Current WAR CRIMES Israel - * ICC issues warrants for Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & Yoav Gallant & for Hamas's Mohammed Deif

[Kurve]

The ICC has also issued a warrant for Hamas leader Mohammed Deif, who Israel says they have killed.

According to the ICC, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that Deif was “responsible for the crimes against humanity of murder; extermination; torture; and rape and other form of sexual violence; as well as the war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, torture; taking hostages; outrages upon personal dignity; and rape and other form of sexual violence”.

It also said there were reasonable grounds to believe the crimes against humanity were “part of a widespread and systematic attack directed by Hamas and other armed groups against the civilian population of Israel”.

For Netanyahu and Gallant, who was replaced as defence minister earlier this month, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that they “each bear criminal responsibility for the following crimes as co-perpetrators for committing the acts jointly with others: the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts”.

It also found reasonable grounds to believe that “each bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population”.




INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT

INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT - Elements of Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes

 

[Deliverance]

Israel attacks push Gaza healthcare ‘to brink of collapse’

Israel’s pattern of deadly attacks on and near hospitals in Gaza, and associated combat, have pushed the healthcare system to the brink of total collapse, with catastrophic effect on Palestinians’ access to health and medical care, the UN Human Rights Office (OHCHR) said on Tuesday.

news.un.org

https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/opt/20241231-attacks-hospitals-gaza-en.pdf

I wonder if Israel will ever let the international community back in there to see the full extent. Although if they do, the western politicians will probably support the further land theft/destruction again anyway. Media will be complicit in favourable reporting to the masses.

 

[ZEV]

6 atomic bombs worth in 15 months

So many Hamas command centres

The bombing of Hiroshima caused 140,000 deaths.

6 x 140,000 = 840,000.

Your false equivalency is 800,000 odd deaths short of being a valid comparison.

 

[faible]

The bombing of Hiroshima caused 140,000 deaths.

6 x 140,000 = 840,000.

Your false equivalency is 800,000 odd deaths short of being a valid comparison.

Speaking of false equivalency. Let’s not pretend you don’t know exactly what they mean. You know, we all know you know.

 

[Kurve]

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Yeah, they really made Israel go easy on Rafah.

 

[ZEV]

Yeah, they really made Israel go easy on Rafah.

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Rafah is where hostages were executed.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Rafah is where hostages were executed.

I don't understand your point. Explain?

 

[Jazny]

What do war zones normally look like where there is intense fighting? As someone pointed out, just in the firefight against Sinwar, 3 buildings were damaged badly, one basically destroyed. That's just to kill a few guys and none of that destruction would have been close to a breach of international law. That's not saying that Israel's bombing is always proportionate, but that war brings death and destruction.

That's just one more reason why Hamas should never have brought a war upon the people of Gaza, let alone use them and civilian infrastructure as human shields.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

What do war zones normally look like where there is intense fighting? As someone pointed out, just in the firefight against Sinwar, 3 buildings were damaged badly, one basically destroyed. That's just to kill a few guys and none of that destruction would have been close to a breach of international law. That's not saying that Israel's bombing is always proportionate, but that war brings death and destruction.

That's just one more reason why Hamas should never have brought a war upon the people of Gaza, let alone use them and civilian infrastructure as human shields.

What do genocides usually look like when armed forces bomb a captive population for over a year?

 

[Jazny]

What do genocides usually look like when armed forces bomb a captive population?

I have not heard any credible reports of Israel having a policy of targeting civilians. I imaging if they were bombing the civilian populated for 15 months, it would probably look like at least half of Gaza dead if not more.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

I have not heard any credible reports of Israel having a policy of targeting civilians. I imaging if they were bombing the civilian populated for 15 months, it would probably look like at least half of Gaza dead if not more.

 

[faible]

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The ICC has sufficient credible reports to issue arrest warrants.

Jazny hasn’t heard any credible reports.

Who to believe.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

The ICC has sufficient credible reports to issue arrest warrants.

Jazny hasn’t heard any credible reports.

Who to believe.

ICC is a Hamas Command Center, probably.

 

[Jazny]

The ICC has sufficient credible reports to issue arrest warrants.

Jazny hasn’t heard any credible reports.

Who to believe.

You should be able to tell me what happened then, if you have heard the reports the ICC based their reasonable grounds finding on. Were the two incidents part of a broader policy? What incidents were they? What's the policy?

 

[Deliverance]

Asswipe

Biden plans to send $8bn arms shipment to Israel

The weapons consignment, which needs approval from House and Senate committees, includes air-to-air missiles.

www.bbc.com

 

[faible]

You should be able to tell me what happened then, if you have heard the reports the ICC based their reasonable grounds finding on. Were the two incidents part of a broader policy? What incidents were they? What's the policy?

Seems a weird demand to make.

Do you not believe the ICC is basing their warrants on credible information?

Does Jazny know better than the legal minds at the ICC?

 

[Jazny]

Seems a weird demand to make.

Do you not believe the ICC is basing their warrants on credible information?

Does Jazny know better than the legal minds at the ICC?

I said "I have not heard any credible reports of Israel having a policy of targeting civilians". Seems you haven't either. The ICC is basing their charge on two incidents that they havent given any information on. I don't know who ordered those attacks, but the ICC don't seem to be claiming it was part of a broader Israeli policy of directing attacks against civilians. It seems from the wording of the document that Bibi and Gallant have command responsibility for those two alleged attacks as they failed to prevent them or refer them to the relevant authorities despite they could be reasonably expected to know about them. Here's the wording:

"Reasonable grounds to believe exist that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant, despite having measures available to them to prevent or repress the commission of crimes or ensure the submittal of the matter to the competent authorities, failed to do so"
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[Deliverance]

Israeli lawmakers call on military to destroy food, water and power sources in Gaza

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www.haaretz.com

 

[Zidane98]

 

[faible]

I said "I have not heard any credible reports of Israel having a policy of targeting civilians". Seems you haven't either. The ICC is basing their charge on two incidents that they havent given any information on. I don't know who ordered those attacks, but the ICC don't seem to be claiming it was part of a broader Israeli policy of directing attacks against civilians. It seems from the wording of the document that Bibi and Gallant have command responsibility for those two alleged attacks as they failed to prevent them or refer them to the relevant authorities despite they could be reasonably expected to know about them. Here's the wording:

"Reasonable grounds to believe exist that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Gallant, despite having measures available to them to prevent or repress the commission of crimes or ensure the submittal of the matter to the competent authorities, failed to do so"
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the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare

If only the aid organisations had been warning for months that this was happening.

But no credible reports says Jazny.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Rafah is where hostages were executed.

Come on ZEV have the balls to come out and say it.

 

[Jazny]

But no credible reports says Jazny.

Quick, change the topic when you're wrong.

 

[DapperDon]

Are these the patients the Doc who is now held hostage was looking after?

 

[DapperDon]

Quick, change the topic when you're wrong.

Nice of you to come up for air, must be hard breathing beneath the sand

 

[Jazny]

Nice of you to come up for air, must be hard breathing beneath the sand

This is what you say when you have no information that contradicts what I have said, which is why you say so often Otherwise you would just produce all the info.