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You really don't do context do you.
Why do scientists call finding a new species of something a discovery if it's just been there for thousands of years anyway?
Oh no, are we all going to be OK?
The Liberal Party had a chance to be elected to parliament.
Guess what, Australia did not allow it.
We don't always get what we want, even if it seems like the right thing.
So we either sook it up and play the victim, or move on to find solutions and growth.
Not personally.
My ancestors like yours copped far worse treatment than that though.
History is littered with acts of violence and horrific stories.
That human hard wiring set humanity down a violent path over thousands upon thousands of years.
It is sport. Of course it can do without all the pre game BS. All supporters are interested in is the first bounce, first ball etc.
I said get rid of it all. The Anzac round is only a thing since Sheedy, clubs and the AFL started cashing in on it.
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Absolutely.
But the change on how we learn about these figures and look back on the shared history has and is continuing to get a lot better and it will no doubt continue
Learning about and embracing our indigenous history is now implemented at a pre school level and a broad and critical look at our colonial past is part of the primary and secondary school curriculums
Not to say we don’t have people acting in bad faith and that goes for both sides of the fence, unfortunately that is something that will probably always happen
But no doubt things are getting better and people are willing to have these tough conversations
It’s probably something we should never give up on improving either
Which bit did you consider to be political?
Actually yes!!!
Not all BS happened centuries ago.
Cruelty, is cruelty, some just go unnoticed, as it was a different time in the 70s.
Yes it was not the same and I would never pretend that it was but growing up in boys' homes, was no picnic, I assure you.
The one thing I learned though was that pain is inevitable, but suffering is optional.
It's just very slow
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It is, but it’s probably more generational than anything
As crass as it sounds as the old fogies die who’s minds have been made up by an education system that didn’t recognise both sides of the story they will be replaced by new old fogies like us who have
It’s not in relation to indigenous issues either could say the same about attitudes towards woman and climate issues
Education is key
In the 1980s at primary school we were taught the Aboriginals of Tasmania were all but wiped out.
You can view that from the lens of most people thought that for a long time.
Is that not recognition of the other side of the story?
It's only more recently that people have come out saying no this didn't happen. There are still Tasmanian Aboriginals.
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Yes well I copped that personally. Still wear the scars.
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I am the one with the problem? That’s victim blaming or a good way to divert the point. Standard.
Why should the AFL step in? Because an individual performing WTC said it’s not for white people? Let’s face it, this is what it’s about. It’s about the uproar caused by a raft of offended middle aged ignorant white people pushing for any angle to get this vetoed or sanitised in a way they don’t feel offended.
it’s stunning how upset people are when minorities start pushing back yet this is the same crowd that underpins every argument on free speech. I mean you and many others think you’re pseudo intellects trying to bend and twist around captain cook being an expert navigator, pioneer and lodestar of progress when we boil it down he invaded this country and caused mass disruption to the indigenous.
Should we tolerate a bit of push back from Aboriginal people when they make a joke like BC or WTC isn’t for white people? Well given there’s **** all in it I think it’s best you grow and set and stop being an offended snowflake.
Yes, you do have an agenda.
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It was a discovery for his people. For the European world.
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To be clear Brendan Kerin didn’t say “the welcome to country is not for white people” as some media has reported.
He said “indigenous people did not make up the WTC for white people”.
He was debunking a commonly expressed conservative lie that Ernie Dingo made up the WTC ceremony in the 1970s. Ernie himself said that he performed the first WTC ato a group of white people in the 70s but it had been a long standing traditional amongst indigenous groups for thousands of years before then.
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There is no evidence that any of the crew of the Endeavour - including Cook - killed anyone when they mapped the east coast of Australia in 1770.
There is no evidence that Cook did this.
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The difference with the Maori and Aboriginals is the Māori are one race with one language. The Australian Aboriginals had upwards of 300 different nations/languages. They were never one people.
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As soon as someone says I pay my taxes so I’m entitled to this opinion…
You know it’s not going to be good.
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Ok so the “voice of the nation” has spoken:
She vowed to “turn my back” on the practice when it’s conducted in parliament and at public events.
“I strongly encourage other Australians to do the same. Stop being walked over, and stand up for your home.”
So if the people of the nation hate the Welcome to Country ceremonies and are sick of the “wokeness” being shoved down your throats then you now have a way to fight back.
Simply turn your back to the ceremony when it is performed at any public event.
It will really show how many people out there genuinely hate the WTC vs those keyboard warriors with an amplified voice.
So tough guys let’s see you do it. There’ll be 3 more AFL finals with a WTC being performed over the next two weeks, plus other sporting games and cultural events. If you genuinely have “had a gutful” of the WTC then turn your back.
She vowed to “turn my back” on the practice when it’s conducted in parliament and at public events.
“I strongly encourage other Australians to do the same. Stop being walked over, and stand up for your home.”
So if the people of the nation hate the Welcome to Country ceremonies and are sick of the “wokeness” being shoved down your throats then you now have a way to fight back.
Simply turn your back to the ceremony when it is performed at any public event.
It will really show how many people out there genuinely hate the WTC vs those keyboard warriors with an amplified voice.
So tough guys let’s see you do it. There’ll be 3 more AFL finals with a WTC being performed over the next two weeks, plus other sporting games and cultural events. If you genuinely have “had a gutful” of the WTC then turn your back.
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I always like these conversations. People get caught up in these arguments about things which happened generations ago and for which there is never going to be any answer or resolution. It feels like a grade 6 social studies class right now. It’s a convenient way to never address the real social issues facing current indigenous Australians which can actually be answered and resolved.
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