West Gippy Latrobe (Part 2)

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The aforementioned Bairnsdale move to the West Gippy/Gippsland league was the feature story in todays Bairnsdale advertiser. Biggest club in the East Gippy league and have one 6 of last 9 flags but still seems to have come from nowhere a bit. The fact that they rolled 2nd place Wy Yung by 20 goals in the top 2 semi final last week may have caused the underlying belief that they are too good for the competition to fully come to the surface. It's a long article but sums up the situation pretty well, although some points are sort of non-issues. Thoughts from our valley neighbours??


Bairnsdale Football Club is in the early stages of a proposal that will see it abandon the East Gippsland Football Netball League to have a presence in the West Gippsland Latrobe Football League (major league).​

A meeting was held last Monday night of people who have expressed an interest in the concept, a chance to brainstorm ideas before putting a
proposal to the EGFNL, its clubs and the intended
league.

The club has its sights on the West Gippsland Latrobe FL (major league), while the​
Advertiser is also aware of moves to consider the North Gippsland Football Netball League. It is understood the concept stemmed from the playing group at Bairnsdale, which then passed it to the committee for further consideration. No formal approach to the VCFL has been made as yet, nor has there been any requests to talk to
other leagues. All discussions to this point have been “informal and factfinding”. However, there have been attempts to gauge the interest from the other leagues.

The
Advertiser can confirm conversations were held with Chris Somalis
(WGLFL general manager) and Gordon Bayley (NGLFL general manager) to ascertain if there was any interest in these leagues accepting Bairnsdale at some future date. Victorian Country Football League area manager, Ben O’Brien, told the
Advertiser the idea is known, but far from formally.
“I don’t know anything new other than it is very preliminary. Very, very,
very early,” he said. The WGLFL, soon to be the Gippsland Football League, is apparently open to a 10-team competition. It currently has nine, with Garfield likely to make way for Wonthaggi Power (formerly of the Alberton league – that in itself has provided well-documented headaches for the VCFL) for the 2010 season, but has an interest in having the ‘strong’ areas of Gippsland represented. The eastern clubs of Sale, Traralgon and Maffra would be accommodating of Bairnsdale entering their competition.

Representatives of the Bairnsdale Football Club were apprehensive in talking to the
Advertiser - under apparent advice from the VCFL – with fears of jeopardising its proposal based on politics between Wonthaggi’s recruitment into the league and Bairnsdale’s perhaps future presence. However, according to Mr O’Brien the VCFL has issued no such ‘suppression order’ on the club, with Wonthaggi’s move’s having no bearing on any upcoming decisions. “Two separate issues. Wonthaggi needs to find a place to play footy in 2010. (And) The likelihood of anything happening in 2010 (for Bairnsdale) is zero. But who knows what footy in this region will look like in five years,” he said. “The VCFL has had no
contact with the Bairnsdale Football Club and we’re not in the practice of telling people they can’t talk (to the media).” The East Gippsland
FNL would also not make comment at this early stage.

Bairnsdale’s on field success this year – and over a number of years –
is a basis behind the idea. The state of the EGFNL competition, like most
country leagues including West Gippsland Latrobe FL, is such that there are irregularities at both ends of the spectrum. The second semi final last weekend was an example with Bairnsdale heading straight to the grand final by defeating its nearest rival, Wy Yung, by 113 points.

The general consensus of the meeting of interested persons on Monday night was that there is a need to examine thoroughly the current state of football and netball in East Gippsland. A concern is that a number of the area’s ‘better’ footballers leave the area to play in the major league. There is a perception that moving to a major league is the preferred development pathway, as opposed to remaining in the local leagues.

The concept is aimed at players willing to train and play at a higher
level rather than a recruitment drive around the EGFNL. It has been suggested an initial squad of 30–35 players would be sought to commence pre-season training. Players not making the cut each week would return to their own clubs to play each Saturday. Players from the existing Bairnsdale senior list who do not make the cut would be balloted to the existing EGFNL clubs, perhaps on a draft system. If the proposal was to be accepted, Sunday games would be preferred to avoid clashes with the
EGFNL, or night games on a Saturday.

This is dependent on a number of factors, the first being that Bairnsdale
is accepted into the major league. It is intended that the club would field only seniors and under 18s. The WGLFL also plays under 16 and reserves, plus five grades of netball. There are a number of questions still looming over the idea, and a number of consultation meetings lie ahead.

A business plan needs to be considered and a study will be conducted to establish the impact it will have on the local team. Will it help or hinder the EGFNL to have the major side out of the local competition?
Fees alone are double that in the WGLFL to East Gippsland.

According to Mr O’Brien, the VCFL will take into consideration the affect it will have on the EGFNL, once a formal proposal has been lodged.
“Yes we do, it depends a lot on the mood of the old league, the club and the new league. The VCFL board has to approve the transfer, but a lot depends on those three parties. The impact on local footy would be a priority.”

There is expected to be a meeting on October 5 at the Bairnsdale Football Club social rooms from 6.30pm to outline more detailed plans to have a major league club based in Bairnsdale. “For the Bairnsdale footy club,
and I hope they’re aware of this, it’s not a matter of snapping your fingers and changing leagues, there’s a lot more to go under the bridge before that happens,” Mr O’Brien said.

A similar proposal, which would have seen a new club developed as an East Gippsland representative side and independent of the Bairnsdale FC, was put forward in 2004. It was unsuccessful on a number of fronts, largely financial, player availability and the role existing clubs would play in providing the players.​
 
very interesting. i doubt that they'd be allowed to enter the league without having a reserves side. i think the under 16 comp needs to be scrapped and played on sundays, especially now that wonthaggi look like re-joining and bairnsdale being a possibility as well. unrealistic to expect parents to travel up to 2 hours for a 9 a.m. start for a game of footy
 
Yeah too right, I didn't know the West Gippy league had under 16's, and didn't really get it when I find out. Surely 16's are juniors and the senior clubs should just have seniors, reserves and 1 unders side.
 

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Yeah too right, I didn't know the West Gippy league had under 16's, and didn't really get it when I find out. Surely 16's are juniors and the senior clubs should just have seniors, reserves and 1 unders side.
Totally agree for a number of reasons.No need for an U/16 comp.Undermines the local junior comp which has always done the job of producing quality juniors in the past.Causes a lot of players to drop off the game because if they happen to be late developers and not good enough to make the gfl u16's at the age of 14 or 15 ,a lot of them start to think that maybe footy isn't their game and play something else where they are not continually reminded of the fact that they are only good enough to play in the second tier competition and even if they have some success at the local district junior comp it means nothing among their peers.Their games start at 8.30-9am which during winter produces conditions hardly condusive for players to play their best anyway.The only advantage i see is for Gippy Power scouts because theoretically it gets all the "best" u/16's playing in the one comp which means they don't have to do as much work to spot the best kids at that age.Besides ,i can't think of any other major country league like ours that carries an U/16 comp that plays on the same day and same fixture as the seniors.
 
West Gippsland Latrobe Football League
2009 Senior Best & Fairest … Trood Award & Rodda Medal

15 CHRIS HANCOCK (MOE) * (Ineligible due to suspension)

14 ADRIAN COX (SALE) & MICHAEL GEARY (TRARALGON)

13 DANIEL STUBBE (MAFFRA), RYAN DAVEY (WARRAGUL)

12 TOM DOWD (LEONGATHA), TROY MAKEPEACE (MOE)

11 MALCOLM DOW (DROUIN), ADAM BAILEY (MORWELL), BOB McCALLUM (DROUIN)

10 A.Govers (L), H.Burgiel (Mf), T.McQualter (T), J.Aitken (T)

9 D.Barrand (D), P.McGrath (D)

8 A.Soumilas (D), B.Batalha (Mf)

7 C.Robbins (Mf), G.Jones (Mf), R.Hore (T), L.Cummins (T), D.Barr (W)

6 D.Holt (L), S.Robertson (Moe), D.Risol (Moe), M.Gray (W)

5 B.Reid (Garfield), J.Sutherland (L), B.Coleman (Mf), M.Lee (Mf), S.Hazelman (T)

4 B.Soumilas (D), B.Marsh (G), P.Fawcett (L), B.Rayson (L), B.Robbins (Mf), M.Forys (Moe), B.Knowles (Mw), J.Soutar (Mw), J.Macfarlane (Mw), C.Scholtes (S)

3 Sam Proctor (D), C.Proctor (D), B.Carmody (D), R.Salter (D), B.Eastwell (G), H.Browne (L), R.McLennan (L), B.Rathnow (Mf), O.Booth (Mf), L.Hale (Moe), C.Smogavec (Moe), A.Kennedy (Moe), L.Visser (Mw), S.Russell (Mw), T.Leeds (S), T.Hams (S), M.Smith (T), L.Sheehan (W), N.Lieshout (W), R.Glover (W)

2 M.Coghlan (L), A.Payne (Moe), R.Michaelides (Moe), A.Thorpe (Moe), L.Norder (Mw), M.Scholz (Mw), N.Scurrah (Mw), M.Johnston (Mw), D.Thorpe (S), T.Aitken (T), B.Hazelman (T), K.Grinstead-Jones (T), N.Quenault (T), N.Edney (W), C.Rowe (W), J.Morgan (W)

1 M.Ablett (D), S.Reid (G), B.Jostlear (G), J.Hughes (L), K.Porter (Mf), B.Durrant (Mf), J.Costigan (Mf), P.Ainsworth (Moe), R.Love (S), R.McAdam (S), T.Johnston (T), M.Burge (T), K.Harrold (T), D.Campbell (T), M.Cooper (T), T.Keily (W)
 
West Gippsland Latrobe Football League 2009 Team Of The Year

Backs: Adam Govers (Leongatha) - Ashley Payne (Moe) - Brendan Sheehan (Warragul)

Half Backs: Jamie Aitken (Traralgon) - Damien Carmody (Drouin) - Leigh Cummins (Traralgon)

Centres: Ryan Davey (Warragul) - Troy Makepeace (Moe) - Malcolm Dow (Drouin)

Half Forwards: Michael Geary (Traralgon) - Matt Forys (Moe) - Adrian Burgiel (Maffra)

Forwards: Daniel Stubbe (Maffra) - Dwayne Holt (Drouin) - Craig Robbins (Maffra)

On Ballers: Chris Hancock (Moe) - Adrian Cox (Sale) - Brett Knowles (Morwell)

Interchange: Brent Eastwell (Garfield) - Rohan Hore (Traralgon) - Hayden Burgiel (Maffra)

Coach: Steve Hazelman (Traralgon)
 
(from the press release I recieved)

EQUAL LOWEST WINNING TOTAL EVER

Indicative of the closeness of season 2009 in the West Gippsland Latrobe Football League, this year’s Senior vote count has been won by Sale’s Adrian Cox and Traralgon’s Michael Geary with a total of just 14 votes, equal to the lowest winning total on record which shows how widely spread the votes were this year.

A total of fourteen votes has won the Trood Award and Rodda Medal on two other occasions, the years being 1977 and 1993.

Current state politician Peter Hall won the award in 1977 in his second year as Captain/Coach of Traralgon and he won it in sensational circumstances. Hall was involved in a four way countback as he and three others had each polled 14 votes. Hall won from John Johnstone of Bairnsdale, Paul Clavarino of Sale and Yallourn/Yallourn North coach Ray Koeleman.

The other year when 14 votes was sufficient to win the award was in season 1993 when Maffra’s Anthony Gravener won from Traralgon’s triple award winner Greg Morley and Matt Irwin from Sale who both were awarded 12 votes.
 
whats lead to cox leaving? did he lose support of his players or something?nick anderson will struggle to coach at this level surely! Sale will be in free fall under him i reckon
 

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whats lead to cox leaving? did he lose support of his players or something?nick anderson will struggle to coach at this level surely! Sale will be in free fall under him i reckon


Not sure why he has left.

Why will Nick Anderson struggle??

Has had match day roles at Sale and Heyfield last two years for two premierships, so obviously knows the game, loves his footy, him and the president will put the right people in the right places to ensure success.

Having played with, played under and coached with Nick i am sure you probably couldn't get a more credentialed non playing coach within area. If he can get the depth back at sale he could weave some magic!!!

First you have said Dwayne Holt will be no good and that Darnum wouldnt make a grand final. Wrong on both levels!!!!! And my sir i think you are wrong about this!!!
 
OK Boys what's gonna happen tomorrow?

Maffra unaccustomed to go into a granny as underdogs. How will they handle this? Blasted Moe of the park in the last quarter last Saturday. A great side when their tails are up and seems like their confidence is peaking at the right time of the year.

Traralgon play their second game in four weeks. For a side that's won 13 in a row you probably just want momentum to keep rolling. Does this rest help or hinder them? Hazelman a great operator who would have done his homework and should have the side right to go, but, a quarter on your heels against the eagles and she could be all over.

If weather holds up should be a ripper. Traralgon a great even team that play a selfless, perpetual motion kind of game. Maffra, have some holes in some areas on the park but is made up by some good clearance players, dynamic forwards and some good running flankers.

For mine, I think the maroons should win, but think they will have to resort to a plan B at some stage to do it. if plan B isn't executed well enough, then the eagles will run over the top of them.
 
OK Boys what's gonna happen tomorrow?

Maffra unaccustomed to go into a granny as underdogs. How will they handle this? Blasted Moe of the park in the last quarter last Saturday. A great side when their tails are up and seems like their confidence is peaking at the right time of the year.

Traralgon play their second game in four weeks. For a side that's won 13 in a row you probably just want momentum to keep rolling. Does this rest help or hinder them? Hazelman a great operator who would have done his homework and should have the side right to go, but, a quarter on your heels against the eagles and she could be all over.

If weather holds up should be a ripper. Traralgon a great even team that play a selfless, perpetual motion kind of game. Maffra, have some holes in some areas on the park but is made up by some good clearance players, dynamic forwards and some good running flankers.

For mine, I think the maroons should win, but think they will have to resort to a plan B at some stage to do it. if plan B isn't executed well enough, then the eagles will run over the top of them.

Your right on your break downs except Maffrre ud being the underdogs in grandfinals. They beat Sale 2 years in a row as underdogs!!!
 
whats lead to cox leaving? did he lose support of his players or something?nick anderson will struggle to coach at this level surely! Sale will be in free fall under him i reckon

Not sure why or how you base this belief of Nick Anderson. He has coached senior premireships at a higher level than Sale, been a bench coach in Sale and Heyfields grand prmireships, was assistent coach at Williamston VFL working with the collingwood players and under Brad Gotch the very good vfl coach. He runs a ultra professional business and is one of the best public speakers in Gippsland and is a consultant to local shires and members of parliment. He is the right man to coach the club.
He will have a Pre who is also a very smooth operator and have support staff that are proven in there roles.
seems like the Sale Football Club are heading in the a new direction and will be making every effort reengage current and past players.
IT WAS THE BEST APPOINTMENT FOR THE CLUB!!
 
Not sure why or how you base this belief of Nick Anderson. He has coached senior premireships at a higher level than Sale, been a bench coach in Sale and Heyfields grand prmireships, was assistent coach at Williamston VFL working with the collingwood players and under Brad Gotch the very good vfl coach. He runs a ultra professional business and is one of the best public speakers in Gippsland and is a consultant to local shires and members of parliment. He is the right man to coach the club.
He will have a Pre who is also a very smooth operator and have support staff that are proven in there roles.
seems like the Sale Football Club are heading in the a new direction and will be making every effort reengage current and past players.
IT WAS THE BEST APPOINTMENT FOR THE CLUB!!

I heard Luke Henderson maybe the 2nds coach for next year? any truth to this rumour?
 
I heard Luke Henderson maybe the 2nds coach for next year? any truth to this rumour?

Not confirmed but is looking like it may happen. There are 2 options to disect.
If it does happy can't wait to bringing some fun back to the Magoos and making them are a force again. Last time there it worked well with over 40 at training most nights and many people fighting for senior selection. If they missed out they still played in a decent side that won more often than lost. Also played hard after the game as one!
 
Surely Butcher wouldnt play, going to be top 5 draft pick, got this far without a serious injury so why risk all that coin to play a WGLFL Grand Final? Come back when its all over re Cox, Anderson,Stevens and win a flag then.
 
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