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Watching the eagles press conference yesterday, i think mini said umm more than Yze. But you know, we stuffed up there 
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Livingstone was part of that incompetent football department prior to 2017 your kidding. Didn't say he organised it as a business sense Balme , it was football related and yes he got everyone on the same page and the correct roles. Without his input we we're a mess and divided. Ran the club in the hub lool let's not go there we got 2 warnings from the afl for behaviour and next was a deduction of points and the Dimma issue to far from great yes we won the flag , but we come out of there terrible and the club has never been the same like it or not. Funny how you don't give him any accountability on the mess of fitness and conditioning last 2 seasons, or recruitment etc and poor appointments.
Go back and read again
“…responsible for conditioning…”
Recruitment >Blair Hartley
Coaching appointments>senior coach (but part of the decision)
And if you think the FD doesn’t need a professional structure then I’ll point you towards Windy Hill as exhibit A.
Did you concede on Dan Richardson? Or that’s too uncomfortable?
P.s. Do you really believe the Richmond issues in the hub were unique? Wake up.
There wouldn’t be too many clubs that wouldn’t give a premiership coach a fat contract fresh off his third flag
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Agreed but given the state of the soft cap they didn’t reward the assistants as well , and we’ve seen what happened
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Agree, but he crapped off some players, friends , other staff members and their WAGS who were very close with Danielle. It was the beginning of the end.
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Not a narrative mate.
The casual lunch that brought a club favourite’s time at Tigerland to an end
Neil Balme, a key part of Richmond’s return to AFL prominence, talks about the “briefly awkward” discussion that made it clear this would be his last year at the club.www.theage.com.au
That's your narrative. He wanted to go on and clearly stated it even in a part time role. Gale shouldn't even been making that decision as he was checked out and no right to make future plans. The club made the call on Balmey not himself and that crap it was based on his health I never bought it.
I didn't mention Richardson and no need to the focus is on Livingstone problem is you can't acknowledge his mistakes.
No you mentioned he handled the hub well it was far from it regardless what other clubs did we come out of that a mess
the football department needs a cool head and professional structure and they should be held accountable for poor decisions
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Might be underselling Jake a bit, was a playing assistant at Frankston, then involved in development at the Saints and then coached Sandringham in his own right for 4 seasons. He might be 'cheap' as far as cost goes, but he has a fair bit of experience behind him, while working under Richardson Ratten & Lyon. He could be a very astute pick up.
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So Livingstone is responsible for the demise of our club cause he turned a blind eye while Dimma ran amoke in the hub. Thanks for confirming
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One club’s supporters refer to him as Erik Seven Hag.
I don’t know the bloke personally but I’m pretty good at reading the room, I think he was his own worst enemy , his inner demons impacting his own family dynamic more than his Richmond family and that’s what fueled his motivation to get out of town. It’s a moot point really so don’t care to waste any time on it . But those demons undoubtedly clouded his decision making and that was telling on his performance in 2023 and likely 2022 as well and it all just blew up in the end
Morro was widely lampooned on here and is now one of the hottest emerging talents going around and am rapt to see him step up for 25 , look forward to seeing what Jake can do to
I think that’s a stretch , twas a unique period to have 50 blokes in one place and to thrive to the point that we won the flag was a monumental achievement , incidents were way overblown, absolute tall poppy syndrome , most clubs handled the hub terribly, we certainly werent one of thoseI didn't mention Richardson and no need to the focus is on Livingstone problem is you can't acknowledge his mistakes.
No you mentioned he handled the hub well it was far from it regardless what other clubs did we come out of that a mess
Yze was on a hiding to nothing this year even without the abhorrent injury list.
The shadow of the Dimma era with a lot of players from that era that only knew one way was always going to be a tough slog.
I do know there was a meeting with Adem and a few key players mid year where he was told he was too soft on them (been reported openly). From then he drew a line in the sand aimed at Players and staff to say that if they’re not on board they can go. If they have contracts a trade will be facilitated. Some have taken that offer.
Could be a watershed moment for AY and the path forward. I love the young guys jumping back on board straight away and the stance taken by some of the older players
Huge off season that could ourselves and Adem up for next 7-10 years
The shadow of the Dimma era with a lot of players from that era that only knew one way was always going to be a tough slog.
I do know there was a meeting with Adem and a few key players mid year where he was told he was too soft on them (been reported openly). From then he drew a line in the sand aimed at Players and staff to say that if they’re not on board they can go. If they have contracts a trade will be facilitated. Some have taken that offer.
Could be a watershed moment for AY and the path forward. I love the young guys jumping back on board straight away and the stance taken by some of the older players
Huge off season that could ourselves and Adem up for next 7-10 years
No probs.
It’s really the only conclusion a sane person could reach.
I’ve gotta get off this site.
Interesting listening to a pod and schoey talking just how important the asst team will be for mini as they execute the coaches game plan
Made me think how not clearing the coaching team out probably didnt help any for ooze
Made me think how not clearing the coaching team out probably didnt help any for ooze
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Adem was assistant at the Hawks during the 3-peat.
Joined the Dees in 2021, when they won the flag, their best performance in 57 years.
He has the score on the board in terms of experience of coaching success.
Four premierships as an assistant.
At one stage this year, we had 20 players on the injury list.
Joined the Dees in 2021, when they won the flag, their best performance in 57 years.
He has the score on the board in terms of experience of coaching success.
Four premierships as an assistant.
At one stage this year, we had 20 players on the injury list.
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On the back of his speech tonight at the JDM, i really hope he is put overseas to get some leadership skills. He has been lambasted as being too soft and close with the players and thr JDM was the perfect place to come out firing and make a statement.
Not stumble through his words and keep putting his hand in his pocket and then pulling it out to touch his phone/papers.
Not stumble through his words and keep putting his hand in his pocket and then pulling it out to touch his phone/papers.
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You don’t seem to grasp the difference between a debate over what should happen and what’s actually a viable option.
And you know the last team to somewhat ‘rebuild’ after making finals (they lost an EF by 10-goals, not 2-points)? Kangas end of 2016, when they retired off Boomer, DalSanto, Petrie and Firrito. How’d that strategy of prioritising youth and ‘rebuilding’ work out for them? Arguably the worst team in VFL/AFL history from 2020-2024… 4-years after the rebuild began.
And take me through the discussion Dimma has with the club and senior Premiership players, of which 16 … yes, 16 …played in the 2022 EF. 11 of them under 30yo.
“Even though we have Cotch and Edwards closer to the end than the beginning, we are not looking to bolster the midfield by trading for 24yo Tim Taranto, we are heading to the draft and stocking up on kids. I don’t care we haven’t lost a game by more than 6-points since Round 6 without Dusty for most of it … this Premiership era is over”.
As I said… there’s what some might think is right, and then there’s what’s actually possible.
As a matter of interest, point me to your messages in the trade period of 2022 showing your disappointment with the club in trading for Taranto?
If you were happy with Taranto, it means the only mis-step relating to decent draft picks was Hopper, which was in essence Hopper, Greene and Smith for 8 and 31.
So all would be rosy in pissing off an entire playing list by giving up on contending in 2023 for the sake of picks 8 and 31 (and no Hopper, Smith or Green on the list). Pick 8 would want to be a Scheezel/Reid combo clone.
Is that your contention?
Even knowing what I know now id still trade 12 and 19 for TT who has 5-7 quality years left.
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