Current WAR CRIMES Israel - * ICC issues warrants for Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & Yoav Gallant & for Hamas's Mohammed Deif

[Kurve]

The ICC has also issued a warrant for Hamas leader Mohammed Deif, who Israel says they have killed.

According to the ICC, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that Deif was “responsible for the crimes against humanity of murder; extermination; torture; and rape and other form of sexual violence; as well as the war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, torture; taking hostages; outrages upon personal dignity; and rape and other form of sexual violence”.

It also said there were reasonable grounds to believe the crimes against humanity were “part of a widespread and systematic attack directed by Hamas and other armed groups against the civilian population of Israel”.

For Netanyahu and Gallant, who was replaced as defence minister earlier this month, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that they “each bear criminal responsibility for the following crimes as co-perpetrators for committing the acts jointly with others: the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts”.

It also found reasonable grounds to believe that “each bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population”.




INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT

INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT - Elements of Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes

 

[Zidane98]

Hasn't been reported on much in this thread but Hamas has ramped up attacks on PA in West Bank.

 

[treeebeard]

Hasn't been reported on much in this thread but Hamas has ramped up attacks on PA in West Bank.

I had thought that the increased terror attacks from Israelis in the occupied west bank would weaken Abbas' grip and escalate things in that area.

 

[DapperDon]

Hasn't been reported on much in this thread but Hamas has ramped up attacks on PA in West Bank.

You need to stop quoting this fraud, he's been called out many many times for lying

 

[faible]

You need to stop quoting this fraud, he's been called out many many times for lying

Quoting random twitter accounts with no supporting information from any mainstream media outlet or primary sources as reliable fact seems sketchy.

Of course he'd demand a significantly higher standard of proof for anything that makes Israel looks bad.

 

[Jazny]

Quoting random twitter accounts with no supporting information from any mainstream media outlet or primary sources as reliable fact seems sketchy.

Careful, Ghost Patrol will be calling you junket faible if you keep having sensible takes like that

 

[Zidane98]

You need to stop quoting this fraud, he's been called out many many times for lying

A Palestinian human rights advocate is a fraud? I'm smelling bs here on your part.

We know your play, any Palestinian source that makes Hamas look bad will be dismissed by you as a fraud.

 

[Zidane98]

Sounds like a deal is close. Fingers crossed.

 

[faible]

From this article

Report: Hamas agrees to release 11 young men in first phase of hostage deal with Israel

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www.haaretz.com

A Palestinian source involved in the negotiations told Haaretz that Israel is demanding that Hamas release 11 hostages beyond the initial list of 34 it requested. According to the source, Abera Mengitsu and Hisham al-Sayed – both of whom were being held in Gaza prior to the October 7 attack – are among these 11 hostages. While Israel considers them humanitarian cases, Hamas views them as young men of military draft age.

The source added that Hamas responded to Israel's demand with its own request to change the criteria for releasing Palestinian prisoners and increase the number of prisoners to be released. There is growing speculation among families of prisoners that most of them will be sent abroad if released, and that they will have no option to refuse release under these conditions.

Whether Israel is demanding the release of 34 hostages or 45, it is possible that the numbers mentioned in various reports include bodies. Israel is not certain about the number of living hostages, which makes it difficult to set maximalist demands for their release. In Israel, there is speculation regarding the condition of some of the hostages. For some hostages, there is no information on their condition at all.

National Unity Party leader Benny Gantz said on Sunday that "While the negotiators are working, Netanyahu is once again sabotaging [the hostage release talks," adding that "We are in sensitive days – life and death [hang in the balance]."
"Like Netanyahu said just a week ago, 'the less we speak [about the negotiations], the better.' And like a rerun, Netanyahu is once again running to the foreign media and speaking [about the talks]," Gantz continued. Addressing Netanyahu directly, he added: "You have no mandate to once again thwart the return of our hostages for political reasons. Returning the hostages is the right thing to do in terms of humanity, security, and nationally."

 

[Kurve]

From this article

Report: Hamas agrees to release 11 young men in first phase of hostage deal with Israel

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www.haaretz.com

Benny Gantz is politicking, I don't think Netanyahu is going to get caught sabotaging any hostage release deals tbh and risk dying in prison or assassination from within.

Netanyahu would do a couple of years jail easy but he won't want to die in one and he absolutely would be held to account. imo.

 

[faible]

I don't think Netanyahu is going to get caught sabotaging any hostage release deals

Kurve plz.

 

[Kurve]

Kurve plz.

You think there won't be years of inquiries after this where everything he did and said through this won't be examined?

The core of Israeli law is derived from the British legal system. I think many forget that.

 

[faible]

You think there won't be years of inquiries after this where everything he did and said through this won't be examined?

The core of Israeli law is derived from the British legal system. I think many forget that.

You don't think Netanyahu has held up, delayed, or made demands so impossible to meet that hostage deals or ceasefires have been torpedoed?

I've got a bridge to sell you.

This is the same Netanyahu up on corruption charges, the same one that tried to push through a law allowing the Knesset to overrule the Supreme Court. He's about as trustworthy as Trump.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

You think there won't be years of inquiries after this where everything he did and said through this won't be examined?

The core of Israeli law is derived from the British legal system. I think many forget that.

He's got the Knesset constantly voting to avoid any form of oversight.

He has blocked hostage deals consistently since this started.

 

[Kurve]

You don't think Netanyahu has held up, delayed, or made demands so impossible to meet that hostage deals or ceasefires have been torpedoed?

I've got a bridge to sell you.

This is the same Netanyahu up on corruption charges, the same one that tried to push through a law allowing the Knesset to overrule the Supreme Court. He's about as trustworthy as Trump.

I said he wasn't going to get caught

 

[Kurve]

He's got the Knesset constantly voting to avoid any form of oversight.

He has blocked hostage deals consistently since this started.

Has Hamas ever offered to release the hostages unconditionally?

 

[faible]

I said he wasn't going to get caught

The bloke is up on corruption charges and has an ICC arrest warrant against him. He's already been 'caught'.

It's now just self preservation. No different to Trump. A ceasefire doesn't help Bibi or his crusade for a biblical Israel.

 

[faible]

Has Hamas ever offered to release the hostages unconditionally?

No, but why would they? No one is under any illusion that Hamas are altruistic actors here.

Plus, even a ceasefire is a condition after all.

 

[Jazny]

Imagine in the future of warfare where all you have to do to get all the demands met from a war you started is just go and take a bunch of the enemy's civilians hostages and place unreasonable demands on their release.

 

[faible]

Imagine in the future of warfare where all you have to do to get all the demands met from a war you started is just go and take a bunch of the enemy's civilians hostages and place unreasonable demands on their release.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Imagine in the future of warfare where all you have to do to get all the demands met from a war you started is just go and take a bunch of the enemy's civilians hostages and place unreasonable demands on their release.

As opposed to the present warfare, where you can bomb hospitals, schools and refugee camps under the guise of self defence?

 

[Kurve]

Imagine in the future of warfare where all you have to do to get all the demands met from a war you started is just go and take a bunch of the enemy's civilians hostages and place unreasonable demands on their release.

Israel's done it before.

Sinwar was released in 2011 as part of a deal that saw 1,027 Palestinian and Israeli Arab prisoners released from jail in exchange for a single Israeli hostage, the IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

via BBC

 

[faible]

Israel's done it before.

Sinwar was released in 2011 as part of a deal that saw 1,027 Palestinian and Israeli Arab prisoners released from jail in exchange for a single Israeli hostage, the IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

via BBC

That's a lot of Palestinians being held in captivity.

 

[Jazny]

Israel's done it before.

Sinwar was released in 2011 as part of a deal that saw 1,027 Palestinian and Israeli Arab prisoners released from jail in exchange for a single Israeli hostage, the IDF soldier Gilad Shalit.

via BBC

Israel has exchanged hostages for prisoners in this war, but that deal was obviously not unreasonable and didn't involve Israel essentially losing the war and allowing Hamas to regroup in exchange for hostages.

 

[faible]

Israel has exchanged hostages for prisoners in this war, but that deal was obviously not unreasonable and didn't involve Israel essentially losing the war and allowing Hamas to regroup in exchange for hostages.

To clarify, are you suggesting that if Israel were to make an agreement now they would 'essentially lose the war'? Or is this some kind of backdated hypothetical.

 

[Jazny]

To clarify, are you suggesting that if Israel were to make an agreement now they would 'essentially lose the war'? Or is this some kind of backdated hypothetical.

Hamas has demanded a full withdrawal of the IDF from Gaza previously in this war in exchange for hostages which is unreasonable. They have apparently removed that demand recently which is why a hostage deal is starting to look likely now.