What would a Dutton Liberal leadership mean for the Liberals and the country?

[FIGJAM]

Where did that graphic come from?. There are only 3 countries doing better than us right now.

https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/household-disposable-income.html

I wish I had almost $1,300 per week in disposable income! Most people that I speak to are more in line with the Fin Review graph living pay to pay despite healthy gross incomes.

Dutton's current push to reinstate the requirement for councils to hold citizenship ceremonies is very ill-advised in my view. He needs to have 'read the room' with the seats that were lost to Teals especially, who also voted in favour of The Voice. People in many inner-metro areas might still be economically conservative, but are more progressive socially.

 

[Gough]

I wish I had almost $1,300 per week in disposable income! Most people that I speak to are more in line with the Fin Review graph living pay to pay despite healthy gross incomes.

Dutton's current push to reinstate the requirement for councils to hold citizenship ceremonies is very ill-advised in my view. He needs to have 'read the room' with the seats that were lost to Teals especially, who also voted in favour of The Voice. People in many inner-metro areas might still be economically conservative, but are more progressive socially.

Dutton has nothing but culture wars.

 

[Skeppersap]

Dutton has nothing but culture wars.

Dutton doesn't need to have any more he is in opposition.

It is very similar to how Albanese got in power.... Let the other guy be so shit that he will lose of his own accord.

And Albanese had been doing that for him perfectly for 3 years now.

 

[Skeppersap]

Where did that graphic come from?. There are only 3 countries doing better than us right now.

https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/household-disposable-income.html

Third best???? Third highest maybe, but it needs to be compared to how expensive things are if comparing countries..... Fairly certain that basic fruit and veg and other essentials would be cheaper in Latvia than they are in Luxembourg.

The graph I posted demonstrates trends over time, and shows how Australia has tracked over the years, and how obvious it is that quality of life has been severely impacted in Australia by the Albanese government.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Dutton doesn't need to have any more he is in opposition.

It is very similar to how Albanese got in power.... Let the other guy be so shit that he will lose of his own accord.

And Albanese had been doing that for him perfectly for 3 years now.

It's a long bow to compare Albanese's solid governance but disappointing public performance with the walking cluster**** that was Scott Morrison.

 

[Gough]

Dutton doesn't need to have any more he is in opposition.

It is very similar to how Albanese got in power.... Let the other guy be so shit that he will lose of his own accord.

And Albanese had been doing that for him perfectly for 3 years now.

Labor released rafts of policy in opposition arguably to their own detriment. An alternative government should be able to tell us what they'll do in government and Dutton is failing miserably there.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I still think nuclear is a big problem for Dutton given how many seats he needs to win. He's saying he wants to cut spending but also wants to go and build 7 nuclear reactors. It just seems like an insane policy and a ludicrous waste of money. I just don't see how he gets the landslide he needs behind that policy especially when he needs teal seats.

Liberal arch cynic Christopher Pyne penned a devastating take in the Nine papers recently, saying Dutton has no intention whatsoever of actually implementing nuclear.

All the more reason for the voters of Australia to give him the mother of all beltings at the ballot box.

 

[beside the seaside]

Liberal arch cynic Christopher Pyne penned a devastating take in the Nine papers recently, saying Dutton has no intention whatsoever of actually implementing nuclear.

All the more reason for the voters of Australia to give him the mother of all beltings at the ballot box.

That's exactly it. If he has no intention of doing it then he's a liar, if he intends to do it then he's reckless.

I don't get the policy at all but they must think it's a winner.

 

[Saint]

Where did that graphic come from?. There are only 3 countries doing better than us right now.

https://www.oecd.org/en/data/indicators/household-disposable-income.html

That's not right now, that's 2023. Australia's Disposable income has been plummeting, and it happened later than others'.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

That's exactly it. If he has no intention of doing it then he's a liar, if he intends to do it then he's reckless.

I don't get the policy at all but they must think it's a winner.

Worrying times, that it’s even come to this.

 

[Saint]

Dutton doesn't need to have any more he is in opposition.

It is very similar to how Albanese got in power.... Let the other guy be so shit that he will lose of his own accord.

And Albanese had been doing that for him perfectly for 3 years now.

Problem for Dutton is that he was in the thick of the last Govt which was worse and when the disposable income started plummeting. The ALP haven't done enough to undo the damage of the Libs, but it doesn't mean going back to the Libs is a good idea.

So Dutton has to try to make a point of being different to Morrison, it's still fresh enough in our memories.

As for Nuclear, I don't think even the majority of people who intend on voting for him think it will happen. They just want more coal for longer. And the coal station owners will negotiate a big payout for their ultra-contaminated sites which the LNP will put the taxpayers on the hook for, instead of their coal-station owning buddies who are funding the nuclear movement.

 

[FIGJAM]

Labor released rafts of policy in opposition arguably to their own detriment.

Not until late in the campaign and Albo sure as **** didn't push for a billion changes at once like Shorten did, which inexplicably made ScoMo look like a political wizard in 2019!

Dutton now could conceivably STFU about his right wing "compulsory citizenship ceremonies" and then dump it on councils post election. For mine, he's not reading the room ala. Shorten. It's not quite along the lines of Abbot knighting Prince Phillip, but it's got that flavour.

As a centrist, my current ideal is to see Albo given a second term, Dutton ****ed off as oppo leader, but also with a healthier opposition (rather than the supposed "independents" having so much clout).

 

[peetoo]

That's not right now, that's 2023. Australia's Disposable income has been plummeting, and it happened later than others'.

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I reckon at least 60% is corporate gouging. But as long as they are selling Australia Day tat, it seems aok

 

[Golden_6]

That's not right now, that's 2023. Australia's Disposable income has been plummeting, and it happened later than others'.

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I feel like this would be directly linked to the property prices in Australia and how high our mortgages are compared to other countries. A standard $600k home loan (which is normal) would have risen by at least $400 per week.

 

[Saint]

I feel like this would be directly linked to the property prices in Australia and how high our mortgages are compared to other countries. A standard $600k home loan (which is normal) would have risen by at least $400 per week.

And the structure the LNP had set up to deliberately suppress wages.

 

[Festerz]

Well, well, well, what do we have here?

That post has been deleted and for good reason.

 

[nut]

And the structure the LNP had set up to deliberately suppress wages.

And the LNP relaxing banking lending rules in the middle of a pandemic whilst interest rates were at an all time low allowing borrows to create mortgages they would never normally be able to be issued..
whilst printing more money in history…. Creating 7% inflation.


“The changes will remove the burden on banks to ensure people do not take out loans they cannot afford”

The Government wants to make it easier for you to get a mortgage amid the coronavirus recession — but there's a catch - ABC News

amp.abc.net.au

F$&king criminal… but here we are … it’s all Albo’s fault.

 

[carltonchelsea]

Dutton doesn't need to have any more he is in opposition.

It is very similar to how Albanese got in power.... Let the other guy be so shit that he will lose of his own accord.

And Albanese had been doing that for him perfectly for 3 years now.

BS.
Earned back the trust of the South Pacific nations, got the Chinese trade deals back on track, which Dutton is personally responsible for costing many industries billions, two surpluses etc etc
You’re so out of touch with reality it’s both laughable and concerning, respectfully of course!

 

[E Shed]

Next punch down target of division identified.

 

[Deliverance]

Third best???? Third highest maybe, but it needs to be compared to how expensive things are if comparing countries..... Fairly certain that basic fruit and veg and other essentials would be cheaper in Latvia than they are in Luxembourg.

The graph I posted demonstrates trends over time, and shows how Australia has tracked over the years, and how obvious it is that quality of life has been severely impacted in Australia by the Albanese government.

Yes but the graph you posted has Aus well below the oecd average. We're not. That's why I was wondering where it came from.

 

[peetoo]

Next punch down target of division identified.

At least we’re not in parliament with the tedious repetitive Lord’s Prayer

 

[Hojuman]

Hockey weighing in with " Albo should invite Donald to Aus."

Before the election Joe ? That suit your purposes ?

 

[Deliverance]

That's not right now, that's 2023. Australia's Disposable income has been plummeting, and it happened later than others'.

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Whst website is that?

 

[Skeppersap]

Yes but the graph you posted has Aus well below the oecd average. We're not. That's why I was wondering where it came from.

That is not what the graph is showing. It is setting both Australia and oecd to 100 in 2007, and then comparing trends since then. As was the purpose of my original post when showing the graph, it demonstrates that under Labor disposable income has started to drop, and continues to drop, which does not reflect the trend in the oecd.

Forget other macroeconomic KPIs like interest rates etc, this is the key kpi that shows how much Australian households are hurting under the current government, and why rubbish like the divisive voice referendum was and is so comprehensively derided by the majority.

Deal with issues that affect the majority of Australian citizens like cost of living, instead of minority policies like the referendum. Because the disposable income graph shows that Labor have absolutely no control.

Voters should be aware of this.

 

[Deliverance]

That is not what the graph is showing. It is setting both Australia and oecd to 100 in 2007, and then comparing trends since then. As was the purpose of my original post when showing the graph, it demonstrates that under Labor disposable income has started to drop, and continues to drop, which does not reflect the trend in the oecd.

Forget other macroeconomic KPIs like interest rates etc, this is the key kpi that shows how much Australian households are hurting under the current government, and why rubbish like the divisive voice referendum was and is so comprehensively derided by the majority.

Deal with issues that affect the majority of Australian citizens like cost of living, instead of minority policies like the referendum. Because the disposable income graph shows that Labor have absolutely no control.

Voters should be aware of this.

Why 2007? Point in time shows we are currently very well off. What's the source of the graph? How does it look of you set it to 1990 or 2015?