Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas - Hezbollah - Houthis

[Kurve]

Yeah a bit biased... I doubt they 'unanimously praise Israel' but that's just from the Vin's article, I don't know who they are but the video they are writing about wasn't produced by them. It was produced by Israel's Channel 12, which is fairly trustworthy I think.

It popped up on youtube earlier. I don't know what to make of it but it was interesting to hear what at least some of them apparently had to say.

Devastating.

I've felt this was true for a long time, two young men talking about how Hamas operates. "And shoot you in a way that will leave you handicapped".

 

[Zidane98]

I daresay the world and attitudes have changed vastly in the 30 years since then. I'm not sure that Islamism has though.

Islam has moved on quite a bit since 30 years ago. Plenty of progressive ME states plus plenty of secular states also. 30 years ago ME tourism to westerners was pretty much non existent. Totally different story these days.


Radical Islamicist groups like the supreme leadership of Iran, Hamas, ISIS, Hezbollah etc are the problem. Wherever they rule there is war. They are not representative of Islam in general and should be viewed as extremist outsiders. The world is a better place the more their power & influence is curtailed.

 

[Zidane98]

In this case Israel worked with WHO to evacuate Gazans for treatment to UAE & Romania

 

[jason_recliner]

In this case Israel worked with WHO to evacuate Gazans for treatment to UAE & Romania

How did they select the 231 from the 100,000+ they have maimed / starved / abused / r*ped?

 

[Zidane98]

How did they select the 231 from the 100,000+that Hamas have maimed / starved / abused tortured / r*ped?

They would have taken more but your mates in Gaza have been torturing, executing Gazan civilians en masse, murdering thousands with failed rocket attacks.

 

[jason_recliner]

They would have taken more but your mates in Gaza have been torturing, executing Gazan civilians en masse, murdering thousands with failed rocket attacks.

Good one, champ!

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

How did they select the 231 from the 100,000+ they have maimed / starved / abused / r*ped?

Let's celebrate the IDF saying 'Yes' to the WHO this time.

Wahoooooo

 

[DapperDon]

While Hamas continues to exploit Gazans, including children, as human shields and Egypt refuses to open the Rafah Border Crossing, Israel continues to demonstrate compassion for innocent civilians in Gaza.

JFC

 

[DapperDon]

They would have taken more but your mates in Gaza have been torturing, executing Gazan civilians en masse, murdering thousands with failed rocket attacks.

You got the numbers of each civilian death and by which terror group?

Fill these in

Hamas - *insert death number here
IDF - *insert death number here

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

ffs you realise those interviews are done under duress? IDF escorts the TV crew and guns are likely pointed towards those refugees, yeah ?

How can there be no response to this, at all, in this thread?

How can not a single person have watched this and expressed their disgust?

You can find time to watch and reply about a video of an Israeli asking ridiculous patronising questions of Palestinian civilians, but not this.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

More harrowing testimony from this gentleman.

 

[Kurve]

How can there be no response to this, at all, in this thread?

How can not a single person have watched this and expressed their disgust?

You can find time to watch and reply about a video of an Israeli asking ridiculous patronising questions of Palestinian civilians, but not this.

We know these things are happening and yes it's horrific but we know it.

What is new to me, outside of random one-of clips where I couldn't trust the translations, is a group of people willing to condemn Hamas.

It made me sick hearing that little boy screaming at Hamas because not only does it put him in danger, it didn't sound natural.

As for the accusations of Hamas shooting their people in the legs, 100% I believe it.

Maybe it should also be a war crime to use automated drones that are movement activated, programmed to shoot anything that moves after a strike.

 

[Jazny]

Maybe it should also be a war crime to use automated drones that are movement activated, programmed to shoot anything that moves after a strike.

What you described would be a war crime if it was happening or happened.

 

[Kurve]

What you described would be a war crime if it was happening or happened.

I looked in to it yesterday and the suggestion was, that the drones they sent in after a strike were automated. Someone needs to get hold of one of them and check.

 

[Jazny]

I looked in to it yesterday and the suggestion was, that the drones they sent in after a strike were automated. Someone needs to get hold of one of them and check.

If what he describes hearing from the children is true, I don't think it will be hard for an investigative body to find out about it. It would 100% be a war crime.

I tried to find other testimony of any kind of autonomous drones being used by Israel and I couldn't find much from any official human rights group or much at all really. If anyone has anything concrete about this I will look into it more.

 

[Kurve]

If what he describes hearing from the children is true, I don't think it will be hard for an investigative body to find out about it. It would 100% be a war crime.

I tried to find other testimony of any kind of autonomous drones being used by Israel and I couldn't find much from any official human rights group or much at all really. If anyone has anything concrete about this I will look into it more.

I'd think deliberately targeting a child to shoot with a drone after a strike might be a war crime as well?

 

[Jazny]

I'd think deliberately targeting a child to shoot with a drone after a strike might be a war crime as well?

Yes if it's deliberate then 100%. You can't deliberately directly target civilians of any kind unless they are directly participating in hostilities.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

The drones are remotely piloted guys. They've been using them for many years.

Gaza: Israel systematically uses quadcopters to kill Palestinians from a close distance [EN/AR] - occupied Palestinian territory

News and Press Release in Arabic on occupied Palestinian territory about Protection and Human Rights; published on 19 Feb 2024 by Euro-Med Monitor

reliefweb.int

Gaza: Israeli army expands its use of quadcopters to kill more Palestinian civilians

Israel has been ramping up its use of small drones, or quadcopters, to drop explosive bombs and “shoot to kill” more Palestinians.

euromedmonitor.org

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Even the IDF are starting to think they've gone too far.

IDF probing if it killed hundreds in north Gaza in contravention of international law

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www.haaretz.com

Of course these will inevitably be covered up, but it's something.

 

[Kurve]

Even the IDF are starting to think they've gone too far.

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IDF probing if it killed hundreds in north Gaza in contravention of international law

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www.haaretz.com

Of course these will inevitably be covered up, but it's something.

Why probe if it's only to be covered up?

 

[Jazny]

Why probe if it's only to be covered up?

Because the principle of complementarity means potential war crimes are only tried at the ICC if the judiciary of their own country fails to investigate or doesn't do so substantively. So it's possible that Israel probes potential war crimes committed by their own soldiers softly in order that they aren't sent to the ICC.

The ICC can still assess if the country is investigating it's own war crimes adequately, but the process is more complicated than if they simply refused to investigate their own forces.

This is playing out in the case of Netanyahu's arrest warrant. There is an argument from Israel that Israel's own judiciary should be investigation his case first before the ICC intervenes and therefore should be dismissed under the principle of complementarity, but because their is no investigation at all into Netanyahu from Israel, the ICC will likely reject that argument.