Because the territory is disputed by Jewish people.
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Because the territory is disputed by Jewish people.
Is it?
Pre 1967 Gaza was Egyptian territory and the West Bank was Jordanian.
Seems like its an oft contested territory.
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What's today's date, Gramps?
That has little relevance to the ME mindset.
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Try and make this argument without referencing UN general assembly resolutions that have nothing to do with international law.
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Try to keep up. The legality of Israel's occupation is being discussed, not your preconceived racist notions of how somebody must think because of where they live or pray to.
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That long list of pesky resolutions that you keep trying to delete from existence.
What racism?
I look forward to your clueless explanation on this.
Especially as it's you who can't seem to keep up.
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You do know that right?
According to Article 10 of the UN Charter, which defines the functions and powers of the GA, “The General Assembly may discuss any questions or any matters within the scope of the present Charter or relating to the powers and functions of any organs provided for in the present Charter, and … may make recommendations to the Members of the United Nations or the SC or to both on any such questions or matters.” In other words, resolutions adopted by the GA on agenda items are considered to be recommendations. They are not legally binding on the Member States. The only resolutions that have the potential to be legally binding are those adopted by the SC.
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The events that led to the Lebanese Civil War was the massacre and cleansing of Palestinians during the Nakba, forcing them to seek refuge in Lebanon, and again in 1967. Probably even further to the French mandate where the seeds were really planted.
Do you actually believe Israelis are the rightful inhabitants of Judea and Samaria?
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You do know that right?
According to Article 10 of the UN Charter, which defines the functions and powers of the GA, “The General Assembly may discuss any questions or any matters within the scope of the present Charter or relating to the powers and functions of any organs provided for in the present Charter, and … may make recommendations to the Members of the United Nations or the SC or to both on any such questions or matters.” In other words, resolutions adopted by the GA on agenda items are considered to be recommendations. They are not legally binding on the Member States. The only resolutions that have the potential to be legally binding are those adopted by the SC.
Here's the UNSC resolutions that Israel and Jazny have ignored
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On what basis are they disputing it?
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You do know that right?
According to Article 10 of the UN Charter, which defines the functions and powers of the GA, “The General Assembly may discuss any questions or any matters within the scope of the present Charter or relating to the powers and functions of any organs provided for in the present Charter, and … may make recommendations to the Members of the United Nations or the SC or to both on any such questions or matters.” In other words, resolutions adopted by the GA on agenda items are considered to be recommendations. They are not legally binding on the Member States. The only resolutions that have the potential to be legally binding are those adopted by the SC.
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That list is from 2007, there are quite a few more after that. Jazny knows this.
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You seem to think the Maronites and Phalangists were innocent parties in this war? Look up the Karantina Massacre and the Christian Lebanese Front. This is probably what really escalated already simmering sectarian tensions.
I don't claim to be an expert, the PLOs presence and activites were certainly a big factor.
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No why?
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Yes it's awkward that you don't know what you're talking about. You made a claim and can't support it, now you're trying to meme your way out of it. So go ahead and argue your point using international law or leave it to Lunchlady Doris who I was talking to and who usually does actually do the reading and might have good objections to what I said.
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Yes, and it was because British intelligence were convinced that Israel's war crimes being committed with those weapons were so flagrant that the UK government risked being held accountable as a party to them.
Again with the deflection. Your tiresome gaslighting may have worked 12 months ago, but nobody other than racists with anti-Arab views and Zionist maniacs buy the BS propaganda coming from Israeli talking points. Nobody wants to hear it. We all have eyes and a brain to figure out who the real problem is.
The ME as one state was peaceful before the Israelis, British, French and Saudis, including for Jews and Christians under Islamic rulership as they had protection via Islamic Laws. In fact, Jews historically fled Christian persecution to go to Islamic countries to live under their protection.
I wonder what the indigenous populations in Australia and the Americas say about how they lived before Western colonialism? Ask them how it affected indigenous stability and prosperity? You know who did treat the Australian indigenous populations with respect long before the Brits came to Australia? Muslims who had regular contact with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders and established positive working relations with them. So who destroyed the Indigenous population and committed atrocities? I'll let you answer that.
The country where I'm from in Africa wasn't dysfunctional before Western colonialism.
The common denominator is western colonialism and the Israeli state is just a current colonial project. The Palestinian people are just another long list of victims.
The Israelis, Saudis (both US allies borne from British origins) and the Iranians are the three problems in the Middle East as well as the West who fund the first two.
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Nice try but GP already did that - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...hamas-hizbullah-houthis.1375868/post-85597413
That's what's awkward for you.
You can't win, you can't turn the discussion around. You're defending an illegal occupation.
That happened in 1976.
The Palestinian insurgents were already attacking the Lebanese in 1975.
The first case of ethnic cleansing in Lebanon happened two days after Karantina, in Damour.
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So that's about 65 years after the zionists started ethnic cleansing in Palestine?
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That list has literally nothing to do with your claim that "Illegal occupiers are legitimate legal targets of resistance". Are you lost?
How is that list awkward for me? It's an accurate list of binding UN security council resolutions that Israel have violated in that time period. With the exception of 250 from memory, which was a non-binding resolution with regards to some military parade the council advised Israel not to hold in Jerusalem but Israel did it anyway. It's totally irrelevant to anything being said and not awkward for me in the slightest.
