Were we actually robbed?

[maskmcgee]

Bullshit rule that they would never apply in a big game with 80k+ in attendance.

 

[grimface_87]

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Doesn't really cover cramp - 'medical assessment' means the 'can't return for 20 minutes' level, and has to be advised:
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So what was stopping us from saying that Shiels was off for a medical assessment?

 

[see see]

Convert the easy shots and we wouldn’t be talking about it this morning

Or if the Swans didn't miss a bunch of sodas in the first half.

We f***ed up, pure and simple. Time to move on.

 

[Masked Avenger]

I reckon the full on footy nuffies will love investigating this one.

First step would be to go over the tape and count every interchange and check if the number is correct.

Find out if the interchange official is supposed to inform the team that they have reached the threshold.

Look into what qualifies technically by the rules as an interchange. It’s it simply a the swaps of players from the bench to the ground no matter what the reason, blood rule, injury.

Because of the way our season is going I can’t find myself caring too much either way.

It has to be investigated though, because I’d hate for an important game to be decided wrongly in the future.

All those questions are important but Greenwood got grabbed high right in front of the same umpire no less moments before.

If it was paid, as it should of been, the ball may have miles away before play was halted and the penalty awarded.

A free kick and 50 means sfa if its paid deep in the opposition's defensive 50 compared to if it's paid in the forward half of the ground.

Another AFL rule that hasn't been properly thought out.

 

[giantroo]

Not sure why some facebook links are blocked but either way, just remove the space after the :

MMM's commentary team react to the breach


https: //fb.watch/kFbq4zCo0O/?mibextid=Nif5oz

 

[conwaynmfc]

Poor/nil communication, they screwed up. Won't happen again I'm sure (not sure)

 

[Roosurgence]

Nobody is denying the interchange bungle more than the convenient application and placement of Sydney's free kick. Why not a free from the centre square?

The whole complexion of that game changes because they delay the decision, it’s actually a farce.

If it’s paid at the time it happens, even if Sydney kick the goal, we still have time to score.

We actually were trying to burn time off the clock that we would have never done if the free is paid at the correct time.

 

[The Anvil]

Benches in sports are busy, I suspect this sort of thing happens all the time but thanks to clear communication from the AFL official it gets sorted out.

Would have been simple for the AFL official to say "hey guys, you don't have any more changes so don't let anyone else come on", and I suspect this is what usually happens.

Which made my ears prick up when Ratts mentioned in the presser that we hadn't heard anything from the AFL stewart.

 

[Mcarcherey]

Kane and alike will be thrilled in the media, this week the game will only be covered to talk about the interchange. Nothing will be said about sheezel getting 25+ and 2 goals and having the ability to play elite footy in any position, nothing about wardlaw going toe to toe with Parker and beating Sydney's midfield without our best mid. Curtis's goal will be an afterthought.

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[Hojuman]

Benches in sports are busy, I suspect this sort of thing happens all the time but thanks to clear communication from the AFL official it gets sorted out.

Would have been simple for the AFL official to say "hey guys, you don't have any more changes so don't let anyone else come on", and I suspect this is what usually happens.

Which made my ears prick up when Ratts mentioned in the presser that we hadn't heard anything from the AFL stewart.

" 75 + 1 = 75 doesn't it " ?

 

[giantroo]

 

[Val Keating]

All those questions are important but Greenwood got grabbed high right in front of the same umpire no less moments before.

If it was paid, as it should of been, the ball may have miles away before play was halted and the penalty awarded.

A free kick and 50 means sfa if its paid deep in the opposition's defensive 50 compared to if it's paid in the forward half of the ground.

Another AFL rule that hasn't been properly thought out.

Also, Sheils should have won a free for his tackle on the goal line, but those are different things from the question asked in this thread.

 

[DaveyBoy123]

So, apparently Shiels or Phillips could have come back on! Eh, close enough. Don't worry about technicalities on that one!

The AFL are picking & choosing when they can make it up to save face! I think I'd somehow feel better if they admitted that they made a mistake and it had to be Phillips that came back on OR another free & 50 to the Swans. But we can't have that. "Close enough" is good enough when it suits them.

 

[Hojuman]

I am still of the opinion that if you go back and count every single one, we didn't go over.

19 men on the field ? Didn't affect the play at all. Nothing to see.

Interchange over 75 ? FREE KICK SYDNEY FROM THE GOALQUARE !

 

[The Anvil]

" 75 + 1 = 75 doesn't it " ?

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Don't think anyone is saying that the Roos aren't responsible for own compliance to rules.

I have no doubt though that this happens all the time but clear and timely communication from the AFL official would ensure something outside of the field of play doesn't affect the game.

There's very unlikely to be a person who's only job is to count on the bench as there would be a limit on how many people can be actually be on the bench. I don't know if you've had any time playing the game, I have though and I can tell you lots happens in real time and it would be the right thing to do for an official to give teams a heads up as a courtesy.

 

[giantroo]

 

[Mr_Nyah]

So if we had the free paid against us regardless, why should Powell come off? That way we’re penalised and got nothing out of it. Should have left Powell on if we had already given the free kick away anyway.

 

[Ashley B]

What I am thankful for is it wasn’t an important game like a final. When we do get into these types of games our players need to learn to finish teams off when you have the chance.Hopefully it happens sooner rather than later.

 

[LETSGOKANGAS]

No doubt the AFL will introduce something because of this. Another North initiative.

A red light or something by the bench that turns on and can be seen by all on the ground that no more changes can be made.

 

[Caracas]

Please 77 changes AFL covering their asses . But regardless of this when we were on top we need to keep going and it wouldn’t be an issue . Everyone knows the AFL have the Swans back . Must be great barracking for them knowing this . Wonder what it would be like only thing is we would have to go to the Gold Coast to find out.

We started to panic in the last 10 minutes. Unnecessarily, playing on after marking just outside fifty, instead of slowing the game down. Simple stuff like that. The only team that could have benefited from gunning and running at that stage of the game was Sydney. Coupled with a some really clutch plays by one or two Swans player, we were, probably, our own worst enemy. Also, pure and simple luck. Heeney’s shot skidding through just inside the post. It just wasn’t meant to be.


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[DuckYeah]

Yes
Bullshit rule that they would never apply in a big game with 80k+ in attendance.

A hefty fine would be sufficient.
Ruined a really good game.

I think a hefty fine is appropriate. IF that was a pre lim or a big final that would be ****ing ridiculous

I get the other side of the argument too, I guess. With just fines rich teams could abuse it. Fines only work against poor clubs like st kilda, dogs and us

 

[Ashley B]

We started to panic in the last 10 minutes. Unnecessarily, playing on after marking just outside fifty, instead of slowing the game down. Simple stuff like that. The only team that could have benefited from gunning and running at that stage of the game was Sydney. Coupled with a some really clutch plays by one or two Swans player, we were, probably, our own worst enemy. Also, pure and simple luck. Heeney’s shot skidding through just inside the post. It just wasn’t meant to be.


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Yes inexperience didn’t help. We were so close too. You could see when we were I think about 16 points up and went forward a couple more times to go further up the anxious anticipation from the players. They would have been thinking we get another we could win and then overdid things. When losing so often it takes time to break the cycle. Swans are a smart team too and just held their nerve. Was very happy that most of the players that took us forward yesterday were the younger ones . Finally we can see some signs. It does also seem that our back 6 seems to work with just the 2 talls as well. Having a CHF yesterday also very helpful.

 

[gokangas]

So we were warned? So who got the sack at North for this fugg up that probably cost us the game?

 

[Jimmy's Hot Dogs]

Someone at AFL house is either scouring the North interchange bench video to prove we made a mistake or deleting the file.

I think the robbery wasn’t a single incident but rather the series of events that took place over the whole game.

 

[Ashley B]

I find this hard to believe our interchange steward wouldn’t know . A better idea would be to get rid of the stupid capping of interchange numbers altogether, who cares. Rules committee justifying their existence. Then the clubs can concentrate on other matters.it’s time wasting rubbish.