Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas - Hezbollah - Houthis

[Ghost Patrol]

This is what you hang your hat on? Lol.

Palestinian land laws - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Most notably, these laws prohibit Palestinians from selling any Palestinian-owned lands to "any man or judicial body corporation of Israeli citizenship, living in Israel or acting on its behalf"


Of course this has never been raised as an apartheid measure by yourself, one can only imagine the reason why....

The article you link relates to the West Bank where Israeli settlers just kill/displace Palestinians and steal the land.

That's what you hang your hat on, West Bank settler terrorists?

 

[Zidane98]

The article you link relates to the West Bank where Israeli settlers just kill/displace Palestinians and steal the land.

That's what you hang your hat on, West Bank settler terrorists?

No, they should be sent to prison and the key thrown away.


It is obvious to all in this thread why you label Israel as an apartheid regime where anyone can buy land but refuse to do so to Palestinian territory where it is against the law to sell property willingly to anyone who is a citizen of Israel.

 

[jason_recliner]

No, they should be sent to prison and the key thrown away.


It is obvious to all in this thread why you label Israel as an apartheid regime where anyone can buy land but refuse to do so to Palestinian territory where it is against the law to sell property willingly to anyone who is a citizen of Israel.

I don't know anything about Gaza property regulations but GP is saying no foreign nationals can buy land there. That's not unusual - lots of developing countries have similar laws. Are you saying he's incorrect? Only sales to Israelis are prohibited?

 

[Ghost Patrol]

No, they should be sent to prison and the key thrown away.


It is obvious to all in this thread why you label Israel as an apartheid regime where anyone can buy land but refuse to do so to Palestinian territory where it is against the law to sell property willingly to anyone who is a citizen of Israel.

I label Israel as an apartheid regime because all the human rights organisations label Israel as an apartheid regime.

Amnesty International, United Nations, Human Rights Watch etc etc.

Why do you disagree with all these organisations?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

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Your meme is wrong btw. There are lots of laws about the sale of land to non-Jews.

Off the Map: Land and Housing Rights Violations in Israel’s Unrecognized Bedouin Villages: IV. Discrimination in Land Allocation and Access

Here's 4 pages of discriminatory laws, by definition and by nature, and extended information on each of them.

Discriminatory Laws in Israel - Adalah

Adalah (Justice in Arabic) is the first non-profit, non- sectarian Palestinian-run legal center in Israel. Established in November 1996, Adalah serves the Palestinian community nationwide, over one million people or 20% of the population.

www.adalah.org

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

No war crimes to be found here.

Violent "megalomaniac" Sinwar steers Hamas towards an even more radical path.

After Yahya Sinwar, the man responsible for launching the October 7 attacks on Israel, took full control of Hamas in August, Arab intelligence officials say he sent a directive to a senior operative: Now is the time to revive suicide bombings.

For years, Hamas had been split between hardliners such as Sinwar, who view the deaths of civilians as necessary to destabilise Israel, and militants who countenance violence but want the group to preserve some political legitimacy as a route to achieving its aims of a Palestinian state. Sinwar is now imposing his more violent vision on Hamas as the Israeli military squeezes the group in Gaza.

Following the 40-day Islamic period of mourning for Haniyeh, Sinwar sent letters in his name to Hezbollah, Yemen’s Houthis and others who have supported Hamas. Hamas is prepared for a long war of attrition to break Israel’s will, he wrote in one letter.

The efforts will pave the way for Israel’s demise, he wrote, before quoting the Koran: “And they ask, ‘When will that be?’ Say, ‘Perhaps it will be soon.’ ”

VIOLENT ‘MEGALOMANIAC’ SINWAR

VIOLENT ‘MEGALOMANIAC’ SINWAR

todayspaper.theaustralian.com.au

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Jazny here's one of the 'roll in the mud' junketeers doing reverse journalism

 

[Jazny]

Jazny here's one of the 'roll in the mud' junketeers doing reverse journalism

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Really exciting stuff, thanks for sharing.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Really exciting stuff, thanks for sharing.

No worries. Seen it on twitter and my first thought was 'Jazny would appreciate this'

 

[Jazny]

No worries. Seen it on twitter and my first thought was 'Jazny would appreciate this'

Yes it is very ground breaking and completely changes my perception on everything.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

That's a lot of war criminals. They posted a lot of the evidence to their own social media accounts.

Historic ICC War Crimes Complaint Names 1,000 Israeli Soldiers | Common Dreams

"This complaint is not only the largest ever submitted to the ICC, but it is also a milestone in documenting Israeli war crimes for future generations."

www.commondreams.org

 

[Kurve]

That's a lot of war criminals. They posted a lot of the evidence to their own social media accounts.

Historic ICC War Crimes Complaint Names 1,000 Israeli Soldiers | Common Dreams

"This complaint is not only the largest ever submitted to the ICC, but it is also a milestone in documenting Israeli war crimes for future generations."

www.commondreams.org

It's interesting they've identified some French and at least 12 Belgium IDF with dual citizenship they intend to petition the courts to prosecute in those countries respectively.

So should they fail in the ICC which I think they might unless some are identified as Command, there's another chance.

 

[Jazny]

It's interesting they've identified some French and at least 12 Belgium IDF with dual citizenship they intend to petition the courts to prosecute in those countries respectively.

So should they fail in the ICC which I think they might, there's another chance.

The ICC is really only for cases where individuals belong to countries that for whatever reason refuse to or don't have the capability to prosecute individuals for war crimes. The state they belong to's courts would prosecute them first, but if for whatever reason they refuse to, then the ICC can try the case.

So from my understanding in the case of a dual national serving in the IDF, war crimes should go through Israeli courts first, but if Israel refuses to fulfill their obligations with respect to an individual accused of war crimes, then their second country France or Belgium could take the case, if again they don't then finally the ICC could step in.

 

[Kurve]

The ICC is really only for cases where individuals belong to countries that for whatever reason refuse to or don't have the capability to prosecute individuals for war crimes. The state they belong to's courts would prosecute them first, but if for whatever reason they refuse to, then the ICC can try the case.

So from my understanding in the case of a dual national serving in the IDF, war crimes should go through Israeli courts first, but if Israel refuses to fulfill their obligations with respect to an individual accused of war crimes, then their second country France or Belgium could take the case, if again they don't then finally the ICC could step in.

They claim to have gone straight to the ICC?

 

[Demons09]

I could be wrong but don’t several countries not recognise the ICC including the US and Israel and it has no jurisdiction over them.

 

[Jazny]

They claim to have gone straight to the ICC?

The foundation's argument will be that Israel is failing its obligation to prosecute soldiers for war crimes. Under the principles of complementarity Israel's courts should take those cases, but they could argue that Israel is making no effort to investigate the soldiers.

In the case of Netenyahu, I think the court will accept that argument when it comes to his charges. Israel seems to be making no effort to investigate him for war crimes, so the ICC can probably proceed with the case. I don't know if that argument will hold for low ranking soldiers or not, the ICC may allow the Israeli court system to handle the cases first.

Nevertheless for dual citizens, their cases would go before the courts of their second nation if Israel refuse, before they would go before the ICC.

This is my understanding, I am not an expert, but I think it's right.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I could be wrong but don’t several countries not recognise the ICC including the US and Israel and it has no jurisdiction over them.

Depends where the crimes are committed.

 

[Jazny]

I could be wrong but don’t several countries not recognise the ICC including the US and Israel and it has no jurisdiction over them.

The ICC still has jurisdiction over any crimes they commit in the territories controlled by members to the ICC. Palestine is a member now. So Israeli soldiers could be prosecuted by the ICC for war crimes they commit in Gaza and the West Bank.

 

[Bostonian]

I label Israel as an apartheid regime because all the human rights organisations label Israel as an apartheid regime.

How are they an apartheid regime when their political system has non-Jewish politicians and parties?

They literally have a communist Muslim politician in the Knesset.

That wouldn't happen under an apartheid regime.

 

[Kurve]

How are they an apartheid regime when their political system has non-Jewish politicians and parties?

They literally have a communist Muslim politician in the Knesset.

That wouldn't happen under an apartheid regime.

When you think of apartheid, you need to also factor in the Occupied Palestinian Territories and it becomes clearer.

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians

Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...

www.amnesty.org

World Court Finds Israel Responsible for Apartheid

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) issued an advisory opinion on July 19, 2024, with significant consequences for human rights protections in Palestine under Israel’s 57-year occupation. The opinion stems from a December 2022 request by the United Nations General Assembly to the court to...

www.hrw.org

 

[Bostonian]

When you think of apartheid, you need to also factor in the Occupied Palestinian Territories and it becomes clearer.

Israel's apartheid against Palestinians

Palestinians are systematically subjected to home demolitions and forced evictions, and live in constant fear of losing their homes. For more than 73 years, Israel has been forcibly displacing entire Palestinian communities. Hundreds of thousands of Palestinians’ homes have been demolished...

www.amnesty.org

World Court Finds Israel Responsible for Apartheid

The International Court of Justice (ICJ) issued an advisory opinion on July 19, 2024, with significant consequences for human rights protections in Palestine under Israel’s 57-year occupation. The opinion stems from a December 2022 request by the United Nations General Assembly to the court to...

www.hrw.org

I think of apartheid as it is.

"Article 2 defines the crime of apartheid –“which shall include similar policies and practices of racial segregation and discrimination as practised in southern Africa” – as covering “inhuman acts committed for the purpose of establishing and maintaining domination by one racial group of persons over any other racial ..."


There is no segregation of Arabs from Jews in Israel. No policy that stops them partaking in the political process of the nation, getting jobs etc.

There is also no racial group in play. Both groups are descended from the same peoples.

 

[Kurve]

The former PM of Israel, Ehud Barak, towards the end of this interview.

"Netanyahu is politically held in what I call the unholy alliance with extremist, racist, messianic nuts in his government, who wants basically, the vision to ignite a full scale clash about the Temple Mount to turn our whole conflict with the Palestinians which is basically political and territorial, in to a religious war against the whole Islam world."

"And basically, that's our mistake."

He goes on to cite three main failures of the Netanyahu government which ignited October 7, one of them was sidelining the relevant parties in the OPT through the peace deal negotiations. Worth a listen I think.

 

[Jazny]

How are they an apartheid regime when their political system has non-Jewish politicians and parties?

They literally have a communist Muslim politician in the Knesset.

That wouldn't happen under an apartheid regime.

Israel proper is not an apartheid state, the whole argument should really be about whether Israel's discriminatory policies in the West Bank qualify as apartheid.

 

[Thrawn]

No, not what do you want to happen to the leaders. To Israel, the country. The sovereign democratic nation fighting to survive against seven fronts of terrorist militias under the sponsorship of Iran, a theocracy.

I answered your question. Replace your leaders for a better Israel.

 

[treeebeard]

Israel proper is not an apartheid state, the whole argument should really be about whether Israel's discriminatory policies in the West Bank qualify as apartheid.

Israel has a litany of laws that constitute apartheid, which began with the JNF law and continued developing laws to oppress since then.