Warlord V JHF

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  • Wardlaw

    Votes: 57 42.2%

  • JHF

    Votes: 78 57.8%
  • Total voters
    135

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Given North effectively got Wardlaw with Goad as a bonus for JHF i thought it would be interesting to hear people's thoughts and preferences.
 
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Wardlaw seems like he’ll have a higher floor, lower ceiling

JHF lower floor, higher ceiling

Personally I’d take Wardlaw
 
SnusCG said:
Wardlaw seems like he’ll have a higher floor, lower ceiling

JHF lower floor, higher ceiling

Personally I’d take Wardlaw
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Fair call, hadn't thought of it that way. Wanted to post on the mainboard to get more unbiased view so not surprised to see it close atm, so thanks for the feedback.
Both young gun mids but stating they're very different types is an understatement so i hope makes for an interested poll and POVs.
 
For West Coast as we have Reid and Hewett who are a lot more similar to JHF and we dont have a Wardlaw type of player, id take Wardlaw.
 
You are deadset blind if you think there is even a comparison to be made here.

Wardlaw is a meat and potatoes Matt Rowell type, and Horne-Francis is a Petracca superstar type.

Wardlaw is a lesser athlete, doesn't have anywhere near the polish of Horne (he is an elite kick already), and doesn't have a capacity to play forward like Horne does.
 
Bucking Bronco said:
You are deadset blind if you think there is even a comparison to be made here.

Wardlaw is a meat and potatoes Matt Rowell type, and Horne-Francis is a Petracca superstar type.

Wardlaw is a lesser athlete, doesn't have anywhere near the polish of Horne (he is an elite kick already), and doesn't have a capacity to play forward like Horne does.
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Wardlaw a lesser athlete??? That just proves you have NFI
 
Bucking Bronco said:
You are deadset blind if you think there is even a comparison to be made here.

Wardlaw is a meat and potatoes Matt Rowell type, and Horne-Francis is a Petracca superstar type.

Wardlaw is a lesser athlete, doesn't have anywhere near the polish of Horne (he is an elite kick already), and doesn't have a capacity to play forward like Horne does.
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I'd be careful throwing around the blind comments after that post.

In no possible metric is JHF a better athlete than Wardlaw, infact GW is one of the best power athletes to come through the system since NN or Dangerfield.

This is his CTL preseason testing data of his draft year:

Vertical: 101cm
20m: 2.91
Agility: 8.33
Yo-yo: 600


That's the same vertical as Nic Naitanui, the same 20m as Dangerfield and he would have placed 6th in his combine for the agility test.

The CTL average for the Yo-Yo is 550-600.

When you factor in his core strength around the contest, he may be the best athlete in the AFL, putting endurance testing to the side.

He broke all of Majak Daw's club record PB power tests on his first day at the club. Notice they weren't JHF power testing records?

If they had that sport vs sport athlete challenge from a decade or so ago, GW would be the AFL's #1 pick you'd put up against someone like Billy Slater (and he's still only 19 years old) Slater was a cyborg athlete in most categories.
 
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I was actually thinking it was The Warlord vs jhf. LoL

I like both. Jason Horne Francis is someone I like. Can play inside and outside mid. Can play forward flank and back flank.

Can kick with either foot.

Dockers have a Player similar to JHF. His name is Hayden young
 
Sphynx said:
I'd be careful throwing around the blind comments after that post.

In no possible metric is JHF a better athlete than Wardlaw, infact GW is one of the best power athletes to come through the system since NN or Dangerfield.

This is his CTL preseason testing data of his draft year:

Vertical: 101cm
20m: 2.91
Agility: 8.33
Yo-yo: 600


That's the same vertical as Nic Naitanui, the same 20m as Dangerfield and he would have placed 6th in his combine for the agility test.

The CTL average for the Yo-Yo is 550-600.

When you factor in his core strength around the contest, he may be the best athlete in the AFL, putting endurance testing to the side.

He broke all of Majak Daw's club record PB power tests on his first day at the club. Notice they weren't JHF power testing records?

If they had that sport vs sport athlete challenge from a decade or so ago, GW would be the AFL's #1 pick you'd put up against someone like Billy Slater (and he's still only 19 years old) Slater was a cyborg athlete in most categories.
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Fair enough, I didn't realise he had posted those numbers.

In saying that, I don't think draft combine numbers are absolutes re the standing of players as athletes.

Both De Goey and Petracca ran plus 3 second 20 metre sprint times (meaning they were only around the 50th percentile or so of players tested for speed), and yet are 2 of the most explosive midfielders of the last 10 years.

I have not seen Wardlaw utilise those kind of athletic gifts at all personally.

Horne often instinctively cuts an angle laterally to burn off opponents.
 
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I understand why the poll exists but these two players could easily play in the same team and would compliment one another. It’s not an either or situation imo but if I had to choose I’d pick JHF.
 
JHF, despite being a bit of a flog, is just the more dynamic player at this stage.

Bit unfair to compare them after 54 vs 21 games though – the more seasoned player will nearly always come out on top.

Check back in in a year or two.
 
jakson68 said:
If Wardlaw can kick on both sides, then I would take him.

JHF is a bull but teams will learn to push him onto his left and he has nothing there.
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Wardlaw is just as much of a bull but his general foot skills aren’t as good as JHF
 
Bald said:
I understand why the poll exists but these two players could easily play in the same team and would compliment one another. It’s not an either or situation imo but if I had to choose I’d pick JHF.
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If we'd somehow kept JHF I don't think we could've looked past Sheezel with pick 1, so no, I don't think it would've happened. Wardlaw would be playing for West Coast or Essendon.
 
Liam Boy said:
If we'd somehow kept JHF I don't think we could've looked past Sheezel with pick 1, so no, I don't think it would've happened. Wardlaw would be playing for West Coast or Essendon.
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Can understood how I've been misunderstood as I didn't write it correctly. I meant more it's like comparing JHF to Nick Daicos. I think it's silly because they're obviously different players and would compliment one another as opposed to being fairly comparable.
 
Bald said:
Can understood how I've been misunderstood as I didn't write it correctly. I meant more it's like comparing JHF to Nick Daicos. I think it's silly because they're obviously different players and would compliment one another as opposed to being fairly comparable.
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I think it's worth comparing because one player was essentially traded for the other. Like Chris Judd and Josh Kennedy aren't similar players but they warrant comparison just to evaluate whether it was a good trade. And I'm sure the comparisons will continue for their whole careers.
 
Bucking Bronco said:
Fair enough, I didn't realise he had posted those numbers.

In saying that, I don't think draft combine numbers are absolutes re the standing of players as athletes.

Both De Goey and Petracca ran sub 3 second 20 metre sprint times (meaning they were only around the 50th percentile or so of players tested for speed), and yet are 2 of the most explosive midfielders of the last 10 years.

I have not seen Wardlaw utilise those kind of athletic gifts at all personally.

Horne often instinctively cuts an angle laterally to burn off opponents.
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3 seconds flat is far from the 50th percentile.

Phoenix Gothard ran a 3 second flat at the last combine and was in the 84% percentile.
 

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