which is clearly not true.

How many times has Israel been condemned by the UN in the past decade?

Here’s a chart to help you count

 

[faible]

Yes, there have been plenty of resolutions since that the US has either voted for or abstained from against Israel.



And it is absolutely relevant to your claim that the US always vetos resolutions against Israel. Which is clearly not true.

The below are the vetoes the US has used since 2016.

The full list is on Wikipedia, you can see where the US is using it's veto power.

List of vetoed United Nations Security Council resolutions - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Kurve]

'if what they're doing it looks like it' means they're doing terrorism.

The technicalities matter if you want to try and see criminal acts followed through on for accountability.

 

[faible]

The technicalities matter if you want to try and see criminal acts followed through on for accountability.

When you've got the US veto'ing things, lobby groups spending millions to ensure the 'right' politicians are elected, and leaning on foreign countries to withdraw cases or vote the 'right' way. Then you can't simply rely on the criminal system to provide any level of accountability, let alone set your moral compass right.

Not saying you specifically, but there's definitely a number of posters who are clinging on to the 'technicalities' as evidence that what Israel is doing is justified and reasonable.

 

[faible]

I see Jazny thinks the US veto'ing resolutions critical of Israel is hilarious.

 

[Jazny]

I see Jazny thinks the US veto'ing resolutions critical of Israel is hilarious.

Your understanding of the entire process is.

 

[faible]

Your understanding of the entire process is.

Process is simple: Israel commits war crimes. Jazny laughs.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

On that subject, Israel are challenging the ICCs juristiction and legality of the requests for arrest warrants against Mileikowsky and Gallant. Mainly based on the fact that the ICC failed to provide Israel with the right to investigate them itself before proceeding.

The world rolls it's eyes.

 

[Jazny]

Process is simple: Israel commits war crimes. Jazny laughs.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Bit harsh. It's more like:

Process is simple: Israel commits war crimes. Jazny refrains from commenting.

Very vocal about anything else though.

 

[Jazny]

Very vocal about anything else though.

What breaking news stories am I constantly being vocal about?

 

[sherb]

When you've got the US veto'ing things, lobby groups spending millions to ensure the 'right' politicians are elected, and leaning on foreign countries to withdraw cases or vote the 'right' way. Then you can't simply rely on the criminal system to provide any level of accountability, let alone set your moral compass right.

Not saying you specifically, but there's definitely a number of posters who are clinging on to the 'technicalities' as evidence that what Israel is doing is justified and reasonable.

Yep, as if Israel is ever going to be held accountable for its atrocities when it's got the USA protecting it.

40,000+ slaughtered by Israel in Gaza, now they have started to do the same thing in Lebanon and we all know they will get away with it.