Current WAR CRIMES Israel - * ICC issues warrants for Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & Yoav Gallant & for Hamas's Mohammed Deif

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The ICC has also issued a warrant for Hamas leader Mohammed Deif, who Israel says they have killed.

According to the ICC, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that Deif was “responsible for the crimes against humanity of murder; extermination; torture; and rape and other form of sexual violence; as well as the war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, torture; taking hostages; outrages upon personal dignity; and rape and other form of sexual violence”.

It also said there were reasonable grounds to believe the crimes against humanity were “part of a widespread and systematic attack directed by Hamas and other armed groups against the civilian population of Israel”.

For Netanyahu and Gallant, who was replaced as defence minister earlier this month, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that they “each bear criminal responsibility for the following crimes as co-perpetrators for committing the acts jointly with others: the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts”.

It also found reasonable grounds to believe that “each bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population”.




INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT

INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT - Elements of Crimes Against Humanity and War Crimes
 
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Did this also come from the guy who did that 'report' 'debunking' the Gaza casualty figures, Andrew Fox?

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Unhinged. I would point you to how I presented Andrew's work as a good way to present contentious reports that you aren't able to fact check. :thumbsu:

Also, if saying unhinged stuff on social media casts doubt on your work, how do you feel about Norm Finklestein? :eekv1:
 
Speaking of Norm Finklestein...

Poor Norm. I guess he hasn't been doing much celebrating over the past year :embarrassedv1:
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But at least October 7th warmed every fibre of his being, maybe the slaughter of Israelis by Hamas terrorists can keep his the old boring loser going:

"...if we honor the Jews who revolted in the Warsaw Ghetto—then moral consistency commands that we honor the heroic resistance in Gaza. I, for one, will never begrudge—on the contrary, it warms every fiber of my soul—the scenes of Gaza’s smiling children as their arrogant Jewish supremacist oppressors have, finally, been humbled.” - Norm Finklesetien

But then again, he is probably bed ridden by the loss after loss of the paper tiger terrorist organisation, just like that time in his early 20s when he was a full blown Maoist and couldn't get out of bed when the Gang of Four got overthrown because he realised, in a brief moment of clarity for him, that he is a useful idiot.
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This realisation didn't last too long. In his 70s he is stilling a fan of dictatorial violence by justifying the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Remember, guys, this is one of the predominant 'scholars' anti-Israelis quote.How embarrassing.
 
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Fatah seems a bit disjointed on their messaging.

What's disjointed? They hate Israel, but also aren't fans of Hamas. Unlike Hamas, they don't seek the destruction of Israel and certainly don't want Hamas to be provoking avwar in the West Bank.
 
One message is blaming Hamas, the other is blaming Israel.
You didn't read the message I guess. The message was also highly critical of Israel. There's nothing disjointed about it.

Only a fool would think Hamas are not at all responsible for for the conditions in Gaza. Doesn't mean Israel are not responsible either. It's not hard to realize if you commit a mass atrocity against a country that will almost certainly provoke a war which will lead to large scale destruction and suffering. Fatah are very critical of Israel's conduct in the war to say the least, but also critical of Hamas for provoking it, stealing aid, and taking refuge among Palestinian men woman and children. They are critical of Iran for sacrificing Palestinian children for their expansionist aims in Palestine.

They don't want Hamas and Iran turning the West Bank in to Gaza. Who can blame then? It's only Hamas, Iran and useful idiots in western countries that think 'resistance' through sacrificing Palestinian and Israeli civilians through an unwinnable terrorist war against Israel is a good idea.

No contradiction, not disjointed.
 
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Once again the usual suspects are quite happy to ignore this.

Source?

How should a state respond to a coalition of 4 proxies threatening to destroy them in your opinion?

This is, once again, a very selective and overly simplistic interpretation of complex events.

Didn't realise it was ok for Hamad to murder a few hundred Gazans in a war crime because Israel also attacked hospitals.

Interesting logic by you.

Source?

Think a put up or shut up policy should apply.

Otherwise it adds nothing to the discussion.

Just asking you to adhere to the standards you requested.
 
It was an embarrassing moment for the anti-Israelis in this thread who were shocked to learn that Hamas is a racist terrorist organization that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel. How or why they pushed back against this is unknowable, too much Norm Finklestein perhaps. It's a well known fact supported by their own words and actions. Hamas and their policies have only brought destruction on Gaza.
 

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. Hamas and their policies have only brought destruction on Gaza.
Except Gaza was already on that path decades before Hamas existed, due to IDF presence and expanding illegal settlements. Just like the West Bank now. There is no scneario where Israel let's Palestinians live in peace. That's why groups like Hamas spring up.


You didn't read the message I guess. The message was also highly critical of Israel. There's nothing disjointed about it.

Only a fool would think Hamas are not at all responsible for for the conditions in Gaza. Doesn't mean Israel are not responsible either. It's not hard to realize if you commit a mass atrocity against a country that will almost certainly provoke a war which will lead to large scale destruction and suffering. Fatah are very critical of Israel's conduct in the war to say the least, but also critical of Hamas for provoking it, stealing aid, and taking refuge among Palestinian men woman and children. They are critical of Iran for sacrificing Palestinian children for their expansionist aims in Palestine.

They don't want Hamas and Iran turning the West Bank in to Gaza. Who can blame then? It's only Hamas, Iran and useful idiots in western countries that think 'resistance' through sacrificing Palestinian and Israeli civilians through an unwinnable terrorist war against Israel is a good idea.

No contradiction, not disjointed.
You either didn't read or didn't understand this part, in which Fatah puts the blame on Israel and says the Hamas leadership was fine.

"Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar is a “pragmatic, patriotic, and realistic man” and that Israel is attempting to demonize him.

Rajoub also accused Israel of “demonizing” Iran and preventing it from being admitted into international society. He stated that Israel’s “unilateral attacks” on “Palestine”, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and the whole world are threatening the stability of the region and world peace."
 
No one:
Absolutely no one:

Jazny: ANTI-ISRAEL SUPPORTERS
Most of us: I wish Israel would stop it's relentless bombing of the Gaza strip

3 stooges of the thread: WHY DO YOU HATE JEWZ AND SUPPORT TERRORISTS??
 
The public 'Jazny hurt my feelings support group' in place of any argument is a little awkward. Maybe take it to private messages?

Never pretended anything other than I hate terrorist organizations and think their apologists are at best badly mislead or worse.
 
Except Gaza was already on that path decades before Hamas existed, due to IDF presence and expanding illegal settlements. Just like the West Bank now. There is no scneario where Israel let's Palestinians live in peace. That's why groups like Hamas spring up.



You either didn't read or didn't understand this part, in which Fatah puts the blame on Israel and says the Hamas leadership was fine.

"Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar is a “pragmatic, patriotic, and realistic man” and that Israel is attempting to demonize him.

Rajoub also accused Israel of “demonizing” Iran and preventing it from being admitted into international society. He stated that Israel’s “unilateral attacks” on “Palestine”, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Iran, and the whole world are threatening the stability of the region and world peace."
Was your argument: Fatah's messaging is disjointed because they somewhat praised Hamas's new leader at the time as being someone his party can work with and criticized Israel's demonization of Iran? Or was it: "One message is blaming Hamas, the other is blaming Israel"?

His comments about Iran seemed more about criticising Israel than saying Iran is a positive influence in the West Bank. If he said something like "October 7th was a great idea and we want Iran's help against Israel in the West Bank", I would agree that's disjointed.
 
Gonna have to back that up my friend since you demanded the below:

I will do so, unlike certain other posters.


Hamas/PIJ are guilty of murdering a few hundred Gazans at Ah-Ahli hospital while attempting to murder civilians in Israel.


Your responses include an attempt to blame Israel even though it is obvious that Israel is not responsible. Despite all the evidence to the contrary you focused on the below source

Also this one


Of course you know that this source is heavily anti-Israel. Doesn't take much effort to find this



Some pearlers include an accusation that red roof tiles on Jewish homes are deliberate so their homes do not get bombed. This claim was retracted after legal threats against your "source"

Other highlights of FA include
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Also

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Instead of blaming Hamas for the murder of Gazan civilians you ignore virtually all reliable sources on the massacre and choose to cite a source that is clearly anti-Israel.


And lastly instead of blaming Hamas you go for the whataboutisms:
Now do all the other hospitals.
 

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