Discussion What Footy Jumpers/Sports Uniforms Do You Own?

[NM_Mitchell]

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[Freight Train]

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[MKMatty]

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[NM_Mitchell]

I remember posting a little while back that my family found my Great Grandfathers old North Melbourne Under 18s (or reserves, I forget which one) playing jumper (circa 1930's) and I was asked to put a photo up of it, but I never did.

So here it is, a 1930's North Melbourne playing jumper as worn by my Little Pa back in the day.

Sorry, it's framed and in an odd spot, so I couldn't quite get a decent photo without glare, but this is the best I could do.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

This may also be of interest to Mero given the 4 stripes on the back of it, and as far as i know, 4 on the front.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

Born 1919 + 18 years to play the 18's comp would be 1937.

I've quoted Mero in this because he runs the footy jumpers website, and this kind of jumper is not shown, which means there's a gap in his timeline.
I can guarantee you that the footy jumpers website doesn't have 100% accuracy from each clubs history, especially from that long back, so you can really only use it as a guide.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

When's it from, then? Is it a fake? Is it one of those woollen classics the AFL are selling now?

 

[Klim]

the jumper in this picture you say is 80+ years old,over time wool does not stay the same colour,white wool yellows over the years and this does not seem to be in this time frame,i have been collecting over 20 years and doubt that this is a 1930s jumper

 

[Bryce_Jersey17]

the jumper in this picture you say is 80+ years old,over time wool does not stay the same colour,white wool yellows over the years and this does not seem to be in this time frame,i have been collecting over 20 years and doubt that this is a 1930s jumper

The photo taken isn't the best quality, no offence to NM_Mitchell. It's entirely possible that there is yellowing in the wool that hasn't been picked up properly, plus lighting and glare from light sources that will distort the photo

 

[Gibbsy]

this would be a 1960s jumper and is in too good of condition to be a 1930s

So we're supposed to take your word against that of a guy who owns it, knows the original owner, was related to the original owner, has seen it in the flesh.... okay

 

[Bryce_Jersey17]

this would be a 1960s jumper and is in too good of condition to be a 1930s

Ok, to use footyjumpers as proof, as you insisted earlier, then it cant be. In the 60's, there were pinstripes on each stripe plus a number panel.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

this would be a 1960s jumper and is in too good of condition to be a 1930s

I can guarantee my Great Grandfather wasn't playing 18's football in the 1960's

 

[SwampCreature]

You guys should meet, fight, video it and post it to BigFooty

 

[Mero]

North jumpers in 1935 looked like this:
http://www.boylesfootballphotos.net.au/dl687?display&x=700&y=525

And this in 1945:
http://www.boylesfootballphotos.net.au/dl10436?display

The 1947 Reserves team shows a few different styles of Blue and White stripes:
http://www.boylesfootballphotos.net.au/linked_images/other/slv_boyles/122_049_resize.jpg
Some have Blue sleeves, some hooped.

Therefore I'd say there's no reason to doubt the jumper wasn't from a Reserves team.
All senior pics I've ever seen have the club wearing White number panels on the back of jumpers, so I wouldn't commit to saying it was a Seniors jumper, but you're not suggesting that, as far as I can tell.
(U19s com started in 1947, so it's not that)

As far as dating it, that's something I wouldn't commit to unless I had a better look at the jumper.
I would agree that it is in really, really good shape if it is 80 year old.
And honestly, the number worries me. It looks like the American style numbers, which wouldn't have made it to Australia until late WW2.
Most numbers I've seen are Helvetica based, in various sizes, with the odd script style numbers in the 1920s.

 

[Mero]

Well, to clarify, I'm not saying one way or the other whether it is a late 1930's North reserves jumper.
I'd want to have a better look at it before committing to that.

 

[Mero]

on his photo,the white stripe is in the middle of guernsey,your photo,s which are correct have a blue stripe
in middle of guernsey

a. That's the Seniors, the Reserves team jumper could have been any combination of Blue & White stripes
b. It's from different seasons. 1935 & 1945 are the only Seniors pics available, and 1947 for the Twos.
c. I'd probably lean toward it being a later version of the jumper, but I could not say definitively either way.

 

[Mero]

the number 8 does not seem right for this era

Agree. I would say 1942 at the very earliest.
But possibly the jumper is the same and the number was added later.

 

[Gibbsy]

yes mate its a fake and you should remove it from your site,you have embarrased yourself

You've gotta be kidding right? It's his dead great-grandfather's jumper, he can post it wherever he likes!

give yourself an uppercut

 

[NM_Mitchell]

North jumpers in 1935 looked like this:
http://www.boylesfootballphotos.net.au/dl687?display&x=700&y=525

And this in 1945:
http://www.boylesfootballphotos.net.au/dl10436?display

The 1947 Reserves team shows a few different styles of Blue and White stripes:
http://www.boylesfootballphotos.net.au/linked_images/other/slv_boyles/122_049_resize.jpg
Some have Blue sleeves, some hooped.

Therefore I'd say there's no reason to doubt the jumper wasn't from a Reserves team.

So, on that, do you know if maybe the club supplied the jumpers to players in the Seniors for uniformity or a new jumper for a gift on debut or some other reason, but reserves or whatever would have to source their own, explaining the differences between each player?

All senior pics I've ever seen have the club wearing White number panels on the back of jumpers, so I wouldn't commit to saying it was a Seniors jumper, but you're not suggesting that, as far as I can tell.

Nup, never played Senior footy for North.

As far as dating it, that's something I wouldn't commit to unless I had a better look at the jumper.
I would agree that it is in really, really good shape if it is 80 year old.
And honestly, the number worries me. It looks like the American style numbers, which wouldn't have made it to Australia until late WW2.
Most numbers I've seen are Helvetica based, in various sizes, with the odd script style numbers in the 1920s.

So, it's still not inconceivable that maybe someone in Australia came up with that kind of font, or an American import in the clothing industry brought it over with them? Not ruling out that maybe at some point later on he's had it re-stitched on?

 

[NM_Mitchell]

the number 8 does not seem right for this era

Look mate, I can't physically prove that it is the jumper that I'm claiming it is, all I can give you is my word that this is what I say it is.
If you can find a way to show me every North Melbourne reserves jumper that was worn around this time, then I'll believe you that it's not.

So, let's quit derailing the thread, and call it a nil-all draw.

 

[Red Crow]

C'mon NM_Mitchell mate, the jig is up. Your late great grandpappy was quite clearly a pioneer in the fake footy jumper business. No need to keep this charade going any longer!

Quite seriously though, that is a tremendous piece to have in your family. And its even better that you are someone who has an appreciation of footy jumpers in general beyond that of most people.

 

[NM_Mitchell]

C'mon NM_Mitchell mate, the jig is up. Your late great grandpappy was quite clearly a pioneer in the fake footy jumper business. No need to keep this charade going any longer!

Quite seriously though, that is a tremendous piece to have in your family. And its even better that you are someone who has an appreciation of footy jumpers in general beyond that of most people.

Aaargh, you got me, he actually played for the Essendon reserves...

Cheers, it is pretty cool, shattered I only found out about him playing after he passed, could have a some good chats about the club back in the day, maybe that jumper would have made its way to my room instead of on a wall. I'm going to have to have some words with my grandparents to ensure I inherit it.

 

[Mero]

So, on that, do you know if maybe the club supplied the jumpers to players in the Seniors for uniformity or a new jumper for a gift on debut or some other reason, but reserves or whatever would have to source their own, explaining the differences between each player?

I would say the club provided them, however the design may have changed from year to year, and yet, players might have played in multiple years, in the same jumper. So one guy's in a 1935, someone else in a 1936 and someone else in a 1937, and they might all have slight differences.

So, it's still not inconceivable that maybe someone in Australia came up with that kind of font, or an American import in the clothing industry brought it over with them? Not ruling out that maybe at some point later on he's had it re-stitched on?

Absolutely.
That's why I wouldn't commit to dating it.
However, as mentioned, I have done a bit of research into things like number fonts over the last 20 years and I've never seen that font on a footy jumper from the 1930s.
Granted, I've really only been looking for pics of Seniors teams, and realistically, there aren't many Reserves pics to go on.

 

[Storm20]

I have been collecting over 20 years and doubt that this is a 1930s jumper

Get your dicks out boys. Tape measure has arrived

 

[hansie]

THATS A BIT HARD IM FEMALE

That's why your profile says you're a bloke. And why the need to shout?

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