Opinion What unpopular AFL opinions do you have? - Part 2

[Pistol Night]

well put. we, the people have no common sense, while the malevolent leaders are loaded with it!

I reckon next year we start at round 23 and have an AFL fixture countdown like NYE hosted by Daryl Sommers

 

[Underarm]

I’m ignoring the whole round zero farce. Can’t imagine it will continue in the long run

Byes in every round of the season will be a thing when Tasmania enter in 2028.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

I reckon next year we start at round 23 and have an AFL fixture countdown like NYE hosted by Daryl Sommers

Great idea.

The other suggestion I have too is that I've noticed a lot of teams tend to drop away during the last quarter.

So why don't we play the last quarter first, and then do the first, second and premiership quarters after that?

 

[Pistol Night]

Great idea.

The other suggestion I have too is that I've noticed a lot of teams tend to drop away during the last quarter.

So why don't we play the last quarter first, and then do the first, second and premiership quarters after that?

Do the warm up after the game and sing the song and have a few beers before the game. Write these down Dil

 

[Pistol Night]

Byes in every round of the season will be a thing when Tasmania enter in 2028.

They might be having a bye too if they haven't got a stadium

 

[Mr Meow]

The last 5 ideas have probably been the best of the thread.

 

[Pistol Night]

The last 5 ideas have probably been the best of the thread.

**** me. How shit are the other ideas?

 

[mchal4]

International Rules > Aussie Rules ( skills are better with the round ball )

 

[RUNVS]

Not sure if this is unpopular or not but I wish in the team stats instead of highlighting disposals, instead only effective disposals are highlighted. I don't care if a player has 35 disposals if only 18 of those actually went to a teammate.

It should be the 18 highlighted, not the 35.

 

[Soggy2112]

Not sure if this is unpopular or not but I wish in the team stats instead of highlighting disposals, instead only effective disposals are highlighted. I don't care if a player has 35 disposals if only 18 of those actually went to a teammate.

It should be the 18 highlighted, not the 35.

Only problem is the “effective disposals” stat is also very flawed.

Take Rory Laird on Saturday, he had 23 disposals at 100%. In part because he takes the safe option most of the time.

Josh Worrell had 14 effective disposals. But clearly Worrell had more impact on the game.

Any stat needs to be looked at in context, and no stat is a perfect indicator. It’s still very relevant to know how many times someone touched the ball, especially as no matter how tactical footy gets, the most important skill will always be being able to win the ball.

 

[Mr Meow]

Only problem is the “effective disposals” stat is also very flawed.

Take Rory Laird on Saturday, he had 23 disposals at 100%. In part because he takes the safe option most of the time.

Josh Worrell had 14 effective disposals. But clearly Worrell had more impact on the game.

Any stat needs to be looked at in context, and no stat is a perfect indicator. It’s still very relevant to know how many times someone touched the ball, especially as no matter how tactical footy gets, the most important skill will always be being able to win the ball.

Agreed. They need some sort of damage factor or degree of difficulty assigned. Score involvements are handy but again it's just one small slice, that in isolation is also a flawed stat.

Unfortunately you kind of need to use the eye test to determine the balance of disposal effectiveness, risk and damage against how often players contribute to ineffective plays. There's no stat or combination of stats that can give you a quantitative readout on that complex picture.

 

[RUNVS]

Only problem is the “effective disposals” stat is also very flawed.

Take Rory Laird on Saturday, he had 23 disposals at 100%. In part because he takes the safe option most of the time.

Josh Worrell had 14 effective disposals. But clearly Worrell had more impact on the game.

Any stat needs to be looked at in context, and no stat is a perfect indicator. It’s still very relevant to know how many times someone touched the ball, especially as no matter how tactical footy gets, the most important skill will always be being able to win the ball.

To me the best stat would be "effective metres gained" as that would stop the players who play it safe too, and the stat would definitely be possible given both effective disposals and metres gained are counted, but not in that way at the moment.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Not sure if this is unpopular or not but I wish in the team stats instead of highlighting disposals, instead only effective disposals are highlighted. I don't care if a player has 35 disposals if only 18 of those actually went to a teammate.

It should be the 18 highlighted, not the 35.

Disposal Efficiency and Metres Gained do an okay job at this.

If someone gets a bunch of scrub handballs or sideways nothing kicks, you can easily see it from those stats.

 

[KissKiss]

To me the best stat would be "effective metres gained" as that would stop the players who play it safe too, and the stat would definitely be possible given both effective disposals and metres gained are counted, but not in that way at the moment.

I always add assisted effective metres gained to that as well. I dont care if my inside mid has negative metres gained if it has gone back and outside to a great user (Gulden, McCluggage, Daicos, etc) who drives the ball forward way more effectively. While ultimately going forward is great, its still just as important to put it in the best spot to go forward than a kick 50m down the line to a contest (which is still counted as effective)

 

[MisterMarcus]

Seeing Essendon v Adelaide at the MCG made me think that the AFL should introduce one neutral games a week at the G, like for the old Waverley.

Interstate and even the smaller Marvel clubs complain about lack of MCG experience and exposure. But to give them more away games at the G, it just benefits the existing MCG tenants by gifting them more home games.

Having neutral games would get around this problem. It gives both teams exposure without distorting the fixture to favour the home MCG teams.

 

[Cuzz09]

Is Essendon home ground Marvel or MCG?

why play there?

guess nowhere else

Sent from my SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[peetoo]

Seeing Essendon v Adelaide at the MCG made me think that the AFL should introduce one neutral games a week at the G, like for the old Waverley.

Interstate and even the smaller Marvel clubs complain about lack of MCG experience and exposure. But to give them more away games at the G, it just benefits the existing MCG tenants by gifting them more home games.

Having neutral games would get around this problem. It gives both teams exposure without distorting the fixture to favour the home MCG teams.

Is hawthorn v brisbane or west coast at marvel ‘neutral’? It’s also depriving those teams of mcg games

 

[peetoo]

Is Essendon home ground Marvel or MCG?

why play there?

guess nowhere else

Sent from my SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

Essendon were an MCG tenant but moved to marvel for $$$ and being able to have a very one sided crowd.

Now they are not so sure a as only 2 marvel tenants have won a flag since (Essendon and Bulldogs)

 

[Andyy]

I want teams to play each opponent either once or twice - don't like the current arrangement where the fixture has two games between certain sides. To achieve this it's easy to do one match each, or to accomplish two games I would consider shortening quarters to 18m + time on, cut all the byes, cut the preseason matches, cut the pre-finals week off etc.
No reason why you should expect all players to play 30+ games/year - need to encourage more players/list to be used.

I also don't think there's enough realised talent for 18 professional teams (soon to be 19) and would rather we fold a three clubs to bring in Tasmania as the 16th club so that all teams get more good/established players and the skill level average goes up.

 

[Iceman!]

Agreed. They need some sort of damage factor or degree of difficulty assigned. Score involvements are handy but again it's just one small slice, that in isolation is also a flawed stat.

Unfortunately you kind of need to use the eye test to determine the balance of disposal effectiveness, risk and damage against how often players contribute to ineffective plays. There's no stat or combination of stats that can give you a quantitative readout on that complex picture.

The stat isn't the issue, it is the people who are incapable of using them properly.

Disposals, efficiency, meters gained, score involvement, goal assists goals can all be flawed stats and it is why you shouldn't just look at any one.

They should simply be a tool to help assess a game along with the eye test.

 

[Mr Meow]

The stat isn't the issue, it is the people who are incapable of using them properly.

Disposals, efficiency, meters gained, score involvement, goal assists goals can all be flawed stats and it is why you shouldn't just look at any one.

They should simply be a tool to help assess a game along with the eye test.

True, but what I'm saying is that even if you add every single statistic and try to add context, it's still difficult to show purely by numbers who is the best ball user. It's much easier to show who accumulates more footy and from what source.

 

[jannissary]

Seeing Essendon v Adelaide at the MCG made me think that the AFL should introduce one neutral games a week at the G, like for the old Waverley.

Interstate and even the smaller Marvel clubs complain about lack of MCG experience and exposure. But to give them more away games at the G, it just benefits the existing MCG tenants by gifting them more home games.

Having neutral games would get around this problem. It gives both teams exposure without distorting the fixture to favour the home MCG teams.

essendon isn't a tenent at the g, haven't been for a while

 

[Billy ray]

i'd support that

Games played at the MCG

Daniel Rioli 102
John Noble 59
Gold Coast SUNS 18

 

[nahnah]

You should be allowed to run from a kick out as far as you like without bouncing the ball because they never call it anyways and would feel harsh to randomly ping a player in a final for it

 

[Cuzz09]

This 15m play on crap just make anything from a boot a mark even if it's 1m lol

Sent from my SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app